What Kind Of Defense for Casey in a trial?

[Dolphinmomcca]

My opinion only.......if a defense lawyer is THAT hard up, that hes going to go on a message board on the internet to find a defense then......well, enough said.

 

[mkath59]

I'm thinking that a legal team is pretty well trained - and they know (probably better than we do) what kind of "theories" will hold up to the scrutiny of the judge -- so I doubt they look for us to do their job.

 

[Spyglass]

I have no doubt this happens. Where do you think Casey came up with her "scripted" version of the story?! I mentioned several times that she and Lee sounded like they were reading a script on the jail calls. A couple of weeks or so later...we hear she has "changed her story" to include a script. LOL I guess it sounded good to her (and I may have been right about it being scripted then).

The defense team has been all over this forum. They are taking notes and injecting reasonable doubt theories to bounce them around. They eased off considerably when the "leaks" came out from the body farm and from the test results of the DNA. (My guess is they have help from some law school class and they had to regroup.)

The thing about WS is that it is popping up all over the internet and has drawn quite a few new members plus readership. A perfect place for them to come test drive things, imo. Not to mention, people are buying into it hook, line, and sinker...which means down the road...others on the jury could too. Something to keep in mind, but the evidence will speak for itself and I believe justice will prevail over their smokescreens.

Agree. Using forums as a focus groups to test drive possible defense explanations/stories.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

My opinion only.......if a defense lawyer is THAT hard up, that hes going to go on a message board on the internet to find a defense then......well, enough said.

LOL But look what he has to work with...'Nuff said.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Agree. Using forums as a focus groups to test drive possible defense explanations/stories.

As I said before, I think it is possible he is using a group of law students to bounce things around and keep reasonable doubt theories floating in cyberspace.

 

[pizmex]

If the defense is using websites for their upcoming case KC is in real trouble and she knows it....

Not necessarily. There are entire threads here devoted to the idea that Caylee is still alive. What if just one person with that mindset ends up on Casey's jury? Or two? Or three?

(On Edit) There is a poll-thread here asking whether Caylee is dead or alive. Ten percent of the participants think Caylee is alive. Accordingly, it would appear likely that at least one actual juror on Casey's trial would think that Caylee is alive. Of course, opinions may change as further evidence is made public.

OJ Simpson was acquited of murder. The evidence against Casey is minor compared to the damning evidence developed against OJ. Trials are unpredictable.

 

[Oakley]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

This has been a concern of mine too.

 

[Law_girl41]

Well I know a certain bounty hunter and *heart* getting thier info from here ,so why not Casey too...

*EHEM*

Well, *a select few* would know about that reveal of info, wouldnt they?
IMO, its getting rediculous watching these outlandish theories getting back to the A's without any viable proof or edvidence that supports those theories.
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This forum is suffering as a result of this. I can see it forming a hirarchy and its not fair to the owner & moderators of this site. I've heard privately from several members who wish nothing to do with participating any longer because of fear that it only adds to the owner stress and they see where this is going. I wont even clarify this any further, other than to say the majority is getting sensored contunually while the minority is permitted to run amuck on the threads with just about any nutty theory that pops into their heads.

 

[pizmex]

My opinion only.......if a defense lawyer is THAT hard up, that hes going to go on a message board on the internet to find a defense then......well, enough said.

I disagree. This web site is a great forum to gauge public opinion. Any insights gained in this respect should help an attorney in developing strategies for jury selection.

Anyone can learn from this site, not just attorneys. As an example, I never knew just how confident people felt about the reliability of polygraph testing until a few weeks ago, when the topic was given its' own threads here. Personally, I think polygraphs are crackpot science, but I was surprised to read how many people think the lie detector is gospel.

 

[JBean]

I disagree. This web site is a great forum to gauge public opinion. Any insights gained in this respect should help an attorney in developing strategies for jury selection.

Anyone can learn from this site, not just attorneys. As an example, I never knew just how confident people felt about the reliability of polygraph testing until a few weeks ago, when the topic was given its' own threads here. Personally, I think polygraphs are crackpot science, but I was surprised to read how many people think the lie detector is gospel.

I agree with you about the value of this site.
I also am not a fan of LDT, but I don't think I would go so far as to call it crackpot science. But you are right that was very telling information about general attitudes towards the test.
I didn't really think about this site as a tool for jury selection but you are right again..this is a wealth of info for that.

 

[Charge Them All]

Her defense is gonna be just what it is now. She dropped Caylee off with the nanny blah, blah, blah. She is too cocky and she thinks she will get away with that story. Her attorney seems to have the same cockiness and I think it will bite them both in the azz during trial.

 

[lowa1]

Her defense is gonna be just what it is now. She dropped Caylee off with the nanny blah, blah, blah. She is too cocky and she thinks she will get away with that story. Her attorney seems to have the same cockiness and I think it will bite them both in the azz during trial.

You know I think you may be right. Why change the defense now? It seems to have worked thus far. Just keep your mouth shut. Maybe she will plead the 5th?:waitasec:

 

[Tuba]

No judge would allow you to present that defense without proof that George was actually guilty of molesting Casey.

Absolutely correct. Slander per se, in or out of court. I have seen no evidence whatever that Casey was molested.

 

[Tuba]

For either the neglect charges now or for the murder charges that are sure to come eventually. (Problems with posting. Message box demands I post more than 5 characters but I have entered more than 50)


I think it would be ignorant based on her lies etc. to put her on the stand. The prosecutor would have a FIELD day with her! MOO!

What do you think?

I think you could not BE more correct! Not zero credibility but credibility running in the red. Furthermore, as an inveterate liar, the lies would continue on the stand and create disaster for her and her att'y. ​

Jeni

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[Tuba]

There is no problem charging and trying for neglect and then proceeding to try for murder. In Manatee, Bradenton, 2007, evidence from the neglect trial of Maribel Chavey used in the murder trial to follow, whether N conviction obtained or not because the N charge was ongoing and jurors could hear that evidence in the murder trial. Distinction is made from the use of history of criminal conduct, not admissible to evoke defendant's venal character, propensity to commit murder, etc.

 

[newuser]

The problem I have with the defense of dropped off with the Nanny, blah, blah, blah is the next question I would expect from the prosecution would be "You didn't have a job. Why did you even need a babysitter?"

It makes no sense at all that she had a nanny to start with. Clearly she had no job, no income, no place to be, for at least two years. So the whole nanny/babysitter story just leaks like a sieve for me.

I doubt very seriously the defense will put KC on the stand. She is not required to say one word in her own defense, and I would be very surprised if she does. Her credibility is shot, and I don't think it would help at all for her to speak.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There is no way that the defense would ever put Casey on the stand. PERIOD. Out of the question.

Insanity won't fly.

They have to stick with a "version" of the kidnapping scenario as it was her first statement. They can deviate somewhat...but it will be her defense. Casey knew she had been "kidnapped", but was too afraid to seek help yada yada yada.

 

[Short_Stuff]

Please dont give them any more ideas for a defense!..lol. IMO, the prosecuter will eat her alive in this case, and I for one, cant wait.

 

[Oakley]

There is no way that the defense would ever put Casey on the stand. PERIOD. Out of the question.

Insanity won't fly.

They have to stick with a "version" of the kidnapping scenario as it was her first statement. They can deviate somewhat...but it will be her defense. Casey knew she had been "kidnapped", but was too afraid to seek help yada yada yada.

How would KC not testifying affect the jury? If I were on the jury, I might be inclined to hold it against the defense, wondering what they might be hiding.

 

[Kalie61]

I have been thinking about how I would defend Casey if I were her attorney. She is a habitual liar, with no moral code, which would make her hard to present to a jury. I would just need to establish reasonable doubt..........

I believe I could do it with my but...... GEORGE DEFENSE........

I would portray Casey as a young woman who had been sexually abused by her father since age 2 or 3. I would show her sociopath ways even as a kid to show how it had affected her mentally. Bring in every person she ever went to school with to tell about her lies and crazy ways. I would bring out all of her promiscuity, drugs, alcohol, etc. to show the pattern of a sexually abused young woman. I would get shrink after shrink to testify how that is the exact patterns they see in their practice when sexual abuse started young by a parent.

Then I would try to make the jury think the reason George filed for divorce in 05 was to get away from the house because he knew he would most likely do the same to Caylee. When that didn't work out, George fought the urge as long as he could but he eventually succumbed to his perversion.

Caylee could talk now and was going to tell Cindy. He killed her as he knew he would go to jail for the rest of his life, and with his LE background he could likely hide her where no one would ever find her.

The day it happened he put her in the back yard, because Cindy would be home soon. Casey was gone, because she had not come back for Tony's the night before. Cindy said she did not see Casey that morning before she left, but she heard them in the room. Then we get to the big lie George told about seeing them both that morning down to the details of what they had on.

Then, I would remind the jury of George saying he had a key to Casey's car. All he would have to do would be load her in Casey's car in what he thought was a sealed bag and dispose of the body. He could have told Casey when she came in that day to go borrow that shovel that he was going to move a bush and she most likely would have. She could have thought Caylee was with Cindy. While Casey was taking a nap or taking a shower, George could have taken the body and buried it somewhere close without Casey ever knowing her car had been moved or just put it in the trunk of the car.

Why Casey left her car that night was because she opened the trunk and found the body...She freaked out...she left her purse, lost her blackjack etc. all in a fit of panic. She calls her dad, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut or he would say she did it and everyone would believe him since he was LE.

Casey ran to Tony's and other places to stay hidden, because she knew if she saw her mother, all hell would break loose. She had a psychotic break of sorts.

In the meantime her father had a chance to get to her and tell her the way it was going to be told. She didn't want her mother to find out she had been having sex with her father all those years, and was terrified he would blame it on her because it was a violent death.

She planned to get to California to the Marine, but she had to come up with some money first.

That is as far as I have in my George defense.........but that would work.

Well it could work if any of it were true. You would have to prove that she was molested by her father. It isn't enough to just say it, and you cannot get up there and just start telling lies.

I don't think it would work.