What Is the Defense Strategy #2

[thumbtack]

How does the computer searches of neck-breaking fit into the accidental death scenario?

 

[Anais]

I guess if the DT is going after both CA and GA in opening statements, and plans on putting ICA on the stand, we will then see the SA put George and Cindy back up on the stand to rebut ICA's statements, because the SA isn't going to let those statements just lie there.

This is going to be very tough on the Anthony's and very interesting for us to watch - and if that isn't an understatement, I don't know what is...:innocent:

LG ITA. I also believe there will be a few other witnesses they will be able to use for rebuttal and impeachment of such claims! Rough days ahead for all of the A's!

 

[niaa]

I think the only way out for KC is to take the stand and make up an accidental death scenario. For some, the chloroform and the duct tape will be hard to explain away. She could say that she did search online about chloroform, made some and stored it in the trunk of her car. At some time, maybe after storming out after the big fight with CA, Caylee was asleep in the car while she was parked and stood outside talking to TL on her cell. When she got back into the car she realized that the chloroform had spilled in the trunk and killed Caylee. This would explain her fear since she just had the fight with CA and since the chloroform was illegal for her to make and have. The stalling and her lies was an attempt to buy time so the chloroform wouldn't be detectable in Caylee's body. She feared her parents and LE so she staged a kidnapping with the duct tape. She didn't admit it to detectives when they begged her to since she thought they could still detect the chloroform. She knew she didn't intend to kill her and feared she would go to prison for life if she admitted that Caylee died from chloroform poisoning.

In the very least, this could be enough doubt to save her from the death penalty. At best, the story would be believed and she would get manslaughter since her intent was never to harm Caylee. I have to add that I don't think this is what happened. But, from a defense standpoint, this is the only accident I can think of that explains the huge amount of chloroform in her trunk and her prior searches along with why she would want to cover up what had happened.

I think this is what she SHOULD do, but I doubt she will.
She'll stick to the Nanny story, she had nothing to do with any of this, she just was too scared of GA and CA to tell them her daughter was missing. I don't think it will work and she will be convicted. DP Hmmmm. maybe not. No direct evidence to convince 7 of the 12.

 

[Solace]

From what Finnell listed as mitigationg circumstanes some of which were (sexual abuse, used as a scapegoat), I am going to say that the defense is going to use George Anthony and say KC was a victim of this on that very morning. They have to come up with something - this crime is too outrageous. However, I think they are taking a chance with this because George could easily come back for the State if they do this. I really don't know what else they could say - the child is obviously dead; the last person(s) who saw her were KC and George. They have to have something big to catch the jury. Although I doubt this will work, once all the evidence is in. But I can see the defense doing this.

 

[KDB]

I would LOVE for ICA to take the stand but I don't think that will happen... the SA will RIP.HER.TO.SHREDS!!!!! I think her true self would become very obvious at that point.

 

[Solace]

I think this is what she SHOULD do, but I doubt she will.
She'll stick to the Nanny story, she had nothing to do with any of this, she just was too scared of GA and CA to tell them her daughter was missing. I don't think it will work and she will be convicted. DP Hmmmm. maybe not. No direct evidence to convince 7 of the 12.

She is not going to stick with the Nannie story because the last 48 hours had Linday K. Boden saying the Nannie was fiction. She is an ex lawyer of hers and there is no way she would go on national TV and say this if it were not something that was discussed with Baez and Cheney.

 

[Solace]

Experts predict prosecution, defense strategies for Anthony trial
May 21, 2011|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel

Blame it on the nanny. Blame it on the meter reader. Blame Caylee Marie's disappearance and death on someone, anyone other than her mother.

In the nearly three years it took to get here — opening statements in Casey Anthony's trial are scheduled for Tuesday — various defense theories briefly captured our attention and then fizzled.

Now that the guilt phase of her trial is at hand, the legal experts who have watched this case carefully and know it best say she has few defense options remaining.

The prevailing thought is that her defense team will continue to point the finger in another direction — this time at her family and, particularly, Casey's father, George Anthony.

One of the more provocative takes on that approach comes from Mark NeJame, who at different times has represented George and Cindy Anthony and the search group that looked for Caylee's remains nearly three years ago.

NeJame envisions Casey Anthony taking the witness stand and explaining the "accidental death" of her daughter. She then might attribute her lies, her actions and her failure to report the child's death to fear of her father, according to the prominent Orlando attorney.

"They will develop a story in which she maintains that she lied and covered up an accidental death for fear of some sort of physical response from her father, as untruthful as that might be," NeJame said. "To me it's inescapable that that's the direction they're heading in. It's still fraught with land mines, but that's still their best defense."

It's pretty apparent the defense will direct blame at George Anthony, NeJame and others say, by reading the "tea leaves" of this case:

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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_1_george-anthony-cindy-anthony-defense-team

I agree with NeJame EXCEPT I am shocked that even he would say KC will take the stand. She will be proved to be a liar and a murderer in five mintues with Ashton asking her questions. No way will she take the stand. She is not good enough to do it. This is not KC going up against Cindy; it would be KC going up against Ashton. Who do you think would win and how long would it take?

 

[Tipstaff]

From what Finnell listed as mitigationg circumstanes some of which were (sexual abuse, used as a scapegoat), I am going to say that the defense is going to use George Anthony and say KC was a victim of this on that very morning. They have to come up with something - this crime is too outrageous. However, I think they are taking a chance with this because George could easily come back for the State if they do this. I really don't know what else they could say - the child is obviously dead; the last person(s) who saw her were KC and George. They have to have something big to catch the jury. Although I doubt this will work, once all the evidence is in. But I can see the defense doing this.

Defense will us GA's attempted suicide as evidence of his guilt if this is the route they take. I concur rough days ahead for all the A's.

Also makes me wonder if GA will be able to sustain throughout the trial.

 

[Solace]

Defense will us GA's attempted suicide as evidence of his guilt if this is the route they take. I concur rough days ahead for all the A's.

Also makes me wonder if GA will be able to sustain throughout the trial.

Yup Tip. Cindy will go alonog with defense (I think); because she wants to save KC and believe that she is innocent to absolve herself of any guilt, imo. But George - he is so weak to begin with that he is just going to fall apart under this pressure.

 

[logicalgirl]

Yup Tip. Cindy will go alonog with defense (I think); because she wants to save KC and believe that she is innocent to absolve herself of any guilt, imo. But George - he is so weak to begin with that he is just going to fall apart under this pressure.

I don't know about that - listening to Finnell reeling out what she may be trying during mitigation, it seemed to me that the bus rolling towards CA was just as big as the one rolling towards George. I don't see CA standing up to direct accusations from the DT accusing her of gross misconduct to ICA. I just cannot picture that at all.

 

[Marina2]

How does the computer searches of neck-breaking fit into the accidental death scenario?

They don't have to relate it to an accidental death scenario.
The DT will put forth a reasonable explanation of these searches. KC was a young, petite, relatively attractive woman who often went out alone. It's reasonable to think she would search for ways to defend herself if ever in a situation that she needs to. Neck breaking and household weapons are ways she could defend herself. This is a reasonable theory so the jury will have to consider it and, I believe, won't be allowed to use those searches to support a premeditated murder conviction. Juries don't always follow jury instruction though.

 

[Solace]

I don't know about that - listening to Finnell reeling out what she may be trying during mitigation, it seemed to me that the bus rolling towards CA was just as big as the one rolling towards George. I don't see CA standing up to direct accusations from the DT accusing her of gross misconduct to ICA. I just cannot picture that at all.

It appears to be, but I am going to say they are going to go for George all the way and they will say that Cindy just did not listen to her daughter because it was to horrific to admit and I can see Cindy going along with that saying "I just don't know" and that is all she has to say. Cindy is out to save KC no matter what, imo. She already has done this with George. Remember, in the beginning he said to Cindy when KC was out on bail - I can't live like this. And he was told to leave the house for a while by Cindy.

Cindy wants to believe this was an accident so she can be absolved of any guilt because she knows she dropped the ball in letting KC watch Caylee - she described KC as a sociopath to Ryan Paisley. But she never expected this to happen and it did and she is in self-preservation mode, imo.

 

[Tipstaff]

I don't know about that - listening to Finnell reeling out what she may be trying during mitigation, it seemed to me that the bus rolling towards CA was just as big as the one rolling towards George. I don't see CA standing up to direct accusations from the DT accusing her of gross misconduct to ICA. I just cannot picture that at all.

You are so right on regarding CA.

IF George is guilty of the behavior alleged I have no sympathy for him.

As for CA she has always put me over the edge in disgust per her behavior and I have had the opinion that CA is the impetus for the dysfunction in the A family. None of her actions or behavior from the beginning of this ordeal to the present have made me think otherwise.

 

[niaa]

They don't have to relate it to an accidental death scenario.
The DT will put forth a reasonable explanation of these searches. KC was a young, petite, relatively attractive woman who often went out alone. It's reasonable to think she would search for ways to defend herself if ever in a situation that she needs to. Neck breaking and household weapons are ways she could defend herself. This is a reasonable theory so the jury will have to consider it and, I believe, won't be allowed to use those searches to support a premeditated murder conviction. Juries don't always follow jury instruction though.

This is probably a question for the attorney thread, but if the jury debates and discusses evidence or DT opening, closing arguments, and considers these facts against the judges instructions, won't that be an appeal and most likely a mistrial. Jurors always talk afterward, eventually.

 

[Tulessa]

Does anyone have a complete list of the 600+ witnesses that were subpoenaed? TIA

 

[Tipstaff]

It appears to be, but I am going to say they are going to go for George all the way and they will say that Cindy just did not listen to her daughter because it was to horrific to admit and I can see Cindy going along with that saying "I just don't know" and that is all she has to say. Cindy is out to save KC no matter what, imo. She already has done this with George. Remember, in the beginning he said to Cindy when KC was out on bail - I can't live like this. And he was told to leave the house for a while by Cindy.

Cindy wants to believe this was an accident so she can be absolved of any guilt because she knows she dropped the ball in letting KC watch Caylee - she described KC as a sociopath to Ryan Paisley. But she never expected this to happen and it did and she is in self-preservation mode, imo.

Each and every life in this family has been/will be destroyed and a little girl murdered.

Like Laci Peterson's mom said 'divorce is always an option' and as many here have said 'adoption' should have been the option in this family. Sad and criminal!

 

[LCoastMom]

I agree with NeJame EXCEPT I am shocked that even he would say KC will take the stand. She will be proved to be a liar and a murderer in five mintues with Ashton asking her questions. No way will she take the stand. She is not good enough to do it. This is not KC going up against Cindy; it would be KC going up against Ashton. Who do you think would win and how long would it take?

If ICA is planning to take the stand it will be because she believes she is smarter than the SA and has no fear of what they will ask her / say to her on the stand.

This past week we saw Stacey Barker (dubbed Smother Mother by Nancy Grace) in CA do just this - the cases are similar enough (minus the drama in the press) to compare. Both single young moms who wanted to party with boys rather than caring for their toddlers (both had boyfriends who didn't want a ready made family). After fighting with their mothers, their babies went missing, both babies found discarded like garbage. Caylee found with duct tape wrapped around he little face. Emma Leigh found smothered.

Stacey took the stand and lied through her teeth, at one point actually yelling at the DDA!

Yep, I can see ICA doing the same. No conscience, no trouble lying.

 

[Solace]

If ICA is planning to take the stand it will be because she believes she is smarter than the SA and has no fear of what they will ask her / say to her on the stand.

This past week we saw Stacey Barker (dubbed Smother Mother by Nancy Grace) in CA do just this - the cases are similar enough (minus the drama in the press) to compare. Both single young moms who wanted to party with boys rather than caring for their toddlers (both had boyfriends who didn't want a ready made family). After fighting with their mothers, their babies went missing, both babies found discarded like garbage. Caylee found with duct tape wrapped around he little face. Emma Leigh found smothered.

Stacey took the stand and lied through her teeth, at one point actually yelling at the DDA!

Yep, I can see ICA doing the same. No conscious, no trouble lying.

Cheney Mason will never let her take the stand.

 

[Solace]

This is probably a question for the attorney thread, but if the jury debates and discusses evidence or DT opening, closing arguments, and considers these facts against the judges instructions, won't that be an appeal and most likely a mistrial. Jurors always talk afterward, eventually.

They already have an appeal in the works; if you notice Perry asked KC if she was okay with the proceedings that had taken place and she said "With Objection, yes". There is the appeal.

 

[2goldfish]

If ICA is planning to take the stand it will be because she believes she is smarter than the SA and has no fear of what they will ask her / say to her on the stand.

This past week we saw Stacey Barker (dubbed Smother Mother by Nancy Grace) in CA do just this - the cases are similar enough (minus the drama in the press) to compare. Both single young moms who wanted to party with boys rather than caring for their toddlers (both had boyfriends who didn't want a ready made family). After fighting with their mothers, their babies went missing, both babies found discarded like garbage. Caylee found with duct tape wrapped around he little face. Emma Leigh found smothered.

Stacey took the stand and lied through her teeth, at one point actually yelling at the DDA!

Yep, I can see ICA doing the same. No conscious, no trouble lying.

omg lcoastmom, I completely forgot about the trial! poor emma I feel so bad, her thread got moved from spotlight and I completely forgot to check, going to look right now, thanks for posting here - I cant believe that she took the stand!