What will Cindy's Role be in Upcoming Events?

[MADJGNLAW]

Originally Posted by Leila
I agree 100% with your entire post, but in regards to what I've bolded, I believe Cindy's goal was to derail LE by finding Caylee's remains first and permanently disposing of them. If it can ever be proven that she did, in fact, send DC to Suburban with the goal of finding and disposing of Caylee's remains, I feel Cindy should be charged with accessory after the fact.

In the past almost three years, Cindy has gone to great lengths to try to cast blame and frame others, and the general impression is that Cindy would stop at nothing to get Casey free. It's because of that impression that I feel Cindy is capable of physical interference into a police investigation by finding and removing the key evidence - Caylee's remains.

Taking into consideration that despite the fact that the car smelled of human decomposition, Cindy did clean Casey's car after she got it home from the impound yard and washed Casey's slacks destroying any evidence that was on them, as an example of Cindy's willingness to physically alter the appearance of the car. No one will ever know if she removed some sort of evidence from that car. It's true that she didn't know at the time that the car would become evidence of a crime, but the odor in that car alone would have stopped anyone from touching it.

In the poll question, I voted that Cindy's role will play a prominent part in the trial for the defense. In last week's hearing, Cindy was observed trying to get JB's attention in regards to a law professor she thought was a prosecution witness. I think she sees herself as part of the defense team. She's also been observed shaking her head "no" during a witness's testimony, and having facial expressions that indicate she doesn't agree with the testimony. If she continues this behavior during the trial, it could be construed as trying to influence the jury and she may end up not being allowed in the courtroom except for her testimony.

I always questioned why she even cleaned out the car and left for work. Why? Didn't she even say at one time she was a nurse of decompostion? LOL. Then she changed her tune and said it was pizza. Well, there was no darn pizza in trunk, only a box.

Made no sense back then, and still makes no sense. Casey said it herself in that one jail video. "Mom what do you mean you don't know what is going on". She knew...I tell ya...she knew IMO. She will be on every talk show that will take her come the next few weeks to taint the jury as well. Somebody needs to file a gag order on her and keep both her and George out of the court room IMO. :cow:

 

[pip]

What kind of sick woman could go into a garage and trunk, filled with the overwhelming, rotting smell of your decomposed grand daughter and start cleaning up the mess? She d@mn well knew what she was cleaning. HOW does a grand mother do this? She IS the source of ICA's personality disorder, imo.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Casey said it herself in that one jail video. "Mom what do you mean you don't know what is going on". She knew...I tell ya...she knew IMO.

Respectfully snipped...


I've always wondered about that statement ICA made. :waitasec:

 

[pip]

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I've always wondered about that statement ICA made. :waitasec:

I think she was baiting Cindy to get a response that may elicit whether she was on her side or not. Cindy didn't take the bait.
I also liked this one:
'Um, well, I was arrested on a f'ing whim..

Correction ICA, that would be on a f'ing whiff.

 

[logicalgirl]

I know CA's behaviors and attempts to manipulate, tamper, obstruct, etc. over the last two years has driven us around the bend. But.....

And it's a big But- aside from CA's initial testimony re the 911 calls, CA will have as little to do and/or influence this trial as a single grain of sand of a beach does.

I agree - she's done a lot - way too much - way over the top and should be charged - but....the actual case in chief against ICA - phaaaat - nothing. No one is interested in what she thinks, wants or objects to.

CA just will not be a player in this case - at all. Day one - what - an hour or two max? After that - buh bye CA. IMO of course.

 

[janine]

I know CA's behaviors and attempts to manipulate, tamper, obstruct, etc. over the last two years has driven us around the bend. But.....

And it's a big But- aside from CA's initial testimony re the 911 calls, CA will have as little to do and/or influence this trial as a single grain of sand of a beach does.

I agree - she's done a lot - way too much - way over the top and should be charged - but....the actual case in chief against ICA - phaaaat - nothing. No one is interested in what she thinks, wants or objects to.

CA just will not be a player in this case - at all. Day one - what - an hour or two max? After that - buh bye CA. IMO of course.

I agree 1000%. CA will have very little to add after the initial 911 call(s) and possibly her take on the car situation, when she last saw her granddaughter and ICA's statements to HER the night of the 15th. That goes for GA and LA, as well. I believe LA will have very little to do, maybe the statements ICA made to him, but that's it.

You all saw how JA backed off of asking CA a question in Friday's hearing.
I think he saw that it was pointless and that she would lie anyway. She will prove to be more of nuisance in this trial- Like a tree stump in an acre of Sod, something to have to move and trip around.

JB will try to get value out of her but it will prove to be a huge mistake because she's a loose canon. She can't even contain herself for a 5 minute testimony on a very simple testimony. You saw her- she had to be reigned in and knew right away she was stepping in it again.
I actually hope JB does put her up there and tries to find some value in her. She is a sure fire to sink her horrid daughter. In this case, less is more where CA is concerned.

 

[Itsy]

This is where I should have posted the following...I got lost in the snarky thread, lol

As for Cindy.......I can understand other's compassion, and I have some too, to an extent - or I used to...now, not so much - just an itsy amount, lol . In the 3rd 911 call she was HONEST in her terrified tone and one can only imagine what she was thinking at home those next few days & nights- when no one was there to see her. I'm sure she was a wreck, wondering about the TRUTH about Caylee, wondering if they'd cleaned the car well enough, wondering what Casey was telling the cops. But then she started turning it all around and OBSTRUCTED & LIED to LE, FBI, the public, her family - but most of all to herself. They say if you tell a lie over & over, eventually someone like Cindy (or Casey) will believe it's the truth. And we all know a liar won't believe anyone else is telling the truth...

Can't they (most reporters & news commentators) see how blatant she's been and continues to be with her ever changing stories? A lot sure seems to slip past them or they get it all wrong. I think I heard 3 incorrect statements on JVM tonight...

And if by chance Cindy was on an anti-depressant beforehand (she may very well have been, given she hadn't heard from/seen/talked to Caylee for a month & a day), I don't think they would have changed it until after everything came crashing down on her world 7/16/08. What she said 2.5 years ago was more truthful than what she says now. Her memory isn't "getting better/coming back" - in fact, she's said she doesn't recall a good bit of June & July 2008 more often than not. I think in the end she'll not help either side much (except for the 911 call). Her lies to the SA will be obvious as will her lies to JB et al attempting to help Casey. OK, I better get to bed b/c either this is driving me crazy or I'm just too beat to think straight, lol.

(Hmmm, wonder if the good Dr. Vass would have time to conduct a Febrez & dryer sheet softener test before trial.)

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

What a difference a day makes...

CA lost her credibility and with her testimony yesterday, she definately appears to be a witness for the defense, not the state..According to BShaeffer, who is always in the courtroom, he saw ICA mouth something to CA, as she left the stand. Either Love you or thank you....since CA now seems to be defending the defense, ICA threw her a little morsel...it will only get worse as the state shows this grandmother has no credibility...but they will show, time and time again, that she has changed her testimony...she needs to hope and pray, she's not arrested for perjury....:maddening:

It's truly sad to see this family turn their backs on Caylee Marie...they will meet their maker one day....JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[MADJGNLAW]

:maddening: Her role is to taint the jury, try to confuse the jury, & try and get sympathy from the jury. :maddening: JMO :cow:

I just don't understand why Cindy has not been charged with perjury yet.:maddening::maddening::maddening:

IMO the DT picked George as the scape goat because he feels guilty of telling some truth. IMO, he mainly feels guilty for what ever he said to the Grand Jury and blames himself for Casey being in jail and figures he will give up his life for hers IMO. When JVM asked his attorney if George was going to plead the 5th the attorney avoided the question at first then when re-asked he just said, "I don't work for the DT so I don't know what their strategy is". Something to that effect..and then said he would stand up for his client if falsely accused...something to that effect. So to me this attorney is going to go on media tours to create reasonable doubt and try to prove George is innocent in the public eye. Ummm...I would call this jury tainting to create reasonable doubt. JMO. I think this is one part of the ambush the DT are planning. Heck, look how dirty Jose was yesterday and the judge let the witness testify anyway. Ashton was burning mad and couldn't do anything about it. I say the judge will grant most of Baez motions, but come trial time the judge will sing another tune. He is just making sure that when they appeal the case since IMO she will be found guilty they don't have any grounds for the appeal. Sorry got off topic, back to Cindy.

Cindy is blaming the meds for her memory loss and it really makes me mad because I have been sick most of my life and have taken antidepressants in the past after I was rapped, was in a comma and lost part of my memory. But even after losing my memory I still remember anything that is important/special/tragic.

The antidepressants didn't make me forget anything. And I was on about 7 different types of meds a day. They make you sleepy, cranky, nauseous, feel high. or hungry.

Cindy seemed fine when she was out and about on her talk shows, fighting with the protesters more so than George, hanging out at Kid Finders, hanging out in front of stores selling t-shirts and Caylee bracelets, on her cruise, and on their boat., The only time I noticed she looked different was the day Caylee's remains where found and she was on LK I think, it was almost like she was prepared already. Maybe kronk called the Anthony tip line since LE didn't do much and the Anthony's had already known Caylee was out there. I will never forget the day that Cindy was so mad at Tim Miller for wanting to search for Caylee, she refused to give him anything that belong to Caylee so that they could use it for her scent. :maddening: She knew the area was flooded and Tim had a gut feeling that is where Caylee would be found but for what ever reason when he came back he didn't search there. I recall we all had hope that the huge search would be the one they would find Caylee. That is around the same time that Nejaim quit and even donated $5000 towards the search for Caylee if I am not mistaken. A lot happen around that time, DC was out in the area making his video and searching, so again I will say this....Cindy/the Anthony's knew where Caylee was and Cindy being a nurse and George an ex cop they knew the longer Caylee lay out in the woods, rotted, got eaten by scavengers, and decomposed the ME would not be able to find a cause of death. JMO though...

And when she got back from LK she went back to being her self. So this selective memory thing will not fly with me. I sure wish someone would put her in jail a few weeks so she can get her memory back, or maybe she won't remember she was even in there. Just sicking that she would not want justice for the grand-baby that she raised. :maddening:

 

[Bee Charmer]

CA's role... Same is has been since she recovered from her one moment of honesty on the phone with LE that first night. She IMO, will twist, spin, lie, blame, all with no limits. She IMO is capable of just about any act that will free ICA, and I do not believe it is for ICA's benefit, but rather some twisted benefit of her own, that I am likely not capable of understanding.

After cynthia's performance yesterday, I am convinced she is working hand in glove with baez to do anything, including lying under oath, to help her daughter beat this rap.

I think baez made a boneheaded move, putting cynthia on the stand yesterday. Now, Jeff and Linda have been tipped off just how far cynthia will go in her deceptive testimony.

I believe they will now formulate a plan to counter these lies, should they continue at trial.

 

[logicalgirl]

I agree 1000%. CA will have very little to add after the initial 911 call(s) and possibly her take on the car situation, when she last saw her granddaughter and ICA's statements to HER the night of the 15th. That goes for GA and LA, as well. I believe LA will have very little to do, maybe the statements ICA made to him, but that's it.

You all saw how JA backed off of asking CA a question in Friday's hearing.
I think he saw that it was pointless and that she would lie anyway. She will prove to be more of nuisance in this trial- Like a tree stump in an acre of Sod, something to have to move and trip around.

JB will try to get value out of her but it will prove to be a huge mistake because she's a loose canon. She can't even contain herself for a 5 minute testimony on a very simple testimony. You saw her- she had to be reigned in and knew right away she was stepping in it again.
I actually hope JB does put her up there and tries to find some value in her. She is a sure fire to sink her horrid daughter. In this case, less is more where CA is concerned.

Yes, agree with you - and the more evidence CA hears in the trial, the more she will "come apart" in her behavior and any attempts JB tries to get CA to testify to something he needs will blow up in his face. CA will definitely be a loose cannon.

I think JA didn't ask CA any questions because they got what they wanted - and that was to confirm the horrible smell in the trunk, that DESPITE what the defense was saying about garbage causing it, the trunk smelled so bad even with a can of Febreeze and dryer sheets, it had to be moved out of the garage.

So for me, the SA scored a huge win right there and JB didn't even see it coming. Cause we all know it is possible to clean up really bad garbage with some cleaning and air freshner, but decomp? Still there months later. A big win for the SA and IMO what they were going for.

Dryer sheets, schmyer sheets, for some of us who mix cleaning products, we'd be stretched out on our carpets all over the place if this could produce chloroform. Such nonsense JB, and did you just see how the SA stepped on you again. :loser:

Mother of the murderer admitting to the smell of decomp? The worst thing she has ever smelled? :floorlaugh: Not pizza? :floorlaugh: Thank you Mr. Baez!

 

[Brattigirle]

I have a question and I am not sure where to ask it, it pertains to CA's testimony April 1.

Why does the DT want to stress that the trunk was open for so long with the febreeze and dryer sheets? I get what they are trying to do with the fresheners but why stress the trunk being OPEN?

 

[logicalgirl]

I have a question and I am not sure where to ask it, it pertains to CA's testimony April 1.

Why does the DT want to stress that the trunk was open for so long with the febreeze and dryer sheets? I get what they are trying to do with the fresheners but why stress the trunk being OPEN?

Suggesting someone sneaked up and dumped a load of decomp in the trunk??:banghead:

I think it had to do with Dr. Vass and the air samples?? The dogs not smelling human decomp in the trunk because it had been open so long???

Cause the DT was heading up yet another blind alley? It made no rational sense to me at all.

 

[logicalgirl]

Here's a question for you - if you were sitting on the jury, and Dr. Vass was on the stand and testified about human decomp levels in the trunk, and explained it in easy layman's language, then CA got up on the stand and said - it was garbage or dead pizza or something - which one would you believe?

One is basing their evidence on years of research and tested scientific material, and one is testifying about evidence that is blurred by self admitted drug use....

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

I have a question and I am not sure where to ask it, it pertains to CA's testimony April 1.

Why does the DT want to stress that the trunk was open for so long with the febreeze and dryer sheets? I get what they are trying to do with the fresheners but why stress the trunk being OPEN?

Thank you Brattigirle for your question. 'Splain it to me cuz I don't know what they are trying to show with the dryer sheets and febreeze. If this could cause the formation of chloroform, wouldn't that bolster Dr. Vass's test results? What am I missing? :waitasec:

 

[LambChop]

Here's a question for you - if you were sitting on the jury, and Dr. Vass was on the stand and testified about human decomp levels in the trunk, and explained it in easy layman's language, then CA got up on the stand and said - it was garbage or dead pizza or something - which one would you believe?

One is basing their evidence on years of research and tested scientific material, and one is testifying about evidence that is blurred by self admitted drug use....

Easy test comparison. Three years later LE still has the garbage bag with trash in storage and the carpeting from the trunk. We already know the trash in the bag does not smell because of JB's motion that SA did not protect the smell (lol) but how much do you want to bet the carpet still smells horrific? I don't think defense wants that "sniffer" evidence brought to the attention of the jury. They may ask to see it. jmo

 

[lowens1975]

They really ought to bring a piece of that stained carpet into the court room along with the bag of trash and have one of the cadaver dogs show them which one smells like decomp.

As far as the dryer sheets, the photo's I've seen only had ONE that looked like it had been tossed into the back seat of Casey's car. If she used them that sparingly, no way the trunk would have registered high levels of it off of one or two sheets. If they did, there would be a lot of people passed out from just trying to do laundry.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Easy test comparison. Three years later LE still has the garbage bag with trash in storage and the carpeting from the trunk. We already know the trash in the bag does not smell because of JB's motion that SA did not protect the smell (lol) but how much do you want to bet the carpet still smells horrific? I don't think defense wants that "sniffer" evidence brought to the attention of the jury. They may ask to see it. jmo

I know this sounds crazy but I sure hope the State will take the jury out to the bay where the car is being held and let them smell for them self. The smell of decomposition never leaves a car. Never. Once the jury smells that trunk they will know the difference. Hope Ashton and or Linda are reading here.

 

[countzero]

HA as I laugh. CA has been preparing for her spotlight(s) for the past 2.5 years. We have seen the helmut look with casual clothings. We have seen the poor attempt at the "go granny" look (side note here: an insult to every grandmother on the earth), we have seen the "let me grow my hair out so I look like ICA" look. The "bikini and tattoo" look ( my eyes). The "see all the weight loss" look along with the"braless" look (again cover my eyes). And the most recent "back to the short hair look" but "still haven't figured out how to properly dress" look.

She will strategize for the next month to present her version of the CA martyr look. She will, make no mistake, be calculating to whom she can manipulate and where she can bring in the most $$$$ to benefit her.

Who knows what she will present? Then again, who cares. She, like ICA can't change her spots.

 

[logicalgirl]

Easy test comparison. Three years later LE still has the garbage bag with trash in storage and the carpeting from the trunk. We already know the trash in the bag does not smell because of JB's motion that SA did not protect the smell (lol) but how much do you want to bet the carpet still smells horrific? I don't think defense wants that "sniffer" evidence brought to the attention of the jury. They may ask to see it. jmo

Exactly but nonetheless - bring it on Baez!!!:floorlaugh: