Where is Madeleine? Where is she?

[Salem]

Cali - I sent the email last night. And did you notice? Many of the news reports today say the PLE will be searching near the church and possibly at the church. Now, I'm sure it wasn't just because I emailed them, others must have suspicions also. But I really think if they search that church thoroughly, they will find little Maddie.

Salem

 

[Salem]

For me, its the only reason I can think of that makes any sense for moving the body so many weeks later.....

Salem

 

[CaliKid]

I hope so. I had this dream last night that they found Madeleine there and after forensic testing there was no doubt that strong sedatives had been administered and her parents were the perps. At that point, despite interference from the British government, the parents were arrested and tried. I woke up before I found out what happened next.

 

[aussie_mum]

Just having a thought..... under what conditions does a body become 'mummified'? Cool, dark, dry places? Perhaps a vault or similar in a church?? Then she was moved explaining how she could be moved with no major ickiness and why the hair was able to come out?

 

[missacorah]

Another grave that was already prepared would be the perfect place to dispose of a body. How many funerals if any have there been there since the disappearance I wonder?

 

[MeddleGuru]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007420470,00.html

"The target for the police excavations is a new pedestrianised area outside the Church of Our Lady of Light in the resort of Praia da Luz — where the youngster vanished from the family’s holiday apartment in May.

"Detectives believe Maddie — who would now be aged four — was killed accidentally and her body left temporarily in a roadworks trench.

"It has since been filled in. Cops will be hunting for evidence Maddie was there but do NOT expect it to be her final resting place."
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Note: the article does say the police are operating only on a theory.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007420470,00.html

"The target for the police excavations is a new pedestrianised area outside the Church of Our Lady of Light in the resort of Praia da Luz — where the youngster vanished from the family’s holiday apartment in May.

"Detectives believe Maddie — who would now be aged four — was killed accidentally and her body left temporarily in a roadworks trench.

"It has since been filled in. Cops will be hunting for evidence Maddie was there but do NOT expect it to be her final resting place."
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Note: the article does say the police are operating only on a theory.

Seems to be pretty specific to be simply a theory.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I was researching for another case today and ran across something very similar. The murder victim was placed in the grave but the cadaver dogs were able to distinguish because the murder victim had not been embalmed and therefore cadaver dog alerts discovered the body.

This is where my theory comes in. I think it was a premeditated murder. Knowing that Dr. K was around "dead people" on a regular basis, (According to her statement), she probably could get her hands on formaldehyde, or other type of embalming fluid. I think they killed her, then carefully bled her out, (maybe in the bath tub) and filled those syringes with embalming fluid, and that's how they kept her body from rapidly decomposing. An embalmed body can last for weeks. Heck, they had the last Pope's body displayed for almost a month before they finally buried, (crypt) him.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

This is where my theory comes in. I think it was a premeditated murder. Knowing that Dr. K was around "dead people" on a regular basis, (According to her statement), she probably could get her hands on formaldehyde, or other type of embalming fluid. I think they killed her, then carefully bled her out, (maybe in the bath tub) and filled those syringes with embalming fluid, and that's how they kept her body from rapidly decomposing. An embalmed body can last for weeks. Heck, they had the last Pope's body displayed for almost a month before they finally buried, (crypt) him.

Are you serious? Is this a real theory?

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Are you serious? Is this a real theory?

I am totally serious, but it's just MY theory, I'm sure every one will disagree, and that's okay with me. I like being different and thinking outside of the box.

How else could they keep a body around for 25 days without a stench that would call in the vultures.

 

[sleuthin4fun]

This is where my theory comes in. I think it was a premeditated murder. Knowing that Dr. K was around "dead people" on a regular basis, (According to her statement), she probably could get her hands on formaldehyde, or other type of embalming fluid. I think they killed her, then carefully bled her out, (maybe in the bath tub) and filled those syringes with embalming fluid, and that's how they kept her body from rapidly decomposing. An embalmed body can last for weeks. Heck, they had the last Pope's body displayed for almost a month before they finally buried, (crypt) him.

Seriously? I can respect all opinions but, this is really sick. I just don't see it. I do think that the parents are somehow involved but, I think it was by accidental overdose or unintentional injury and they have tried to cover it up. If they would have "bled her out" in the bath tub there would have been so much blood they could never have gotten rid of every drop. As far as a GP getting a hold of embalming fluid that would not be all that easy either. As an RN I can also tell you that as a part time GP there is no way Kate was around very many dead bodies. Why would she be? The nurses do all the care in those situations not the Dr. Very rarely are they around.

 

[Brefie]

This is where my theory comes in. I think it was a premeditated murder. Knowing that Dr. K was around "dead people" on a regular basis, (According to her statement), she probably could get her hands on formaldehyde, or other type of embalming fluid. I think they killed her, then carefully bled her out, (maybe in the bath tub) and filled those syringes with embalming fluid, and that's how they kept her body from rapidly decomposing. An embalmed body can last for weeks. Heck, they had the last Pope's body displayed for almost a month before they finally buried, (crypt) him.

Don't you think they would have been arrested by now?

 

[Seeker]

I'm not ready to crucify these parents until it's proven that Madeliene is indeed dead.

We know that strangers abduct children from their beds when they see an opportunity arise. Danielle vanDam is a case in point as is Elizabeth Smart. We know these things really do happen.

If someone were watching this family then they would know when the best time to snatch Madeleine was. The parents have been watched consistantly since that first night. I don't believe they would have been able to take anything larger than Kate's purse anywhere without it being noticed and checked on.

I'm going to sit and wait until it's proven this child really is dead.
BTW I read somewhere that Portugues papers are known for citing rumor and innuendo as fact....I don't know if that's true, but it could be.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Seriously? I can respect all opinions but, this is really sick. I just don't see it. I do think that the parents are somehow involved but, I think it was by accidental overdose or unintentional injury and they have tried to cover it up. If they would have "bled her out" in the bath tub there would have been so much blood they could never have gotten rid of every drop. As far as a GP getting a hold of embalming fluid that would not be all that easy either. As an RN I can also tell you that as a part time GP there is no way Kate was around very many dead bodies. Why would she be? The nurses do all the care in those situations not the Dr. Very rarely are they around.

WELL...she SAID she was.

 

[sleuthin4fun]

WELL...she SAID she was.

I know thats what she said, I just don't believe it but, there are many things she has said that I don't believe.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I am totally serious, but it's just MY theory, I'm sure every one will disagree, and that's okay with me. I like being different and thinking outside of the box.

How else could they keep a body around for 25 days without a stench that would call in the vultures.

Okay, I just want to go through it with you if you agree. Do you think that they planned the entire trip simply to murder her? Do you think they brought formaldehide with them? Don't you think that they did some sort of forensic testing in that room and that bleeding out an entire body's worth of blood in a bathtub would be pretty easy to pick up just using luminol? Wouldn't burying her be enough to keep the smell contained?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I know thats what she said, I just don't believe it but, there are many things she has said that I don't believe.

Even IF she was around that many, there's absolutely no way that there could be enough transfer after that amount of time that would be required to leave the samples that were found. And this would be assuming that she disregarded EVERY single step that is required for treating and/or handling deceased bodies and having ZERO personal hygene practices.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Don't you think they would have been arrested by now?

As opposed to accidentally killing her? Why would it be different. If you have ever watched a mortician, bleeding a body out is very quite simple. It is takes is a small catheter inserted into a major artery. The catheter has a hose on it that leads to a drain. There is no splatter, it's very clean. No more mess than drawing blood for lab work.

 

[Jdee]

WELL...she SAID she was.

Actually that statement came from someone out of the Mirror forum where they 'heard' it from somewhere else (I know because I originally posted it here). If anybody has a link to where Kate actually said it I want to read it.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Okay, I just want to go through it with you if you agree. Do you think that they planned the entire trip simply to murder her?

Yes.

Do you think they brought formaldehide with them?

Yes.

Don't you think that they did some sort of forensic testing in that room and that bleeding out an entire body's worth of blood in a bathtub would be pretty easy to pick up just using luminol?

They could have used a hose, (catheter tubing) long enough to slide deep into the drain. She was very small, a couple plastic bag over the top of the insertion sight could keep any blood from splattering. Easy clean up, a couple showers and any trace of blood in the pipes would be swept away. .

Wouldn't burying her be enough to keep the smell contained?

They could have done that anyway, but I think she was stored in a cool dry place...