Who Is Caylee's Biological Father?

[butwhatif?]

Hehe.

I don't think the collage is creepy; it's just too redundant for my taste and not super artistic (but maybe I'm biased). It looks like CA's taste and not Casey's taste!

Its just weird because in the one interview, she showed greta the beautiful framed pic of photos from the first week after Caylees birth. And its tasteful not tacky like this one.(particularly baby pics collage) CA is such a neat freak, likes everything just-so, and this collage is disordered and chaotic, so it doesnt seem to fit with her usual way of doing things.
I'm wondering if she made this collage around the time she started to worry about not seeing caylee again, when her life was feeling chaotic?
Gee, wheres' a psychology expert when you need one?
ETA- The baby collage pic is apparently of caylees 'firsts'. It was shown in the holly interview.
The other pic is from Gretas interview and tour of the anthony house.

- This is tasteful one I was talking about. CA made it as a gift for Caseys baby shower, one week after caylees birth. (sorry about the poor quality of the pics.)

 

[AngelCaylee]

I just banned at scaredapes....I'm tired of that crap. ok? I really don't give a crap if Lee is the father: I'm just trying to solve the case. Cindy referred to Caylee as her "grandson" once......thats HUGE.....major slip.....

 

[California Dreamer]

With respect to all the WS'ers various opinions, I have a few points to make.

respectfully snipped "would lead to 4 years of lying and secrets??..." from LetsThink

1. I do not believe there was any kind of incest going on. KC had access to enough able bodied males, and IMO, LA is not hiding anything by not providing his DNA. Since the car was formerly his, his DNA (hair, skin) would likely be all over the car anyway. I stand by my former statements, that KC could go on the Maury Povich show with 20 different men, trying to prove one of them is Caylees daddy. I honestly think she didn't have a clue who the daddy was, and was too scared to admit to CA that she had slept with so many men that she didn't know the daddy. KC, imo, is not the victim, but the victimizer.... as shown by the wake of victims left in her past.

again, snipped from LetsThink "WHY, may be a clue in all this madness....what would be bad enough to cause a pretty young teen 1/2 credit short, quit school and miss her Prom?
Why did her parents allow her to make such a mistake concerning her future?... "

2. Again, with all respect to other WS'ers, how many of you were ever an irresponsible teenage mother? I had my son at the age of 17, and while I had plenty of help from my parents, I still found that my son "got in the way". I was also like KC, perfect grades, good student, 1 credit shy of graduating with my class. I quit with 4 weeks left of school, knowing that I would never walk the line with my class. I AM IN NO WAY commiserating/relating with KC, I am only stating that sometimes when you are a young mother, partying is more important than a baby, espcially when you have parents to take care of the baby for you. There doesn't need to be a mtigating circumstance to make KC quit school other than school got in the way of being with older guys, or she knew that CA and GA would take care of Caylee whether or not KC got her degree. Nothing "that bad" in her life made her quit school, like me, she was out for a good time, and school had now gotten in the way. I was 18, and though my parents begged and pleaded with me to finish school, I wasn't going back.


Rmember, KC is the master manipulator here. She has had everyone wrapped around her stories and lies for so long, no one knows fact from fiction anymore. I think she learned at an early age, as the princess of the Anthony family, how to manipulate to get her way. When CA and GA finally told her to grow up, take care of your baby, get your own place to live, we are sick of supporting you speech, she freaked out with a big old "what do I do now???" I've been there, done that. I sucked it up and took care of my kid, stopped partying, got a good job, etc. KC, imo, didn't want "La bella vida" to ever end. I 'grew up' and have lived the beautiful live with my son, I only wish KC had done the same.

What I'm confused about is why she didn't finish high school - as I recall, she was to have graduated in May/June 2004, but didn't even get pregnant until November 2004, giving birth to Caylee in August 2005. Was she really only half a credit short and why didn't she take care of that during the summer of 2004?

 

[Chilly Willy]

I just banned at scaredapes....I'm tired of that crap. ok? I really don't give a crap if Lee is the father: I'm just trying to solve the case. Cindy referred to Caylee as her "grandson" once......thats HUGE.....major slip.....

How do you see that slip as being so huge? Caylee is obviously a girl, regardless of who the father is.

 

[Pink Panther]

When I first started following this case and saw the Greta interview, the snip where she is talking about the collage really got my hinky meter up. She pauses in the middle of everything she's talking about and really BOASTS about how she put that together herself within the first week that Caylee was born. I've watched the video over again to revisit how it makes me feel and I still get a horrible vibe about her description...She's boasting about her collage-making skills while giving an interview about her missing grand-daughter!

The other thing that strikes me with all of the pics we see of the family and Caylee...I have yet to see a picture of her with a friend. With another child. Not one pic of her with another child her age.

MOO

 

[Dolphinmomcca]

quick question, that website did not include hazel eyes. what happens when a parent has hazel eyes? i'm trying to get a better understanding for how it works i guess.

My ex husband has hazel eyes, and both our boys have bright blue eyes like me. My daughters father has Brown eyes, and she also has bright blue eyes like me.

 

[MagicRose99]

I just banned at scaredapes....I'm tired of that crap. ok? I really don't give a crap if Lee is the father: I'm just trying to solve the case. Cindy referred to Caylee as her "grandson" once......thats HUGE.....major slip.....

If you listen when Cindy talks, a lot of wrong words come out of her mouth because she just spews words instead of thinks about what she says... IMO, this isn't "huge" - it's normal for Cindy

 

[drumstick]

I just banned at scaredapes....I'm tired of that crap. ok? I really don't give a crap if Lee is the father: I'm just trying to solve the case. Cindy referred to Caylee as her "grandson" once......thats HUGE.....major slip.....

It means nothing ... IMO.

She's a nurse. She's self-medicated and makes no sense at anytime or
anything she says. Why do you think le refrained from talking to her?
She's out in the ozone somewhere.

IMO.

 

[Law_girl41]

I'm observing the Caylee baby collage is missing one person. He doesnt seem to be a big part of caylee's existance. Theres not a lot of photo's of LA in comparison the everyone else in the family. Would like to see him as a child in one or two shots.

 

[karenz]

With respect to all the WS'ers various opinions, I have a few points to make.

respectfully snipped "would lead to 4 years of lying and secrets??..." from LetsThink

1. I do not believe there was any kind of incest going on. KC had access to enough able bodied males, and IMO, LA is not hiding anything by not providing his DNA. Since the car was formerly his, his DNA (hair, skin) would likely be all over the car anyway. I stand by my former statements, that KC could go on the Maury Povich show with 20 different men, trying to prove one of them is Caylees daddy. I honestly think she didn't have a clue who the daddy was, and was too scared to admit to CA that she had slept with so many men that she didn't know the daddy. KC, imo, is not the victim, but the victimizer.... as shown by the wake of victims left in her past.

<respectfully snipped>
QUOTE]

Thank you for posting this. To say it nicely, I have a poor opinion of the A's. However, no one has posted any evidence that there has been incest. In my opinion (again), this idea has been banded around with no apparent basis except LP saying that is why he would not give DNA or lie detector. I work with victims of incest frequently in the drug/alcohol counseling field and to me it almost does a disservice to those who have suffered this grave misjustice. If someone has some sort of concrete proof, I am very willing to hear it, but I beg of you to please be careful.


Another thought. When I was 16 I applied for my first job in a clothing store. I had to take a lie detector test. I failed. I cannot imagine why I failed. They said 2 of my answers on my application were deceptive. The application included my name, address, high school, have you ever been charged with a felony (no), and references that included my parents life long friends. I did not lie one iota and I failed. What was there to lie about? I was 16 with no previous experience. What could I have been deceptive about? So I would never rely on a lie detector test again. Ever.

Also, it has been said that KC has colored contacts so the whole eye color thing may be thrown off.

 

[AngelCaylee]

It means nothing ... IMO.

She's a nurse. She's self-medicated and makes no sense at anytime or
anything she says. Why do you think le refrained from talking to her?
She's out in the ozone somewhere.

IMO.

Yes, I totally agree with you on 'that' part, BUT, she followed up the 'grandson' slip immediately with a "he" That part of the brain that all humans park their skeletons...we try very hard to keep it there, but, sometimes the scenario gets all distorted, etc...the defenses break down..we forget, etc. etc., ...then bingo!

 

[Busylady]

I don't see that as meaning much of anything, heck my kids get called the cats, dogs, and other kids names sometimes before I get it right.

I just banned at scaredapes....I'm tired of that crap. ok? I really don't give a crap if Lee is the father: I'm just trying to solve the case. Cindy referred to Caylee as her "grandson" once......thats HUGE.....major slip.....

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I don't see that as meaning much of anything, heck my kids get called the cats, dogs, and other kids names sometimes before I get it right.

HEhehehe. I know what you mean there. Sometimes I resort to just ...Hey you!

 

[tiredofthis]

I don't see that as meaning much of anything, heck my kids get called the cats, dogs, and other kids names sometimes before I get it right.

I have eight brothers and sisters and my mom use to run through them all before she got my name right.

 

[SleuthyMama]

Did anyone interview Baden about his paternity comment? Or was it just left "out there"??? How on earth could he have made a comment like that based on the documents that were released?

I apologize in advance if this has been addressed already but I'm trying to catch up on this thread and I don't know the remark to which PP is referring. Would someone please enlighten me? TIA.

 

[Brini]

I have eight brothers and sisters and my mom use to run through them all before she got my name right.

My Mom used to do that.

Later, she started calling me, "Sarah." That was the dog's name.

 

[Brini]

With respect to all the WS'ers various opinions, I have a few points to make.

respectfully snipped "would lead to 4 years of lying and secrets??..." from LetsThink

1. I do not believe there was any kind of incest going on. KC had access to enough able bodied males, and IMO, LA is not hiding anything by not providing his DNA. Since the car was formerly his, his DNA (hair, skin) would likely be all over the car anyway. I stand by my former statements, that KC could go on the Maury Povich show with 20 different men, trying to prove one of them is Caylees daddy. I honestly think she didn't have a clue who the daddy was, and was too scared to admit to CA that she had slept with so many men that she didn't know the daddy. KC, imo, is not the victim, but the victimizer.... as shown by the wake of victims left in her past.

again, snipped from LetsThink "WHY, may be a clue in all this madness....what would be bad enough to cause a pretty young teen 1/2 credit short, quit school and miss her Prom?
Why did her parents allow her to make such a mistake concerning her future?... "

2. Again, with all respect to other WS'ers, how many of you were ever an irresponsible teenage mother? I had my son at the age of 17, and while I had plenty of help from my parents, I still found that my son "got in the way". I was also like KC, perfect grades, good student, 1 credit shy of graduating with my class. I quit with 4 weeks left of school, knowing that I would never walk the line with my class. I AM IN NO WAY commiserating/relating with KC, I am only stating that sometimes when you are a young mother, partying is more important than a baby, espcially when you have parents to take care of the baby for you. There doesn't need to be a mtigating circumstance to make KC quit school other than school got in the way of being with older guys, or she knew that CA and GA would take care of Caylee whether or not KC got her degree. Nothing "that bad" in her life made her quit school, like me, she was out for a good time, and school had now gotten in the way. I was 18, and though my parents begged and pleaded with me to finish school, I wasn't going back.


Rmember, KC is the master manipulator here. She has had everyone wrapped around her stories and lies for so long, no one knows fact from fiction anymore. I think she learned at an early age, as the princess of the Anthony family, how to manipulate to get her way. When CA and GA finally told her to grow up, take care of your baby, get your own place to live, we are sick of supporting you speech, she freaked out with a big old "what do I do now???" I've been there, done that. I sucked it up and took care of my kid, stopped partying, got a good job, etc. KC, imo, didn't want "La bella vida" to ever end. I 'grew up' and have lived the beautiful live with my son, I only wish KC had done the same.

I agree.

I also can't see LA coercing KC into doing ANYTHING. Looks like CA and KC rule the roost. IMHO

 

[Brini]

Its just weird because in the one interview, she showed greta the beautiful framed pic of photos from the first week after Caylees birth. And its tasteful not tacky like this one.(particularly baby pics collage) CA is such a neat freak, likes everything just-so, and this collage is disordered and chaotic, so it doesnt seem to fit with her usual way of doing things.
I'm wondering if she made this collage around the time she started to worry about not seeing caylee again, when her life was feeling chaotic?
Gee, wheres' a psychology expert when you need one?
ETA- The baby collage pic is apparently of caylees 'firsts'. It was shown in the holly interview.
The other pic is from Gretas interview and tour of the anthony house.

- This is tasteful one I was talking about. CA made it as a gift for Caseys baby shower, one week after caylees birth. (sorry about the poor quality of the pics.)

I think CA is just not a great artist. I think that's her idea of art.

 

[Brini]

I'm observing the Caylee baby collage is missing one person. He doesnt seem to be a big part of caylee's existance. Theres not a lot of photo's of LA in comparison the everyone else in the family. Would like to see him as a child in one or two shots.

I think they just included everybody who lives in the house. Mostly women, children and dogs.

I don't think LA's absence has any deep significance

 

[Brini]

HEhehehe. I know what you mean there. Sometimes I resort to just ...Hey you!

My Mom finally gave up, and just rang a big, brass bell. We all came, and she just sorted out whom she wanted.