Where is Madeleine? Where is she?

[englishleigh]

There has been absolutely nothing in the media about any sort of black bag. So either there was no bag, it has nothing to do with Madeleine or it might and it's being kept a secret (checking DNA evidence on it).

That's what I thought, it was just rumor. Was just wondering if anyone else had heard this b/c it was interesting, if true.

 

[Texana]

Making sense is not something that is abundant on this forum!
The Mc's left their kids by themselves so they must have killed one of them as well- it's ridiculous I know :doh:
Not to mention no evidence against them..

No, not that.

The McCanns left their children alone that evening, showing a definite disregard for their well-being, and a willingness to put their personal goals or needs ahead of their children.

There are dozens of foreseeable accidents that can happen to children that age left alone--with or without an unlocked door.

If they could put their needs ahead of a living child, they most certainly could put their needs ahead of one that was dead.

Again, I don't think the McCanns deliberately killed their child. As I see it, three possibilities:

1) Maddie was abducted by a kidnapper who deliberately chose her over easier targets, and within a very small window of time
2) Maddie wandered off via an unlocked door, and then was either abducted (a stretch) or injured and hidden/buried somehow
3) Maddie suffered some kind of injury resulting in death, including something related to a medicinal dose, and rather than lose their licenses/livelihood and remaining children, and knowing they are well-meaning and caring parents overall, her parents chose to cover up her death.

Occam's Razor says the most likely/simplest explanation works. Which one of these is the most likely then?

I don't want to believe the parents did #3, but I will point out that most of their behavior after the fact backs up #3.

 

[Shazza]

No, not that.

The McCanns left their children alone that evening, showing a definite disregard for their well-being, and a willingness to put their personal goals or needs ahead of their children.

There are dozens of foreseeable accidents that can happen to children that age left alone--with or without an unlocked door.

If they could put their needs ahead of a living child, they most certainly could put their needs ahead of one that was dead.

Again, I don't think the McCanns deliberately killed their child. As I see it, three possibilities:

1) Maddie was abducted by a kidnapper who deliberately chose her over easier targets, and within a very small window of time
2) Maddie wandered off via an unlocked door, and then was either abducted (a stretch) or injured and hidden/buried somehow
3) Maddie suffered some kind of injury resulting in death, including something related to a medicinal dose, and rather than lose their licenses/livelihood and remaining children, and knowing they are well-meaning and caring parents overall, her parents chose to cover up her death.

Occam's Razor says the most likely/simplest explanation works. Which one of these is the most likely then?

I don't want to believe the parents did #3, but I will point out that most of their behavior after the fact backs up #3.

Wish I could take the credit for this post, well said Texana,:clap: it is exactly how I feel. I wish I didnt, as I always give the benefit of doubt, but in this case, there have been to many lies and cover ups which makes me think the McCanns are involved.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Making sense is not something that is abundant on this forum!
The Mc's left their kids by themselves so they must have killed one of them as well- it's ridiculous I know :doh:
Not to mention no evidence against them..

Excuse me. Do we have to go over this YET AGAIN???????

IF you have any sort of problem with the members of this forum talking about, speculating about or forming opinions about anything having to do with this or any other case, PLEASE STOP READING it. You will not make any other statements about the members on this forum whether you believe they make sense or not. I honestly don't want to have to have this discussion with you again.:doh: :banghead:

 

[CaliKid]

No, not that.

The McCanns left their children alone that evening, showing a definite disregard for their well-being, and a willingness to put their personal goals or needs ahead of their children.

There are dozens of foreseeable accidents that can happen to children that age left alone--with or without an unlocked door.

If they could put their needs ahead of a living child, they most certainly could put their needs ahead of one that was dead.

Again, I don't think the McCanns deliberately killed their child. As I see it, three possibilities:

1) Maddie was abducted by a kidnapper who deliberately chose her over easier targets, and within a very small window of time
2) Maddie wandered off via an unlocked door, and then was either abducted (a stretch) or injured and hidden/buried somehow
3) Maddie suffered some kind of injury resulting in death, including something related to a medicinal dose, and rather than lose their licenses/livelihood and remaining children, and knowing they are well-meaning and caring parents overall, her parents chose to cover up her death.

Occam's Razor says the most likely/simplest explanation works. Which one of these is the most likely then?

I don't want to believe the parents did #3, but I will point out that most of their behavior after the fact backs up #3.

Apart from the strange behavior on the part of the parents leading my away from #1, your explanation is exactly why I don't believe it was an abduction. Why take Madeleine when a younger, lighter, easier-to-carry child was closer to the door (not sleeping between two other children)? Someone wanting to kidnap a child would most likely grab and run, going for the easiest to get.

 

[southcitymom]

I honestly believe that if Madeline was killed in the appartment - the body would have been found by now - the Mccaans would have made a mistake somewhere along the line in the aftermath

I still think that Maddy was taken out of the resort almost immediatley - and by the time the police got down to doing something she was miles away

for me the abduction theory still makes the most sense

These are my thoughts as well. For now at least.

 

[AfterMidnight]

Apart from the strange behavior on the part of the parents leading my away from #1, your explanation is exactly why I don't believe it was an abduction. Why take Madeleine when a younger, lighter, easier-to-carry child was closer to the door (not sleeping between two other children)? Someone wanting to kidnap a child would most likely grab and run, going for the easiest to get.

Why take Madeleine? Perhaps Madeleine is the beautiful child that was being stalked. The others were a younger boy and his twin sister. Madeleine was just the right age IMO.

 

[SleuthMom]

I don't think she was abducted but the possibility is there, specially if someone has been watching the idiotic behavior of the parents of leaving those three toddlers by themselves for a whole week while they dined with friends. It was like an open invitation.

Since the timeline given by the parents does not make any sense, and their behavior after the "abduction" is so odd in so many aspects, I personally do not think she was sedated but died as a consequence of one of the parents losing their temper.

 

[Rino]

I deleted my post- no use arguing- (plus in the mean time I saw a mod saying about arguing soooo...)

I really think it's a witch hunt... the whole case... not just TWS..

I'm not sure what happened- maybe Maddie woke up wandered off, someone took her... maybe someone ran over her, panicked...I dunno, I just don't think it's that plausible that the parents killed her and somehow got rid of her body-
I'm on the fence- leaning towards them being innocent.

Some one ran over her?!?! Yeah, thats a real possability. A hit and run in a crowded resort with no tell tell signs while she was in bed for the night, with the adults making bed checks constantly is more likely than the parents playing a role in her disappearance.....h'okay. Remember MK said in no uncertain terms there is no way Maddie walked out on her own. How about alien abduction


You're on the fence leaning toward innocent but those of us leaning towards guilty are on a witch hunt??
Since when is does trying to find the killer, or abductor of a child make anyone bad?

Liking someone is not an alabi.

 

[AfterMidnight]

How about alien abduction

Actually, there may be an element of the mystical here. A while back on one thread or another I said Madeleine had an unearthly beauty. I believe that may be one reason someone possibly wanted her.

I'm still solidly on the fence watching the circus.

 

[AfterMidnight]

OOPS! I meant media circus.

 

[ceeaura]

Actually, there may be an element of the mystical here. A while back on one thread or another I said Madeleine had an unearthly beauty. I believe that may be one reason someone possibly wanted her.

I'm still solidly on the fence watching the circus.

Circus is what it sure has become.Which is sickening and sad.I don't think we are ever going to find out what happened to Madeleine.

 

[Rino]

Circus is what it sure has become.Which is sickening and sad.I don't think we are ever going to find out what happened to Madeleine.

I fear we will not find out either, because of the media circus I believe the McCanns very cleverly orchestrated.

 

[SleuthMom]

I fear we will not find out either, because of the media circus I believe the McCanns very cleverly orchestrated.

You're right Rino.

 

[BethInAK]

Actually, there may be an element of the mystical here. A while back on one thread or another I said Madeleine had an unearthly beauty. I believe that may be one reason someone possibly wanted her.

To me, she looks like a cute four year old.

 

[Rino]

Actually, there may be an element of the mystical here. A while back on one thread or another I said Madeleine had an unearthly beauty. I believe that may be one reason someone possibly wanted her.

I'm still solidly on the fence watching the circus.

LOL...you're good.

You claim she had unearthly beauty,and now can defend alien abduction because its mystical. You missed your calling

 

[Texana]

Circus is what it sure has become.Which is sickening and sad.I don't think we are ever going to find out what happened to Madeleine.

When the test results are finally made public, if the DNA sample is a reasonably close match to Maddie's--particularly if her hair is there, as that will be easy to test no matter how many months have passed--and it contains decomposition chemicals, then sadly, we will at least know for certain what happened to Madeleine. What we may never know is why or how.

And her parents, if they don't already know it, they have enough chemistry and biology backgrounds to understand that as well.

 

[ceeaura]

I have been having this nagging thought in the back of my head and I could not quite figure out what it was.Well I just had a :doh: moment.

It looks in pictures as if Madeleine has had her hair cut at a salon.

I have hair from each of my 3 children from their first hair cut tied in a ribbon and it is placed in their baby book.

I wonder if Kate did that.If she did that would be a huge help in the DNA.

I don't think I have ever met anyone who did not save hair from babys first cut.

 

[Texana]

To me, she looks like a cute four year old.

Me, too. It's such a precious age.

 

[Seeker]

No, not that.

The McCanns left their children alone that evening, showing a definite disregard for their well-being, and a willingness to put their personal goals or needs ahead of their children.

I read somewhere that this happens a lot. It's not just people on holiday/vacation either. It happens here in the states all the time. We just never hear about it until/if something happens.

There are dozens of foreseeable accidents that can happen to children that age left alone--with or without an unlocked door.

Yes, but these same accidents can happen with parent in the next room too.

If they could put their needs ahead of a living child, they most certainly could put their needs ahead of one that was dead.

I don't think it was their "needs" so much as it was probably rather normal for them and the other adults they were with. Jayelles at FFJ said they did better by checking on their kids than the door listeners.

Again, I don't think the McCanns deliberately killed their child. As I see it, three possibilities:

1) Maddie was abducted by a kidnapper who deliberately chose her over easier targets, and within a very small window of time

For me this is the most likely option.

2) Maddie wandered off via an unlocked door, and then was either abducted (a stretch) or injured and hidden/buried somehow
3) Maddie suffered some kind of injury resulting in death, including something related to a medicinal dose, and rather than lose their licenses/livelihood and remaining children, and knowing they are well-meaning and caring parents overall, her parents chose to cover up her death.

Occam's Razor says the most likely/simplest explanation works. Which one of these is the most likely then?

I don't want to believe the parents did #3, but I will point out that most of their behavior after the fact backs up #3.