BBM - I'm worried about the same thing....like...possible jury tampering. :saythat: (Kinda like the defense tried to do with the TES searchers :banghead:
It takes money to tamper with juries and do the Anthony's look like they have any? Come on.
BBM - I'm worried about the same thing....like...possible jury tampering. :saythat: (Kinda like the defense tried to do with the TES searchers :banghead:
I'm not talking about the Anthony's, I'm talking about the defense.It takes money to tamper with juries and do the Anthony's look like they have any? Come on.
"What she is doing for the two hours 4:30 to 6:30 is anyone's guess - driving around and then goes to Tony's. She is at blockbuster at 7:58. "
posted by Solace
I think this is going to be a key weakness in the defense's case. This is the crux of the entire case right here. Where exactly, was Caylee, @ 8 pm , when Casey was at Blockbuster with Tony?
If they are going to take Zanny off the table, then WHO had the child?
The defense needs to answer this one crucial question if they want to save their client. And I don't think they have an answer.
The only one they can attempt is that [SODDI] George took the baby, stashed her and then went to work. But that will not fly, imo.
But this means that Caylee had to have been in the trunk area when she was given the chloroform or KC was making it in the trunk area and it spilled. I don't know.
Anyone know when she backed the car into the house. I think it was after the 16th. I guess that is OT. Sorry
She backs up the car into garage on June 17th - neighbor saw her and said first time he ever saw her do this.
But she, imo, killed Caylee around 4 on June 16th - IMO.
I don't know when she dropped the chloroform or how she did it, but Caylee was in the trunk on the 16th - and KC was at blockbuster around 7 or so. So the deed was done by then.
Found this: Proably redundant, but can't help myself.
4:10 pm KC attempts to call Gentiva
4:11 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:11 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell. (24 seconds after last call)
4:13 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:13 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell. (25 seconds after last call)
4:14 pm KC calls Gentiva, 1.6 minute phone call.
KCs cell phone pings showed her at or near the Anthony home until 4:18. At 4:18 she tracked northward.
4:19 pm KC calls TL, 1 minute duration.
4:21 pm KC attempts to call JG.
4:21 pm KC calls JG, 1.25 minute duration. (24 seconds after last call)
4:25 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:25 pm KC cell phone pings show her tracking westward.
No activity on phone for 2 hours and 7 minutes. [NOTE: Up until this point KC has gone no more than about 30 minutes at a time not texting or calling some one.]
BB returns home at approximately 6 p.m. from a family vacation.
5:00 pm to midnight no activity on laptop.
5:57 pm KCs cell phone pings show her tracking northwestward.
6:31 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
6:32 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
6:32 pm KC attempts to call Anthony home. (44 seconds after last call)
6:33 pm KC checks voicemail.
6:53 pm KC checks voicemail.
7:06 pm KC calls Anthony home, 1.38 minute duration.
7:20 pm KC attempts to call AH
7:21 pm KC attempts to call AH.
7:58 pm TL and KC go to Blockbuster and rent a movie. TL states they stayed up late watching the movie.
I am going to say she was at the house around 3:30 (George worked from 3 to 12). There is no phone activity from 3:30 to 4:10 - then a flurry - I think she is at the house at that time and is concerned Cindy might be coming home - there is a panic of calls and she finally reaches her at 4:14. I think Caylee was dead at that time.
So she could have killed Caylee at the house in the garage around 3:30 and then left and drove around - started calling Cindy around 4:10 to make sure all was cool and talked to her around 4:15 for a minute and a half and then Jesse, then Tony.
What she is doing for the two hours 4:30 to 6:30 is anyone's guess - driving around and then goes to Tony's. She is at blockbuster at 7:58.
SOLACE: In my mind, I have thought the "face-taping & sticker" might have happened in the house, but the chloroform, feet and hands were done in the car close to the 4:30 time. ( this should be in the theory thread, i know) This, because I had thought the flurry of calls was to take one last ditch effort to find someone to take care of Caylee.
By 7PM for sure, Caylee was gone.
In terms of strategy, I agree with many up thread who don't think the defense has a solid strategy at this point, and with the most recent rulings, their options are really dwindling to nothing. With the concrete evidence of 31 days, duct tape, chloroform, and decomp in the car, they're toast.
I DO wonder why the defendant is smiling-under threat of the death penalty and having walked in from the pits of jail, I would find it very hard to smile at all, let alone giggle or laugh.
In my opinion, George and Cindy are hoping for being able to stay in the court room. I feel that it is possible for George to stand up and drop to his knees saying I am so sorry...blah blah I didn't mean to let you (meaning poor innocent Casey) take the blame for this!!
While Cindy grasps her chest, holds up her bible and yells the truth will set you free...While Lee rushes up to his father and holds his shoulder and says I still love you dad.
Or NOT...
IMHO this is because she is with her defense attorneys and being in court with them is better then being all alone in jail. Also if she is a sociopath and/or craves attention this would lend further support such a theory.
04/28/2011 Supplemental Defense Witness List
- Bernard Cassidy, Atty to Laura Buchanan - added 4/28/11
- Brian J. Carroll - FBI Lab Quantico, Virginia - added 4/28/11 [NOT on State Witness List]
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TUtZjkzOC00MjI2LWIxYTktOWYzNTkwNzE0YmZi&hl=en
2011.04.27 Defense Supplemental Witness List LB atty and FBI.pdf
Nancy Grace
Just in: Torpedo to the defense! Two psychiatrists previously dumped by tot moms defense team have now been added to the prosecutions witness list! What could they reveal about Casey Anthony?
ETA This was on FB so I didn't post the link.![]()
IMHO this is because she is with her defense attorneys and being in court with them is better then being all alone in jail. Also if she is a sociopath and/or craves attention this would lend further support such a theory.
But I thought that was out last week? Am I wrong. Do you know the names.
So what is the strategy of having Laura Buchanan's lawyer on the defense's witness list? And someone from Quantico too? Things that make you go hmmm...
I just wonder how and when ICA found out this devasting news (for her) and poetic justice for Caylee!
I wonder if the DT are telling ICA it's time to come clean..We can't help you any further until you decide to tell the Gawd awful truth into Caylee's demise!
I wonder if she's demanding her lead attorney go to the SAO's and foster a deal she can live with....of course, it's not her terms...I would be happy if JA/LDB/FG along with CJPB, Jr.s confirmation of going along with LWOP and must tell the truth about Caylee's death..and it must match up to the evidence at hand or no dice...
Wishful thinking on my part....but one must be careful what they wish for....for one wish got ICA His Honor, Cheif Justice Belvin Perry, Jr...isn't that grand! JMHO
Justice for Caylee
But this means that Caylee had to have been in the trunk area when she was given the chloroform or KC was making it in the trunk area and it spilled. I don't know.
Anyone know when she backed the car into the house. I think it was after the 16th. I guess that is OT. Sorry
She backs up the car into garage on June 17th - neighbor saw her and said first time he ever saw her do this.
But she, imo, killed Caylee around 4 on June 16th - IMO.
I don't know when she dropped the chloroform or how she did it, but Caylee was in the trunk on the 16th - and KC was at blockbuster around 7 or so. So the deed was done by then.
Found this: Proably redundant, but can't help myself.
4:10 pm KC attempts to call Gentiva
4:11 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:11 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell. (24 seconds after last call)
4:13 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:13 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell. (25 seconds after last call)
4:14 pm KC calls Gentiva, 1.6 minute phone call.
KCs cell phone pings showed her at or near the Anthony home until 4:18. At 4:18 she tracked northward.
4:19 pm KC calls TL, 1 minute duration.
4:21 pm KC attempts to call JG.
4:21 pm KC calls JG, 1.25 minute duration. (24 seconds after last call)
4:25 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
4:25 pm KC cell phone pings show her tracking westward.
No activity on phone for 2 hours and 7 minutes. [NOTE: Up until this point KC has gone no more than about 30 minutes at a time not texting or calling some one.]
BB returns home at approximately 6 p.m. from a family vacation.
5:00 pm to midnight no activity on laptop.
5:57 pm KCs cell phone pings show her tracking northwestward.
6:31 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
6:32 pm KC attempts to call CAs cell.
6:32 pm KC attempts to call Anthony home. (44 seconds after last call)
6:33 pm KC checks voicemail.
6:53 pm KC checks voicemail.
7:06 pm KC calls Anthony home, 1.38 minute duration.
7:20 pm KC attempts to call AH
7:21 pm KC attempts to call AH.
7:58 pm TL and KC go to Blockbuster and rent a movie. TL states they stayed up late watching the movie.
I am going to say she was at the house around 3:30 (George worked from 3 to 12). There is no phone activity from 3:30 to 4:10 - then a flurry - I think she is at the house at that time and is concerned Cindy might be coming home - there is a panic of calls and she finally reaches her at 4:14. I think Caylee was dead at that time.
So she could have killed Caylee at the house in the garage around 3:30 and then left and drove around - started calling Cindy around 4:10 to make sure all was cool and talked to her around 4:15 for a minute and a half and then Jesse, then Tony.
What she is doing for the two hours 4:30 to 6:30 is anyone's guess - driving around and then goes to Tony's. She is at blockbuster at 7:58.
SOLACE: In my mind, I have thought the "face-taping & sticker" might have happened in the house, but the chloroform, feet and hands were done in the car close to the 4:30 time. ( this should be in the theory thread, i know) This, because I had thought the flurry of calls was to take one last ditch effort to find someone to take care of Caylee.
By 7PM for sure, Caylee was gone.
In terms of strategy, I agree with many up thread who don't think the defense has a solid strategy at this point, and with the most recent rulings, their options are really dwindling to nothing. With the concrete evidence of 31 days, duct tape, chloroform, and decomp in the car, they're toast.