What's in the Minds of Her Mother, Father, Brother Right Now?

[grandmaj]

Do not start talking about other posters or their opinions. Do not personalize. Voice your opinions but do not talk about how others feel just because you disagree. That isn't going to fly. Talk about how what you believe. Not what others believe or feel. I have not seen one person say they hate the Anthonys yet I do see people accusing them of hating the Anthonys. That is not how we roll here.

 

[Just K]

Let's see, the first Charity is Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. Now, what exactly do they do? Make t-shitrs, missing posters, bracelets, organize poker runs for missing children? How many other groups already do the exact same thing? How many of those groups can claim one child found because of any effort on their part?

Across the country there are already laws for Grandparents Rights. What will be different about their organization? Where will the money go and what can the A's say or do to promote or advance changes (what changes?) in re: to this issue (Grandparents Rights)? And Caylee's Law: A woman in the middle of the country started that petition. I doubt it cost her or any of us more than a few minutes or hours of our time to get on board. Within 48 hours several lawmakers had already moved on the writing of new laws to protect children's rights. Within a week or so 32 states were already on board. There is nothing left for the A's to do there except say they support the laws. That costs nothing. Fliers can be made on a computer, downloaded and printed for minimal costs that include the cost to the person downloading and printing the fliers. The only cost to anyone making a flier is their time and the cost of electricity and some webhosting site. Plenty of free vehicles for that...think Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, and more.

I don't see the need for another repetitive non-profit. Think of all the NGOs in Haiti that stepped on each others toes and how difficult it was to coordinate a united effort to assist after the hurricane's destruction. Their time would better be used coordinating the efforts of the many groups that already exist. BUT, none of these organizations would go for that because they all want to do it their way.

 

[21merc7]

I'm still waiting to see what they have done to help missing children other than buy a fishing boat a couple of years ago.

What can they do to help grandparents of missing children? Tell them to lie to law enforcement, purposely dispose of evidence, intentionally give wrong evidence, lie on the stand, try to force the public to look for the child not themselves (that reminds me of another case on the board, btw), try to force the public to believe the child is alive when the child has been found deceased, try to force the public to believe a kidnapper is still out there? I could go on. But I will stop.

As far as them asking for certain amounts of money to be interviewed or for a book, I believe it, don't know if the amounts stated are correct, but I believe the shopping is going on. Same as JB is shopping for KC. That is the way the world works.

 

[zippitydoda]

The best way to predict the A's future is to look at their past...Right from the horse's mouth - captured by Nifter, here are CA, GA & LA, back in the early days of their Fibapalozza Free Casey media blitz:

Part1: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=player_embedded"]‪Part 1 of 4 - You Are My Sunshine - Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
Part2: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26m183ljsGg&feature=player_embedded"]‪Part 2 of 4 - You Are My Sunshine - Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case - Focus on the Family Perspective‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
Part3: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QStXw_O4v1Y&feature=player_embedded"]‪Part 3 of 4 - You Are My Sunshine - Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case - Focus on the Family Perspective‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
Part4: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhUbC7cmtFY&feature=player_embedded"]‪Part 4 of 4 - You Are My Sunshine - Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case - Focus on the Family Perspective‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

Good luck getting through all four...

I believe that FCA is soley responsible for Caylee's death. But after the fact, many people helped FCA in ways that I can not support. There are gazillions of grieving people right now - and each and everyone one of us will experience the grief of the death of a loved one in our lifetime. The A's are no more special, in deeper pain, or more worthy of sympathy. I get cranked up when I read suggestions that because some don't like what the A's have done after the fact, that we must not be a sympathic person or understand the hell that FCA put them through. That's Baloney - I understand plenty.

It's all so Solomon for me - On July 15th, CA forced herself to choose between Caylee or Casey, as she thought she could no longer have them both. Her martyrism is very deep, but it is completely self created.
All of the A's need professional mental help, not LAWYERS, but who have they chosen to have at their side since the get go, and up until today - Lawyers.

 

[whiteangora]

ITA.

Great post.

What gets me is there seems to be more hate pointed towards the Anthony's than towards Casey. :waitasec:

I just don't get it.

Well, I get it. I get it perfectly. They are the ones who cultivated and pampered their vile daughter. She took her traits from both of them, they literally taught her to lie, cheat, steal and use people. Then they turned their heads the other way and allowed her to continue on her path of destruction.
Cindy Anthony is a drama queen, she has no regard for anyone's feelings except her own. George Anthony is so shady he must see his shadow 24 hours a day.
All I have to do is remember their performances at the Morgan depositions and
that paints the picture of their characters completely. MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Casey killed Caylee! The A's did not.
They did not "cultivate" a murderer. They did not raise her to murder her child.

She was raised in the same house as LA. Who has he killed?

She is evil. She was born EVIL.

There are no perfect parents. Not all murderers come from a certain type of household.
MY hubby is one of three children. All raised in the same house, the same way. 2 have grown into great people, 1 is a lieing drughead that will steal anything that is not bolted down to get his drugs.
He is worthless.

You do the best you can with your children, they choose what they do.

 

[grandmaj]

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Perhaps more shocking was his explanation for why Anthony did not report this tragic accident to police—because her father George Anthony sexually abused her when she was eight years old. He also alleged that Casey’s brother Lee touched her when she was older but did not go as far (Neither George or Lee Anthony has ever been charged or accused of sexual abuse).

Baez told the jury that Casey Anthony had pretended for two years that she had a job and a nanny for her child, dressed up every morning for work and even created fake emails from the office, all because she was trying to protect Caylee. “Casey was raised to lie,” he said. He claimed that the family had even kept Casey’s pregnancy secret for seven months until they were forced to reveal it at a relative’s wedding.

Returning to the morning of June 16, 2008, Baez said Casey and George Anthony searched the house when they could not find Caylee, they split up outside and, when Casey came around to the backyard, she saw her father next to their above-ground pool holding Caylee’s body. He claimed George yelled at Casey that she could go to jail for the rest of her life for child neglect and her mother would never forgive her for letting this happen. Baez admitted that calling 911 would have been the right thing to do at that point, but instead Casey asked her father for help.

Baez then hit on a theme he would repeat several times during his presentation: this was not a murder, this was not manslaughter, this was a tragic accident that snowballed out of control.

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/24/tot-mom-murder-trial-defense-opening-statement/

OK so I guess at least for me I have a big elephant sitting in the middle of the room. Casey was acquitted at least in part because of the story above. So now, is it true?
Why if it is true hasn't Casey filed charges? If it is not true why is Baez not in trouble for it? The jury appeared to believe some of it. So my question is this.

Why in Heavens name hasn't anyone cleared George's name? Why hasn't he demanded that his name be cleared? I don't believe it. I believe it was trickery. But for crying out loud what business does this family have in starting another missing child foundation without an means to clear up this rumor started by Casey and her defense?

Is it true or false? Was Casey raised to lie?

 

[feddup]

It has been posted here that the Anthonys establishing businesses is good because they are helping children.

It has almost been three years since they started their foundation. Where have they been looking and what have they done to find missing children. They bought a fancy boat to locate bodies with sonar radar....which appears to be a bass fishing boat. The couple were photographed enjoying a day in the sun with it.

They licensed names...if you use them, you get sued.

These people were in serious financial trouble in June 2008. My how things have changed....really changed. They have seiously improved their financial standing in three years, doing it w/o working a day or helping a child.

Have they taken the boat out once looking for a missing child?
Just wondering.

 

[com n sense]

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Perhaps more shocking was his explanation for why Anthony did not report this tragic accident to police—because her father George Anthony sexually abused her when she was eight years old. He also alleged that Casey’s brother Lee touched her when she was older but did not go as far (Neither George or Lee Anthony has ever been charged or accused of sexual abuse).

Baez told the jury that Casey Anthony had pretended for two years that she had a job and a nanny for her child, dressed up every morning for work and even created fake emails from the office, all because she was trying to protect Caylee. “Casey was raised to lie,” he said. He claimed that the family had even kept Casey’s pregnancy secret for seven months until they were forced to reveal it at a relative’s wedding.

Returning to the morning of June 16, 2008, Baez said Casey and George Anthony searched the house when they could not find Caylee, they split up outside and, when Casey came around to the backyard, she saw her father next to their above-ground pool holding Caylee’s body. He claimed George yelled at Casey that she could go tlpo jail for the rest of her life for child neglect and her mother would never forgive her for letting this happen. Baez admitted that calling 911 would have been the right thing to do at that point, but instead Casey asked her father for he.

Baez then hit on a theme he would repeat several times during his presentation: this was not a murder, this was not manslaughter, this was a tragic accident that snowballed out of control.

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/24/tot-mom-murder-trial-defense-opening-statement/

OK so I guess at least for me I have a big elephant sitting in the middle of the room. Casey was acquitted at least in part because of the story above. So now, is it true?
Why if it is true hasn't Casey filed charges? If it is not true why is Baez not in trouble for it? The jury appeared to believe some of it. So my question is this.

Why in Heavens name hasn't anyone cleared George's name? Why hasn't he demanded that his name be cleared? I don't believe it. I believe it was trickery. But for crying out loud what business does this family have in starting another missing child foundation without an means to clear up this rumor started by Casey and her defense?

Is it true or false? Was Casey raised to lie?

There is no truth in KC. C & G lie but not to the extent KC does.
I imagine as a child she observed the benifits lying brought Cindy & ran with it.
I just need to add that to me, the whole defence they used did not make any sense at all. I still will never understand how the jury made any sense out of it.



Returning to the morning of June 16, 2008, Baez said Casey and George Anthony searched the house when they could not find Caylee, they split up outside and, when Casey came around to the backyard, she saw her father next to their above-ground pool holding Caylee’s body. He claimed George yelled at Casey that she could go tlpo jail for the rest of her life for child neglect and her mother would never forgive her for letting this happen. Baez admitted that calling 911 would have been the right thing to do at that point, but instead Casey asked her father for help.

If it was an accident ( I know it wasn't according to CMs statement after the vertict) why would KC believe she would be thrown in jail?:waitasec:
She wouldn't be thrown in jail unless it was intentional.
How did the jury believe this? How did they believe any of the defense?

 

[Chilly Willy]

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Perhaps more shocking was his explanation for why Anthony did not report this tragic accident to police—because her father George Anthony sexually abused her when she was eight years old. He also alleged that Casey’s brother Lee touched her when she was older but did not go as far (Neither George or Lee Anthony has ever been charged or accused of sexual abuse).

Baez told the jury that Casey Anthony had pretended for two years that she had a job and a nanny for her child, dressed up every morning for work and even created fake emails from the office, all because she was trying to protect Caylee. “Casey was raised to lie,” he said. He claimed that the family had even kept Casey’s pregnancy secret for seven months until they were forced to reveal it at a relative’s wedding.

Returning to the morning of June 16, 2008, Baez said Casey and George Anthony searched the house when they could not find Caylee, they split up outside and, when Casey came around to the backyard, she saw her father next to their above-ground pool holding Caylee’s body. He claimed George yelled at Casey that she could go to jail for the rest of her life for child neglect and her mother would never forgive her for letting this happen. Baez admitted that calling 911 would have been the right thing to do at that point, but instead Casey asked her father for help.

Baez then hit on a theme he would repeat several times during his presentation: this was not a murder, this was not manslaughter, this was a tragic accident that snowballed out of control.

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/24/tot-mom-murder-trial-defense-opening-statement/

OK so I guess at least for me I have a big elephant sitting in the middle of the room. Casey was acquitted at least in part because of the story above. So now, is it true?
Why if it is true hasn't Casey filed charges? If it is not true why is Baez not in trouble for it? The jury appeared to believe some of it. So my question is this.

Why in Heavens name hasn't anyone cleared George's name? Why hasn't he demanded that his name be cleared? I don't believe it. I believe it was trickery. But for crying out loud what business does this family have in starting another missing child foundation without an means to clear up this rumor started by Casey and her defense?

Is it true or false? Was Casey raised to lie?

How could George clear his name? Aside from denying the accusations under oath there is no way he can prove those things didn't happen. I think he's wise not to draw any more attention to the terrible accusations. If he did publicly deny it, there are people who would insist he's lying. His every word and nuance would be hyper-analyzed. If he blinked some people would see it as a sign he was nervous and not telling the truth.

Unfortunately, in our legal system, the defense can make any false claim they can think up in their opening with impunity.

 

[grandmaj]

I believe it is all lies also.. But can I bank on it?

What in the world can I say for certain is untrue? Was it all a lie? Is there a smidgeon of truth to it? Why did Cindy and George allow this to happen? This defense? And if it was to save their daughter and have her freed is this now a reason for me to support and believe anything they do? NO. I don't know the truth. We may never know the truth or what kind of deals were made. I know what they wanted us to hear. And it is enough for me to say I'm not buying it. And no, after 3 years of lies, half truths, stories, the verbal attacks, the Morgan deposition, the games. My sympathy dried up a long long time ago.

What am I to think about a new organization with the Anthonys as the chief officers, when I can't believe a word of anything that has happened involving them for 3 years?

 

[natsound]

It is outrageous to equalize Tim Miller with the A's. How many searches for children has he been on in all kinds of weather conditions? How many children has he found? How many children has he shed blood, sweat, and tears for? If he does draw a salary, it's so he can actually find missing children and make a difference in the world. What the hell have the A's EVER done for missing children? Oh right, bought a big expensive search boat that never gets used. We can agree to disagree, but in NO WAY is Tim Miller even remotely on the same level as the A's.

The A's are just starting their foundation. Why don't we give them a chance to make a difference?

 

[natsound]

George's name is clear, as far as I'm concerned. Thank goodness he hasn't felt the need to reiterate his innocence on the molestation claims.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I believe it is all lies also.. But can I bank on it?

What in the world can I say for certain is untrue? Was it all a lie? Is there a smidgeon of truth to it? Why did Cindy and George allow this to happen? This defense? And if it was to save their daughter and have her freed is this now a reason for me to support and believe anything they do? NO. I don't know the truth. We may never know the truth or what kind of deals were made. I know what they wanted us to hear. And it is enough for me to say I'm not buying it. And no, after 3 years of lies, half truths, stories, the verbal attacks, the Morgan deposition, the games. My sympathy dried up a long long time ago.

What am I to think about a new organization with the Anthonys as the chief officers, when I can't believe a word of anything that has happened involving them for 3 years?

George and Cindy had no control over what the defense said. George denied the accusations and Cindy's actions in comforting him later said all they needed to say, IMO. If George had spoken up to deny the accusations publicly people would have accused him of 'putting himself in the media' or being paid for the interview. People would have said that he should have been above responding to the accusations because "that's what I would have done."

As for their new foundation, just don't donate if that's the way you feel.

 

[natsound]

It has been posted here that the Anthonys establishing businesses is good because they are helping children.

It has almost been three years since they started their foundation. Where have they been looking and what have they done to find missing children. They bought a fancy boat to locate bodies with sonar radar....which appears to be a bass fishing boat. The couple were photographed enjoying a day in the sun with it.

They licensed names...if you use them, you get sued. These people were in serious financial trouble in June 2008. My how things have changed....really changed. They have seiously improved their financial standing in three years, doing it w/o working a day or helping a child.

Above in bold... is there a link for these claims?

There's nothing wrong with the A's licensing Caylee's name, so millions of others don't exploit their granddaughter. (OK.. let the snarky comments begin! )

 

[icefun]

I won't.

 

[whiteangora]

The A's are just starting their foundation. Why don't we give them a chance to make a difference?

They have already had a foundation for almost 3 years, have they made a difference? NO. The only difference might be their financial gain. They turned up (uninvited) at one missing person case and were sent home because the public does not like or trust them.
Why would they search for anybody elses child when they never lifted a finger to find Caylee? They are all about the money......they think they might get paid 450,000.00 to appear on Andersen Cooper's show! Who do they think they are? Talk about inflated egos, they are repulsive.

 

[TorisMom003]

On that horrible day years ago when Cindy and George took the car that was Casey's to use back to their home and they realized what the smell was coming from the trunk they knew that someone had died and had at one time been placed in the trunk. Cindy had been in phone contact with Casey almost every single day that she had left the home to play house with Tony so Cindy and George knew that Casey was ok. Instead of calling police immediately to report a crime had obviously happened they decided to talk to Casey first. Cindy admits to cleaning out the car and looking for Casey to get answers. George was told to go to work, Cindy would take care of it, and George did as he always did.....followed Cindy's orders. Cindy finds Casey thanks to the help of Amy and proceeds to demand to see Caylee. Casey refuses to give in to Cindy so the first 911 call is made to prove to Casey that Cindy is serious this time. That doesn't work, Casey still refuses to take Cindy to where Caylee is or allow anyone else to go to where Caylee is. The second 911 call is made, another attempt by Cindy to force Casey to tell her where Caylee is. Still not getting the results that Cindy wants she pushes it even further. Casey then "admits" that Caylee had been "kidnapped" by a non existant babysitter. THIS is the point that it sinks in to Cindy. Cindy now knows the truth, Caylee is dead and the smell coming from the trunk is because Caylee was the one placed in there after she died. We then have the frantic third 911 call.

Cindy and George both knew that Casey lied about everything. Cindy and George both knew that Casey had no job, no babysitter and stole from anyone at anytime. Cindy knew that Casey was a threat to Caylee as evidenced by her seeing a counselor to figure out what to do. Could Cindy and George have taken Caylee away from Casey? IMO yes they could have. It would have been very easy for them to change the locks on the house while Casey was "at work" one night when they had Caylee. What could Casey have done at that point? Call the police? And say what? Casey had no where else to go and take Caylee with her. I seriously doubt that any police officer would have allowed her to take a small child out with her in the middle of the night when the child was already asleep in her own bed with a mother that had been out drinking. Cindy and George did not do whatever they could have done to protect Caylee, their main concern was to not upset Casey. In the end Caylee paid the price and yet they all seem to make money off of a dead child that none of them really truly cared about.

Cindy sent "her people" out in those woods to look for Caylee. This was before Caylee was found, before either Cindy or George admitted to anyone that Caylee was dead. Dominick C knew exactly what he was looking for in those videos, he even says on tape that she is in a black trash bag. Now how would he know this unless he was told this by the person that sent him out there in the first place? Who sent him out there? The one that called him her rock, the one that sent "her people" out there to find Caylee, Cindy.

When Tim M was called in to look for Caylee he confronted (maybe a bad choice of word there) Casey with a map and asked her to mark the spot that they should be looking at. George was all for Casey doing it, Cindy was not. George had a friend there to offer support at some point. The friend pointed down the hall to Casey's room and made a comment about the b!tch not talking.

Cindy knew that Caylee was dead. George knew that Caylee was dead. Neither did the right thing in demanding Casey to tell them what she had done with Caylee. Neither of them told the truth to police, the media or anyone else that wanted to know where Caylee was. The truth was easy to find, they only had to ask one person. They decided that Casey was more important than Caylee was. I wonder how that is working out for them now.

MOO

 

[What'sThatClue]

Above in bold... is there a link for these claims?

There's nothing wrong with the A's licensing Caylee's name, so millions of others don't exploit their granddaughter. (OK.. let the snarky comments begin! )

I agree, there's nothing wrong with the A's licensing Caylee's name so she is not exploited. By anyone, including the A's.

Actually, the Kidfinders network purchased the boat. Here's a couple links to that:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html

On Saturday, George and Cindy Anthony boarded a boat called the S.S. Caylee Marie, which is labeled an extreme search and rescue vessel.

I note that GA states that this boat is now his "life's work".

http://www.wesh.com/news/19002036/detail.html

George and Cindy Anthony unveiled a new search boat named for Caylee. They also unveiled plans for a Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation they both will spearhead.

The boat was built by the Anthony's long time ally Dennis Milstead of Kid Finder's network with $30,000 donated from the Never Lose Hope Foundation.

"They funded the boat and an ATV to start us out with the search group," Milstead said.

There's a photo on the KF website (under Extreme Search and Rescue) of GA in the boat.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I agree, there's nothing wrong with the A's licensing Caylee's name so she is not exploited. By anyone, including the A's.

Actually, the Kidfinders network purchased the boat. Here's a couple links to that:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html



http://www.wesh.com/news/19002036/detail.html



There's a photo on the KF website (under Extreme Search and Rescue) of GA in the boat.

Thank you for that information. I was wondering how the A's purchased the boat when their foundation only raised ....what was it, less than $3,000?