What will Cindy's Role be in Upcoming Events?

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

(Posting as bazaaro Chiquita71)

Okay. I give in. I don't want to be the bad person. Casey did not kill Caylee. There was no body at the remains site when Casey was in jail, the searchers from TES say so.

So what Cindy and George are making money during this time. What they have been through is not over yet. They are involved with a different life now.

They can act however they want, they are not really hurting anyone. Caylee is gone and Casey is in jail.

I don't want to make it out like I am doing a obvious sarcastic "its the opposite of my opinion post." Really, I'm not. I am trying to write this out and really feel that way. Sometimes I think I should be feeling this way. That's a big part of it, feeling that I am wrong about the opinions I feel(very, very)strongly. I am not a person who thinks they are always right. I wonder how I can have such a different feeling about the same "facts/reality" that fellow humans(who also seem reasonable). Can I be seeing this all wrong?

Why do I have the opinion I do? Others don't. There are respected adults that are going on record letting us know that Casey is innocent. Cindy has told us that the truth will come out at the trial.

Will that be Cindy's role? Will she join in with Casey and George and Lee and they will all tell their truth?

I want to make it clear for myself about this post: I'm not trying to be baiting to the other sides opinion. I'm doing a devil's advocate type of thing. I'm not going to pretend that my mind is changed in any way but I do want to strongly entertain the other side of this because I feel like there is an understanding that I can only gain by doing so. :crazy::waitasec:

Yeah, I don't know what I am saying either. Except, I do because it feels like "going against" Cindy(Casey, The Anthony's)is becoming too difficult for me to maintain. I feel tired of being outraged and worried about what Cindy is going to do next(but not tired enough to stop reading). And, in many ways it is Cindy I am the most mad with. I have projected my own mother and family onto this family-this is am aware of, how much of it is me and how much is them...? I can not say how much of what I have experienced has influenced my opinion of them. I don't know. Am I a person who sees things as they are? Clearly?

I feel like I am the bad person. All I can do is sit on my computer and blog about their life. I am honestly saying this to criticize myself.

Why do I care? Why do I not let this go and move on with my life?

I could hold the opinion that I hope Casey is set free. Totally free. I know what that means for Caylee. Her mom won't be in jail and her grandma and grandpa will be happier. That is probably what she wants, from where she is in heaven.

I have never followed a case before. I have never gotten this personally involved with a case. I do not know how LE handles being how close they are to these cases, you run through so many emotions and they are actually experiencing the reality. I starting reading here like I was reading information from a book or newspaper but when you get deeper and realize that "public opinion" is being used-you start to feel somewhat "involved"(ws tell me if I am going nuts...I think I am.) I know pubic opinion has always been used but now we are in the computer age and...(I think what started this for me was TP being on WS, its like a private place was entered for me. Bad last sentence but I'll leave it..how I wrote it....) :crazy:

WS, please understand that this post is "what it is" I am not making ANY points here one way or the other. I am just spilling out a lot of inner confusion over this case. I have truly felt all the ways I have ever posted about this case. And even the "opposite" things I have posted today cross my mind and I feel both these ways some times.

Yes. Sooo much easier to give in...(getting sleepy now...):bang:

...jmo...I:blowkiss:WS

 

[LambChop]

Sometimes we get ourselves too personally involved in a case such as this one. We want to know it all, every last little detail as if it is a member of our family. The key word is that you have to detach yourself and try to look at things objectively....it's very hard but that is what the police have to do. She is in jail with no bond because they have some pretty damming evidence and if CA, GA or Lee have any information about "who actually killed Caylee" they would have come forward long ago. They have the perfect spokesman sitting right next to them in court, a TV producer. How could they not tell him. Sadly, the A's know nothing about anyone other than their own daughter or they would have come forward by now.

 

[kageykaren]

I understand this type of feeling as I'm sure posters after me may post similar feelings. July, 15, 2008 a little toddler was murdered and that is what brought a good many to W/S and we are still here trying to post daily to get the word out when something is wronging the grace Caylee bestowed on this family. From month to month I would cave concerning my feelings towards CA, GA, LA feeling each time Caylee's immediate family is going through so much and that is why the family never looked for her ect... After many moments of trying sustain empathy I had to stop. It was making me sick in the tummy. The A's have tilled up enough carrots for yrs. to come to dangle in front of us as if she might have a Aha! moment but it never came to past. Only manipulations and avoidence to stand up for Caylee Marie Anthony. I'v said many times throughout this case to stick with Spock Logic, take emotion out of sluething & posting, stick with facts and behavior displayed from this family. You may find the "empathy" card was used up only leaving logic to prevail. Try to remember the many opptions offered to this family and how they responded with there free will. I can't tell you how to think as we all have "Up moments & Down moments". Whats the old saying that Mick Jagger sung? "Once burned twice shy" Investigation is over (I think?) and I'm very shy to give the A's anymore Leeway. The A's ugly coping being displayed at a 4 star hotel while eating "crab cakes" after being told Caylee's body was being found by LE is eye openning. Then for the A's to have the forthought to send a PI to their house to look for planted listening devices before returning home was creepy. One of many statements that sticks with me is one by LA, "Being forthright and being honest are two different things." It is so difficult to accept that part of me that is judgemental but it is a natural thought that this family set themselves up for. Your a good gal that is why your tormented with wanting to find the good within. No try and do a post from your left brain of logic and fact and see if that guides you to an understanding. Peace within ~<3~

 

[SailorMoon]

I firmly believe that Cindy will NEVER lose faith in her daughter. To do so would admit that Casey is not perfect, and therefore that would cast a "bad" image on the A's. I think Cindy will "think" she's helping the defense, but will nail the prosecution's case shut.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Never give in. Keep a little crack open in your mind. Believe in yourself not only what others' say. Messages to me outloud to you. :blowkiss:

I too have never been involved in a news story like this. It was the 31 days not reported missing fact that got me and then the changes in the initial outcrying of CA that drew me further in. I stay in hope of finding the answer to her responses as well as other reasons. I suspect them - the A's - in some way and then feel strange, wrong, odd man out, etc. for doing so - but, still I do. If it turns out that all the theories discussed/examined here are wrong then we will all learn something and will have to digest our own judgements. I mean no personal harm to anyone but realize sometimes things I say can be hurtful. It's an examination table trying to uncover the disease is how I look at it.

Getting involved in the case has taught me a lot about a lot of subjects that I've had no experience/knowledge of which is a growth opportunity. Also it has kept me from shopping when I don't really need to be shopping. But my house has really suffered and I've become too involved and can't quite figure that out cept, if you miss something, you're lost and it takes a lot to catch up.

Do you, per chance, have Gemini rising? I found out here that I do which causes me to seem wishy washy sometimes. I'd rather be w-w than insist that I know exactly what happened when I know I don't - I know I'm not God - at least I'm clear about that.

 

[Themis]

The prosecution will issue a subpoena if they want CA to testify. CA will be required to show up.

I searched this thread for the keyword "contempt" and didn't find it discussed.

If CA testifies at trial and displays the kind of behavior she displayed in her deposition, there is a strong probability that the public will get to see CA facing a summary contempt of court proceeding up close and personal. CA could be found guilty and sanctioned with fines, community service or jail time. :behindbar

 

[Chiquita71]

I understand this type of feeling as I'm sure posters after me may post similar feelings. July, 15, 2008 a little toddler was murdered and that is what brought a good many to W/S and we are still here trying to post daily to get the word out when something is wronging the grace Caylee bestowed on this family. From month to month I would cave concerning my feelings towards CA, GA, LA feeling each time Caylee's immediate family is going through so much and that is why the family never looked for her ect... After many moments of trying sustain empathy I had to stop. It was making me sick in the tummy. The A's have tilled up enough carrots for yrs. to come to dangle in front of us as if she might have a Aha! moment but it never came to past. Only manipulations and avoidence to stand up for Caylee Marie Anthony. I'v said many times throughout this case to stick with Spock Logic, take emotion out of sluething & posting, stick with facts and behavior displayed from this family. You may find the "empathy" card was used up only leaving logic to prevail. Try to remember the many opptions offered to this family and how they responded with there free will. I can't tell you how to think as we all have "Up moments & Down moments". Whats the old saying that Mick Jagger sung? "Once burned twice shy" Investigation is over (I think?) and I'm very shy to give the A's anymore Leeway. The A's ugly coping being displayed at a 4 star hotel while eating "crab cakes" after being told Caylee's body was being found by LE is eye openning. Then for the A's to have the forthought to send a PI to their house to look for planted listening devices before returning home was creepy. One of many statements that sticks with me is one by LA, "Being forthright and being honest are two different things." It is so difficult to accept that part of me that is judgemental but it is a natural thought that this family set themselves up for. Your a good gal that is why your tormented with wanting to find the good within. No try and do a post from your left brain of logic and fact and see if that guides you to an understanding. Peace within ~<3~

Quote Respect kageykaren

Because I am so desperately looking for validation(I learned that through self help, therapy and not lying to myself) I am taking that you think I am a "good gal", that you were talking to me and I want to accept what you said, kageykaren because: I have problems with believing that about myself. (You got me crying thinking someone saw that in me...) :crazy::boohoo:

"I am a good gal!"(I do positive affirmations) I had a mom who said I was not a good gal. To THIS DAY I search and search to find the difference between what is "good and evil" right and wrong.

If my mother is good and she says I am bad, then I am bad. If it is my mother that is bad, then I am good? I don't know?

There is no line for good or bad. It is about the person you wish to be? I would not be the mother my mother was/is. Am I the good mother?

When I use my logic, and take emotion out of it as suggested. I think my mother was selfish and a narcissist and so is Cindy. That sounds like my emotions but my emotions are controlled by what my mother taught me...and my emotions tell me that it is I who is the narcissist and who is selfish.

That's why I think it is them.

And, when I start doubting myself is when what she thought was right and wrong comes creeping in. How do you de-tangle yourself from your mother? I wonder if this is what Casey was going through? I went though a stage where my mother could push my buttons and push me to such a rage...

THIS is the exact reason I do not have children. People who think mothers don't get mad enough to...well, they must have had very nice mothers.

Babies like Caylee and all the other angels are just that: angels who came to teach us all a lesson. We each have a different thing to learn. I really want child abuse to stop. God, do I have to say that? Their parents did it, a stranger did it: no matter it is still children being hurt.

Everyone is someone's child. Everyone was a child, a little baby born...even killers. If we stop child abuse, I feel we will stop so much of the needless deaths of children that keeps happening, and happening. Some people may be born to hurt others, I really do not know: but a lot of these tragedies could be avoided if we really really started caring about children in our world.

Do I have any bright ideas, no. I'm just being hopeful. I know there are so many people who care about children. Millions and millions. So many people help in many ways.

Here's to a day when every child born is loved and never abused or hurt anymore.

I do feel silly sharing so much but if mother-daughter relations we're not so life or death emotional sometimes, I do not think we would be discussing this case. My mother not loving me broke my heart. I just think I handled it in a, thank God/dess(and I do!) different way than Casey.

...jmo...I:blowkiss:WS

 

[OneLostGrl]

I firmly believe that Cindy will NEVER lose faith in her daughter. To do so would admit that Casey is not perfect, and therefore that would cast a "bad" image on the A's. I think Cindy will "think" she's helping the defense, but will nail the prosecution's case shut.

I'm not so sure Cindy would never turn against Casey, I could see her turning on her in a heartbeat if it's something Cindy feels she betrayed her over. People like Cindy have this amazing ability to split, love turns to hate, black turns to white, good is bad.. I can see Cindy turning on her, I could even see her commiting a crime and trying to pin it on her own daughter.

 

[maswondering2]

I'm not so sure Cindy would never turn against Casey, I could see her turning on her in a heartbeat if it's something Cindy feels she betrayed her over. People like Cindy have this amazing ability to split, love turns to hate, black turns to white, good is bad.. I can see Cindy turning on her, I could even see her commiting a crime and trying to pin it on her own daughter.

I see it happening as well....thats why for over a year now on the 1 st call home when Casey says...
CI: Casey?
CA: Mom
CI: Casey
CA: Well, I just saw your nice little cameo on tv
CI: Which one?
CA: What do you mean which one?
CI: Which one? I did four different ones, and I don't know... I haven't seem
them all. I've only seen one. or two so far...
****CA: You "don't know what my involvement is in stuff"?****

her tone has made me I wonder...... wondered.....wondered and wondered....:crosseyed:

 

[kageykaren]

Awww, Darlin if you could only see for yourself how others see you as the good gal. Many times I'v mentioned what I refer to as Pollyanna attitude about life in general. My mother used to batter me for this way of thinking. Everytime and there were many I allowed this abuse made me more of a Pollyanna to diss her off. I took this abuse so that my 2 baby brothers would not be hurt. Mom was one of extreme cases of Manic depressive disorder accompanied with psychosis. I raised her, my brothers because there was know one else. Everytime those sick verbal assaults happened it increased the self doubt from inside. Add this with everyday issues you might want to have a stiff drink. Those intrusive tapes mom leaves with us eventually makes you sick like a tape deck those goes haywire spewing out all the taped recordings.from the old days. Well we have slick dvd's in todays world affording us to record new messages to our sweet selves. "You are not your mothers opinion!" Be the good person that you are. Make that aspect of yourelf change. Everytime a negative of yourself hits stop yourself and think of a moment that has made you feel good about yourself. I started my psych career at the age of 15, volunterring on the weekends at a state mental hospital. For some reason I knew if I learned about my mothers issues I could keep one step ahead. Knowledge is power and it can give you self insight to make change mentally and physically. Hugs want some kleenex as I'm going now to get some. Flue bug is keeping me emotional. You are "One in a miilion girls" (song by the Tubes) and I hope you treat yourself good and with the grace you so want to afford others that truly are undeserving, as there isn't anyone else like you and thats to darn bad. ~<3~

 

[OneLostGrl]

I see it happening as well....thats why for over a year now on the 1 st call home when Casey says...
CI: Casey?
CA: Mom
CI: Casey
CA: Well, I just saw your nice little cameo on tv
CI: Which one?
CA: What do you mean which one?
CI: Which one? I did four different ones, and I don't know... I haven't seem
them all. I've only seen one. or two so far...
****CA: You "don't know what my involvement is in stuff"?****

her tone has made me I wonder...... wondered.....wondered and wondered....:crosseyed:

I'm with ya...

Add-

Cindy "We forgive you for whatever you said"

Casey "Don't worry, I didn't say anything"

 

[maswondering2]

I'm with ya...

Add-

Cindy "We forgive you for whatever you said"

Casey "Don't worry, I didn't say anything"

EXACTLY LOSTGIRL so glad you follow me! :woohoo:

 

[Pink Panther]

CA has single-handedly done more damage to her daughter's potential defence than anyone else! She has ensured that her daughter will be found guilty - with a LWOP or DP verdict. If we were to go by KC's two interviews and NOTHING else, there would be a lot of "reasonable doubt"...Perhaps not convincing enough; but doubt none-the-less. With the picture that CA has provided, there is VERY LITTLE "reasonable" doubt left. Hooray CA! Let's see you wink away when your daughter is officially accused!

MOO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Coming next week in the National Enquirer!!:clap:

Beware that the picture may have nothing to do with the story. They lure people to buy the magazine that way - putting implications on the cover. I would not believe what they publish though they have been right a time or two. :waitasec:

 

[Pink Panther]

I no longer have doubts that there is LOTS of chite beneath the surface that this family prides itself to present. I also believe that it's unlikely that most or any of their family secrets will emerge. Fine by me. I'll be satisfied when KC is tried and convicted of murdering her daughter. That's when Caylee will have her justice and that will be enough. The rest, as much as I might be curious, is simply fodder.

MOO

 

[essies]

For Chiquita71 and anyone who needs a big hug today!!

 

[Pink Panther]

Beware that the picture may have nothing to do with the story. They lure people to buy the magazine that way - putting implications on the cover. I would not believe what they publish though they have been right a time or two. :waitasec:

It has been well over 10 years since they have published bull chite UFO abduction stuff. They frequently "bend" the truth a bit by relying on unreliable sources but they certainly are not the carppy publication that they used to be.

MOO

 

[essies]

Beware that the picture may have nothing to do with the story. They lure people to buy the magazine that way - putting implications on the cover. I would not believe what they publish though they have been right a time or two. :waitasec:

I agree! There's really nothing earth shattering to the story-just putting an interesting twist (with Sue Moss's comments) on BC's comments!! Worth a glance though!!

 

[Pink Panther]

I agree! There's really nothing earth shattering to the story-just putting an interesting twist (with Sue Moss's comments) on BC's comments!! Worth a glance though!!

Worth a glance and gratefully nothing about alien abductions right?

: )

 

[CuriousTwo]

Coming next week in the National Enquirer!!:clap:

Thanks! When we've been inundated with details and the A's antics, it's interesting to see the facts laid out together in an article. It's all info we've heard before, but interesting the way it's consolidated.