Where was Shawn all day Tues 28th

[Wise Old Owl]

I think it was said that he had to be there no later than 7:00, but on some mornings if he was needed earlier, the boss would call the night before... ? Anyone have that link?

Check BD's press conference - I think that is where she explained all that.

 

[sreshowtime]

Someone help me out here, please?

Regardless of any cell pings....after SA left work on Mon morning just after 6 A.M... where his boss/coworkers confirmed he was there, When is the next time anyone actually saw him other than family or BD ??
Anyone recall??
How much time on his hands may SA have actually had....

 

[TexasGiGi]

He quit work on Monday. On Tuesday, he drove BD to work at 6:30am and was gone afternoon, what time, idk. I guess it depends on which version we believe.

 

[katydid23]

Someone help me out here, please?

Regardless of any cell pings....after SA left work on Mon morning just after 6 A.M... where his boss/coworkers confirmed he was there, When is the next time anyone actually saw him other than family or BD ??
Anyone recall??
How much time on his hands may SA have actually had....

Shawn SAYS that he arrived at his mother's house at around 8 am Monday and his uncle can verify that. Who knows though.

 

[TexasGiGi]

I must be tired, how did I see Tuesday instead of Monday in your post, sreshowtime? lol My eyes fooled me.

 

[sreshowtime]

thanks

Didn't BD ride with co worker Tues morning, too?? She said she did Monday & I guess LE verified that.

Drat I'm gonna have to research back...
argh

 

[Jacie Estes]

SA had the car all day........that part bothers me and didn't work............
a full day to play out his fantasies????? get high????

sexting with another girl????
making more videos????
'visiting' another girl????

a thought....if SA threw A under the bus in his last interview to please BD..what would he do to please another girl that we may not yet know about????

 

[hollyblue]

I so want the hosts tomorrow night to ask him about his whereabouts on Tuesday and then follow up with the question, if anyone else was around to confirm it. No one has ask this....why? Is it the elephant in the room LE knows of and it's being deliberately avoided? Hopefully, someone will get on the chat and ask.

 

[SmoothOperator]

BBM It is very interesting what you brought up. When did BD become aware that she would have to arrange for a ride to work that Monday? It would be important to determine how planned this all was.

Curious you bring up an excellent point.. The entire ride to work on Monday the 27th does seem a bit odd.. I mean for goodness sake we now know that Shawn never intended to work that day at all and per himself in the BTH interview he says that he went to his work that morning to turn in the 2 pair of coveralls{one pair BJD washed for him just the nite before}.. So exactly why is it that Shawn on a day he knew he was going to the workplace to turn in his "uniform"..what could possibly his reason given for of all days of his entire career why would he need to go in early on that day?...the day he was just returning his "uniforms"{again this is stated by him in the BTH interview}..why would he need to go to the trouble of having BJD arrange another ride to work on a day that he didn't even intend to work so the start time of the job that day was absolutely irrelevant?..we also know that he spoke to no one and infact "looked straight through his supervisor as he left the workplace"..so it wouldn't be due to him needing to get there at that specific time in order to speak to a supervisor to inform him he'd no longer be working..we know this never happened.. So why make BJD go to the trouble to arrange a ride when it so obviously was not a necessity in the least especially on that Monday the 27th...

I want to throw one other piece of info into this mix that will make it all the more questionable{atleast it did for me}.

BJD on several occasions has alluded to the fact that her ride that morning of the 27th was running late for some reason.. She has stated this and used this in several different instances..In her presser on 1/31 she says that her ride was running late..it was 6:20am and usually her ride would have been there by now to get her.. But that day the ride wasn't..She then says that she is the one that places a call from her cell phone that morning of the 27th{the call that LE make reference to in the affidavit that pinged from that same tower that Shawn's did just a very few mins later..proving that Shawn's cell was there in the immediate vicinity of the home just as BJD's phone was}..She says that at 6:20 she phones the ride to see where she is..she leaves it at that in her presser and follows it by stating that after this call and while waiting for the ride to arrive to get her that it is at this time that BJD actually does the "peek in" on Hailey in her room w/the TV on..the one that was just to "ease her mind"{bologna IMO and this was added in later after several interrogations..suddenly BJD began adding this "peek in" to her timeline of that morning of the 27th}..

That was all that we knew about BJD's "ride" for the morning of the 27th until Billie's last BTH show.. In that show BJD volunteered further info about her "ride" for that morning by stating that actually her ride had totally and completely forgotten all about Billie.. That her "ride" didn't remember a need to pick up Billie and that infact when Billie made that call at 6:20am on the 27th to check and see where her "ride" was.. Her "ride" was already almost to work and infact had to turn around and go back to CCity to get Billie that morning..

Any other time..any other person besides BJD and that would sound believable{not likely when the ride was just arranged hours before on the nite prior[again per Billie..she said she'd find out the nite before that SA woudl be due to work early and thats when she'd arrange her "ride"]..so no..not likely.. but it could possibly happen}..but added in with every other thing unimaginable..unexplainable..and unlikely as hell...well..it just makes me really really wonder all the more..question just how odd and strange of all days for that to happen on...I mean how many strange coincidences are we supposed to allow these two ppl?? The count is way too high IMO for it to be believable anymore..jmo

So..what do I think could possibly be more the accurate and truthful account of that morning of the 27th?.. I think it is very possible that this "ride" knew nothing of their needing to give Billie a ride until that 6:20am phone call where she had to turn around and go back to CCity to pick up BJD.. That's what I am leaning towards being the truth.

Some may say but wouldn't the ride have told LE? My answer would most likely that they would have told them they got a call at 620 asking for a spur of the moment ride into work.. Whose there to say that they didn't? LE is not going to tell us that..are they?..no they're not..But what has LE told us? They have straight up said that Billie and Shawn have given numerous inconsistent statements to their actions during the times in question..LE has said this numerous times and IMO this "inconsistency" about BJD and her ride that morning{which IMO is just another bold faced lie from this woman's mouth}..this very well IMO is one of the many many many inconsistencies that BJD has told..stated..and clung to throughout this investigation...

IMO it will all fit perfectly together one day..All of these inconsistent statements and claims that we find one by one to not be accurate or true and infact downright lies to mislead..one day we will see how it all fits together and unfortunately will give a clear enough picture of what truly happened within these hours to our little Hailey.. It's happening little by little and it will continue to happen until all the pieces..or enough of the pieces are found for LE and the DA to tell the story of what happened to innocent little Hailey...


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[yllek]

thanks

Didn't BD ride with co worker Tues morning, too?? She said she did Monday & I guess LE verified that.

Drat I'm gonna have to research back...
argh

In her 1/31 press conference and time line, she said that Shawn drove her to work on Tuesday.

Tuesday, December 28

06:30am: Shawn and Billie leave the house.

07:00am: Billie arrives at work.

 

[iwonders]

Read somewhere, I think it may have been BD's last interview, that SA told his grandmother on Tuesday around noon that Hailey was missing, and that it was before BD had left work or reported it. Major information, I think. Does anyone else remember reading that?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Read somewhere, I think it may have been BD's last interview, that SA told his grandmother on Tuesday around noon that Hailey was missing, and that it was before BD had left work or reported it. Major information, I think. Does anyone else remember reading that?

Yes you are correct.. Billie stated on BTH that LE had told her that Shawn Adkins had informed his mother at noon on Tuesday December 28th that Hailey was "missing"..and Billie quickly added that this indeed was before she was aware that her daughter was "missing"..

IMO with LE stating this there could only be one explanation for exactly how/why SA was able to have this knowledge and relay this info to his mom at noon on the 28th..and of course that is the obvious..that he is involved with Hailey's "disappearance"

 

[grandmaj]

This thread is going Off topic. Please stay on track about the opening post. Where was he on Tuesday.

 

[Soulmagent]

So at 7am they were both at the Hospital.
If they were both involved this could be important. I dont think they were both involved but for Haileys sake I will explore this option.

Is there anyway to dispose of a body at a hospital that Shawn and Billie could have had access prior to 7am. This is the only time they were together Tuesday before the report was made.

 

[passionflower]

There has to be a BIG reason to keep info 'secret' about Tues.
BD has an alibi.......
but SA was at moms, grandma's no work and the rest is secret.......

 

[sreshowtime]

yeah there is something kind of bothering me about exactly where SA was from 6:30 ish Mon morning until when ever someone other than family or BD saw him Tuesday, after SA must have shown up in CCty after Hailey reported missing.
just thinking

 

[hollyblue]

snipped from Billie's Timeline 1-31-11 Presser:

[BBM]

Tuesday morning on the 28th, Shawn and I both got up around 5:30. We left the house together about 6:20 to go to work. It’s not unusual for Shawn to take me to work. He always has to be there by 7:00. Sometimes he had to go in earlier but he was always told the night before and I would arrange to get another ride on those days.

He dropped me off at the hospital at 7:00. Around noon I called DD on my cell phone I had left at home. He told me Hailey wasn’t home yet so I asked him to text her friend, see if Hailey was there, tell her to go ahead and tell her to come home. He called me back within a few minutes to say that Hailey hadn’t been there and hadn’t stayed the night there. I then told him to walk over to Clint’s to check with him – Clint’s phone was broke. So he walked over there and called me back. Told me that Naomi said Hailey had been over there for a minute on Monday but didn’t say the night. I told DD to give the phone to Clint. After telling Clint how worried I was, I told him I was going to get a ride home and report Hailey missing to the police. I asked him to call the PD and let them know that I was coming. He agreed to make the call but for some reason he never did. My sister-in-law gave me a ride home from Snyder to CCity. I stopped at the house first to make sure Hailey hadn’t come back home. Grabbed my cell phone, started texting Hailey’s friends while my sister-in-law took me around to a couple of their houses before going to the police station. I got home from the police station around 3:00. Shawn called me on my cell and talked to D who told him what all was going on. So Shawn left and got the house around 4:00, with me and D. Officer Alexander arrived shortly after to take a more detailed report from me.

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BD is very vague about SA's whereabouts on the 28th ... :waitasec:

Start w/ a check on Shawn's cell phone pings when he called Billie's cell ...

Hopefully, LE knows where SA was on the 28th and we will know soon.

Is it just me or does anyone question why it would take a small town police force a few HOURS to follow up on a missing child and gather more info? Something is missing from this scenario. BD did all her "searching" prior to even reporting HD's missing to LE. She notified LE at 2 and it was after 4 when LE did the follow up?

Shawn also said that the reason he called BD's cell phone that afternoon was because he called the hospital and was told BD left....could this be when he was told HD was missing? Not that I don't think this was part of their orchestrated plan, but the answer to how he knew before the call to DD. Why did SA wait so long after the hospital call to try and reach BD's cell? Surely, DD was in the vicinity of that cell phone til BD took it in an attempt to locate HD. ??? Oooh those cell phone records...:banghead::banghead:

 

[hollyblue]

Reading Billie's PC again...

Why did SA call Billie around 3PM? How did he know to call her cell?

And DD answers the phone fills him in about Hailey missing. This I find as odd..
Did SA ask to speak to Billie or say to DD " Let me talk to your Mother right now"...

First Billie takes what SA says about Hailey spending the night without confirmation and now SA takes DD recap of what is happening....Id want more confirmation...I'd want to talk to them myself not a third party telling me...

Then Billie says he left.... was she thinking left his work at that time? (the 31st she learns he quit his job)

I remember Billie saying something to the effect that SA was angry/upset/ when he first arrived (cant remember her exact wording) but then he became supportive toward her.

I thought BD found out on Wednesdy, Dec 29th that SA had quit his job..thru LE. ???

ETA: Thanks for the reminder about SA being upset with BD upon arriving....I had forgotten about that.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

In the next sentence she said "It’s not unusual for Shawn to take me to work. He always has to be there by seven. Sometimes he had to go in earlier, but he was always told the night before, and I would arrange to get another ride on those days."

Which means that 7AM was normal start time for him as well and there was nothing unusual about him dropping her off. It would also be consistent with Monday, where she said that she got a lift to work from a friend, because he went in early that day.

A more astute question would be why him going in earlier on monday didn't raise her curiosity more. After all, it was the monday after the christmas weekend, and presumably he wouldn't have been told that the night before that he had to be early that day as she says would typically happen.

BBM- Ceratinly NOT defending BD or SA but being the Monday after the Christmas weekend in oilfield country means absolutely nothing. Christmas Day for some oil field workers is not a day off. The oil field runs 24/7, 365 days a year around these parts.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Is it just me or does anyone question why it would take a small town police force a few HOURS to follow up on a missing child and gather more info? Something is missing from this scenario. BD did all her "searching" prior to even reporting HD's missing to LE. She notified LE at 2 and it was after 4 when LE did the follow up?

Shawn also said that the reason he called BD's cell phone that afternoon was because he called the hospital and was told BD left....could this be when he was told HD was missing? Not that I don't think this was part of their orchestrated plan, but the answer to how he knew before the call to DD. Why did SA wait so long after the hospital call to try and reach BD's cell? Surely, DD was in the vicinity of that cell phone til BD took it in an attempt to locate HD. ??? Oooh those cell phone records...:banghead::banghead:

Above BBM.. IMO there is alot missing..or better yet alot told in bits and pieces that drastically change and/or get completely left out..later negated or contradicted by these very ppl who are the ones that are making the statements... OBFUSCATING TO THE MAXX!!

{and no you're not the only one who finds this as well as many other aspects extremely strange}..but back to Tuesday the 28th and the odd way that we have been lead to believe things played out.. First upon Billie learning from DD that Hailey was not at MB or Clints{nor had she ever even made it to either destination}..never has it made an dot of sense that Billie had to call her brother..to get him to call his wife{BJD's sis-in-law}and ask her to come give Billie a ride from the hospital back to CCity..not when Shawn had Billie's car and according to them both Billie at that time was still firmly under the impression that Shawn still had his job at WSI..therefor would have been at work at this time on Tues 28th when Billie needed a ride home..Especially when WSi is literally within 2miles of Billie's work..He would have been the closest..the most convenient..and IMO the first that she would want to reach out to for several reasons..1)being the most obvious that the first person you'd reach out to for a ride or just to be there for support..it would be your significant other that you would contact right off the bat..and more importantly 2) being that it was Shawn that last saw Hailey and Shawn was the one that Hailey had told of her plans and destinations..common sense and logic says you would want to speak to this person ASAP before ANYONE ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD INCLUDING LE..for the simple reason that Hailey did give this info in passing..as she was leaving the house..rather than it being written down somewhere or leaving it in a text or in a voicemail..not having the plans on any of those type things that could easily be re-checked along with knowing that a man could easily mistake one little girlfriend of her's for another..what if it wasn't MB and upon asking him was he sure?..suddenly he remembered it was Mary "Anne" instead of Mary B..but she never did this..it never crossed her mind..and even stranger was the claim that BJD says that she spent a fair amount of time texting some of the friends asking was Hailey there..as well as having SIL take her around personally to some of the friends homes to check to see if Hailey was there..but never once did she text or call MB's house..never once to she go to MB's house..

Of all friends homes wouldn't you naturally go to the one that your daughter said that she was going to be at?? IMO yes definitely you would..You would want to hear and see their answers and reactions for yourself when you asked had she been there at all? You'd want to speak to a parent to verify that it was a fact that Hailey had never shown up at that home.. This IMO has always been extremely strange as well..Billie never visits or calls MB's house or parents{but does multiple other friends}..nor does she once even contact Shawn to ensure that he heard the correct name of where Hailey was going..and stranger yet the fact that Billie didn't call her significant other right off the bat..nor to give her ride since he was literally within 2 miles of her work..it makes zero sense IMO because there infact are very good and valid reasons that BJD did not do this..we just do not know what those reasons are yet..but there's definitely reason why..it was not planned that way for a reason..

Where was Shawn from 7am til around 4pm on Tuesday the 28th? We know he wasn't at WSI working.. But we know pretty much nothing else..we did learn last week that LE has told BJD that Shawn told his mom on noon of that day(Tues 28}that Hailey was missing{hours before Billie supposedly knew}..does that mean that he was with his mom at her home in Big Spring at noon on Tues 28th? I thought that mom went into work at 8am..wouldn't she be at work? or possibly home for lunch break at noon?..and is that when her son informs her that Hailey was missing?..Did she wonder then what the heck was he sitting there doing at her home in Big Spring if Hailey had gone missing? I know my or my hubby's fam would have questioned what the hay was he doing just sitting at his mom's house over an hour away from where my child had gone missinG?

And after he informed mom I guess he just continued to stay there at his mom's all the while Hailey is missing? Because we know he doesn't go home to be with Billie til about 4pm whne she says he arrived at the house and was visibly shaken and upset{what the heck for is my question}but then she quickly adds that he then came to her side and started being supportive of her..

But back to your original question Holly{in the above BBM} where you ask about the strange rather large lapse in time between Billie's initial contact and reporting to LE that Hailey was missing and the follow up at the home to take a more detailed report..2pm BJD says she went to police station to report Hailey missing..and then 4pm when its been said LE was at the home to get more detailed report..well to make that lapse in time even larger Shawn Adkins told us last week on BTH that not only was LE not there when he got to the house about 4pm but that they were not there any time immediately following his getting home..Infact he stated that it was later that evening when LE arrived at the home for the first time to begin to get a more detailed report and to look around in Hailey's room..see what she had/had not taken..etc..etc..

So that makes it even more strange..BJD goes to PD and reports Hailey missing at 2pm on Tues Dec.28th..according to her it was around 330-4pm that LE arrive at the home to take a further detailed report of Hailey's disappearing/Missing{which was a strange enough lapse of time for a small town LE IMO}..but now we're told by Shawn that LE were not there in the afternoon at all..nor anytime immediately following his getting home..and that infact LE did not come to the home until "later that evening"..

Anyone else scratching their head????