Who Had Motive, Method & Opportunity?!

[*Lash*]

I've always found it suspicious with all of the information outlined at the 9-2-2011 SDSO press conference, not one of the 15 investigators mentioned Nina's visit to the mansion Tuesday. Strangily, in SW 11-164, the detective omits Nina was on the property Tuesday night. The SW states only Rebecca and Adam were on the property Tuesday night. In my opinion, Nina's visit to the mansion appears to be intentionally left out. Maybe because LE would have had to gone further into the explanation of Dina's sighting? Interesting to note, it was not the Zahau's or Bremner who brought forth any salacious details of Nina's visit that night. It was Nina alone who made this information public only days before the airing of the first Dr. Phil show. Bremner was not bound by a 'cease and desist' letter when it came to Dina or Nina. Bremner could have shared the details about Nina's visit with the public. In my opinion, this was a very wise choice by Bremner.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kfmb/misc/warrant_11-164.pdf

 

[time]

I've always found it suspicious with all of the information outlined at the 9-2-2011 SDSO press conference, not one of the 15 investigators mentioned Nina's visit to the mansion Tuesday. Even stranger, in SW 11-164, the detective omits Nina was on the property Tuesday night. The SW states only Rebecca and Adam were on the property Tuesday night. In my opinion, Nina's visit to the mansion appears to be intentionally left out. Maybe because LE would have had to gone further into the explanation of Dina's sighting? Interesting to note, it was not the Zahau's or Bremner who brought forward any salacious details of Nina's visit that night. It was Nina alone who made this information public days before the airing of the first Dr. Phil show. Bremner was not bound by a 'cease and desist' letter when it came to Dina or Nina. Bremner could have shared the details about Nina's visit with the public. In my opinion, this was a very wise choice by Bremner.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kfmb/misc/warrant_11-164.pdf

She knew the late night text to Rebecca was going to get out. It's possible the Rebecca's TOD was 3 am, but I wouldn't doubt it was earlier. It could have even been planned to happen after someone thought Jonah should have left the hospital, hoping it would leave him open as a suspect.

I think it's derilect to have left Nina's activities out of all the initial reports.

Oh, and let's not forget how Nina acted so open in giving her phone records to the press, but all it was was a truncated version of text messages sent (no phone calls) and it was not an official copy - Nina must have downloaded it from the internet. And, suspiciously, the time is an hour off (earlier - is that trying to stretch it to the point it might not fit within the TOD range)

 

[Carioca]

Six people of interest, according to "Fatal Friends, Deadly Neighbors"- therefore who could possibly had motive, method (means) and opportunity? Not to say I think any or all were involved, but IMO the LE's POI would include the following:
DS, NR, JS, AS, NN, and HL.

 

[MyBelle]

I've always found it suspicious with all of the information outlined at the 9-2-2011 SDSO press conference, not one of the 15 investigators mentioned Nina's visit to the mansion Tuesday. Strangily, in SW 11-164, the detective omits Nina was on the property Tuesday night. The SW states only Rebecca and Adam were on the property Tuesday night. In my opinion, Nina's visit to the mansion appears to be intentionally left out. Maybe because LE would have had to gone further into the explanation of Dina's sighting? Interesting to note, it was not the Zahau's or Bremner who brought forth any salacious details of Nina's visit that night. It was Nina alone who made this information public only days before the airing of the first Dr. Phil show. Bremner was not bound by a 'cease and desist' letter when it came to Dina or Nina. Bremner could have shared the details about Nina's visit with the public. In my opinion, this was a very wise choice by Bremner.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kfmb/misc/warrant_11-164.pdf

Why did Nina's visit to the property need to be included in a request for a search warrant? The Judge granted it without it. I agree it was intentionally left out but I think it had everything to do with the fact that Nina never entered the house and after they gathered all evidence, there still was no evidence she entered the house.

JMO

 

[*Lash*]

You're correct Time! The cell phone records Nina provided were not a copy of a detailed billing record. The records were merely a query using the search engine provided by the cellphone providers website. The time entered to populate the search query would have been selected by the person requesting the data. A selective search does not equate to a detailed billing record.

 

[*Lash*]

Why did Nina's visit to the property need to be included in a request for a search warrant? The Judge granted it without it. I agree it was intentionally left out but I think it had everything to do with the fact that Nina never entered the house and after they gathered all evidence, there still was no evidence she entered the house.

JMO

Hi MyBelle! My opinion is not that it was needed to request the search warrant. I only find it odd that in the detectives 'narrative' of SW 11-164, Nina's name was left out when detailing who was on the property Tuesday night. It is a fact Nina, Rebecca and Adam were all 3 on the property Tuesday night.

 

[MyBelle]

Hi MyBelle! My opinion is not that it was needed to request the search warrant. I only find it odd that in the detectives 'narrative' of SW 11-164, Nina's name was left out when detailing who was on the property Tuesday night. It is a fact Nina, Rebecca and Adam were all 3 on the property Tuesday night.

But only RZ and Adam were inside the property. The search warrant was to search inside the property.

JMO

 

[time]

You're correct Time! The cell phone records Nina provided were not a copy of a detailed billing record. The records were merely a query using the search engine provided by the cellphone providers website. The time entered to populate the search query would have been selected by the person requesting the data. A selective search does not equate to a detailed billing record.

And, why does she keep claiming the call was made an hour earlier when both phones would be on the same time? Pretty suspicious. No, I think Nina was also involved.

 

[Zinn]

But only RZ and Adam were inside the property. The search warrant was to search inside the property.

JMO

Maybe this explains why NR felt it necessary to specify she didn't touch the gate and only looked through it. (I'm referring to NR's lengthy audio interview.) As always, JMO.

 

[Carioca]

The bicycle couple that identified Dina at Spreckels, they both state she disappeared down the driveway, "into the shadows beyond." Although when asked by the detective if she had entered Spreckels and they said no, they had no way of knowing there was a gate at the end of the driveway leading to the inner court with doors left unlocked. They did not see her enter the front door, the only door visible to them. Therefore, it cannot be stated unequivocally that only RZ and AS were inside the mansion that night.

… She checked the door but didn't go in. She was nervously turning around, and walking back and forth -- as if she was "trying to decide whether to go in."

Then she cam down from the porch, walked back and forth some more, hesitated, and started pacing again. Finally she walked along some grass that adjoined the driveway and disappeared.

…. His wife had also seen the indecisive woman walking toward the back of Shacknai's estate on the driveway and then into the shadows beyond.

"Did you see her go inside?" a detective asked.
"No," he said. "This woman didn't appear to go inside Spreckels Mansion -- she only walked back and forth from the front porch to the driveway several times in a way that made her look distressed -- but not terrified."

 

[time]

Thanks Carioca .... this is a lot different than someone just standing at the door. No wonder they noticed her.

 

[Carioca]

Rebecca's feet were caked in mud, yet there were no mud prints or stains on the "hanging room" carpet nor any mud or muddy prints on the balcony. Anybody care to explain that?

 

[Inparadise]

Rebecca's feet were caked in mud, yet there were no mud prints or stains on the "hanging room" carpet nor any mud or muddy prints on the balcony. Anybody care to explain that?

Rebecca had a habit of saying good night to guests at both Spreckels and the PV house, before retiring herself. She would check to see if water or anything else was needed, and wish them a good sleep. IMO, she was ambushed when she went out there, and got away into the court yard and likely was hiding in the shrubs (where there would be rich potting soil, the kind that cakes when it is wet). This is probably when the neighbor heard her screams and cries for HELP.

 

[justice be served]

Two items in the book stand out for me. One, that the receipt that LE matched up for the paint and brushes for the door message from the hardware store were found by the PI to be ordinary house paint and brushes for painting a room. Not a match. Two, that there are unidentified witnesses that have not been disclosed that have info but that AB was not comfortable in sharing with local SDSO. Hopefully it is being shared and ferreted out by higher authorities now.

 

[Carioca]

Rebecca had a habit of saying good night to guests at both Spreckels and the PV house, before retiring herself. She would check to see if water or anything else was needed, and wish them a good sleep. IMO, she was ambushed when she went out there, and got away into the court yard and likely was hiding in the shrubs (where there would be rich potting soil, the kind that cakes when it is wet). This is probably when the neighbor heard her screams and cries for HELP.

Thanks IP - But I do wonder how Gore and the brash ME Lucas would explain how Rebecca managed to leave no muddy prints on the carpet and the balcony. Oh, I forgot... they can't. So this hugely significant piece of evidence that points to foul play was conveniently ignored, like everything else that didn't fit their investigation bias. Grrrrrrrr......:banghead:

 

[Inparadise]

Two items in the book stand out for me. One, that the receipt that LE matched up for the paint and brushes for the door message from the hardware store were found by the PI to be ordinary house paint and brushes for painting a room. Not a match. Two, that there are unidentified witnesses that have not been disclosed that have info but that AB was not comfortable in sharing with local SDSO. Hopefully it is being shared and ferreted out by higher authorities now.

There aren't any places to buy art supplies in Coronado since CoraMart closed more than 10 years ago......just 2 hardware stores.

 

[inthedark14]

But only RZ and Adam were inside the property. The search warrant was to search inside the property.

JMO

I don't think that is quite true. The SW was for the property. The entire property, which consists of quite a bit of space for a beach house in a resort community. I doubt it did not encompass anything that wasn't considered part of the property. By part of the property I mean from the edge of whatever Coronado (city, town, village, whatever) considers to be public property, to wherever the property line of the owner starts. I'm not a lawyer, or a city engineer, but I'd guess that the SW encompassed the property...which would include any walkways and fences and gates that anyone did or did not touch (not to mention the guest house and the staff quarters). I wonder if all those areas, that are considered a part of the property were ever tested. I'd guess not. Considering what we've seen from this case. Let's all hope we hear from AB now, even better from the AG. We all know that this case was not handled properly and that SO MUCH was overlooked or not even looked into.

ALWAYS MOO

 

[time]

Rebecca's feet were caked in mud, yet there were no mud prints or stains on the "hanging room" carpet nor any mud or muddy prints on the balcony. Anybody care to explain that?

Wow... I hadn't heard that. Not possible they couldn't find any mud ... and, she just got out of the shower? This just all doesn't add up.

 

[bourne]

Thanks IP - But I do wonder how Gore and the brash ME Lucas would explain how Rebecca managed to leave no muddy prints on the carpet and the balcony. Oh, I forgot... they can't. So this hugely significant piece of evidence that points to foul play was conveniently ignored, like everything else that didn't fit their investigation bias. Grrrrrrrr......:banghead:

You have very keen detective skills! I LOVE it. You're so correct. Why were the soles of Becky's feet so muddy and yet she didn't make any muddy footprint marks on the carpet in the murder room and the balcony if she were trampling all over the room and balcony to measure and cut the rope, paint the non-suicide cryptic note on door, tie the rope to the bed leg, etc.?

The only thing that makes sense is if she were carried by other people into the murder room -- likely wrapped up with the red comforter they found in the murder room.

 

[Gilgamesh]

You have very keen detective skills! I LOVE it. You're so correct. Why were the soles of Becky's feet so muddy and yet she didn't make any muddy footprint marks on the carpet in the murder room and the balcony if she were trampling all over the room and balcony to measure and cut the rope, paint the non-suicide cryptic note on door, tie the rope to the bed leg, etc.?

The only thing that makes sense is if she were carried by other people into the murder room -- likely wrapped up with the red comforter they found in the murder room.

Or if the dirty deed was done in another place and she never went upstairs.