Who was George Brody?- Part 2.

[SideKick]

http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census

All info above is from this link.

 

[SideKick]

~ You can't access information by name yet... they say volunteers are still working on it. As far as searching for other things, I am not sure either! :banghead: I keep looking at the page ...

NOT easy! What I wrote was copied from Annasmom link however, I did get in with using a name.

On this page you can type in a name, I am trying to find an address he lived at and find a SIN Number or Social Insurance Number...:

http://1940census.archives.gov/search-1930/

 

[Cubby]

We knew about a George Brody married to a Margaret sometime ago. Dr. Doogie researched this angle and it is not our GB.

When I tried to access the census info it was down due to 37 million hits since it went online.

I'll try again in a few days or few weeks when things might slow down a bit. I thought it was bad when we overload the WS server, I can't imagine what this many people is doing to the server carrying the census info!

 

[raf]

Hi all; we know that OUR George Brody was in Oakland from 1936-1944 and living:
1936 Oakland George Brody, 483 9th - Salesman, Dem
1938 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th - Jr. research assit. Dem
1940 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Aug.) Oakland George Brody, 1724 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Nov) Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. – Dem
1944 Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit, - Dem

and by newspaper article of 1941 (Oakland Tribune):



"Berkeley, 1941 Oct 2-Suspect freed of picket’s charge

It required a jury but 15 minutes to find Joseoh G Sgroe, 29, innocent of battery charges in connection with alleged assault on a ticket patroling in front on a barber shop at 1906 University Avenue last august 5.
The case was heard in the court of Police judge Oliver Young jr.
According in prosecution witness testimony, as Sgroe who lives at 1912 Sacramento st, was entering the barber shop he saw Picket George Brody, 3, the plaintiff, jot down his license number.
Sgroe retraced his steps, the testimony said, and demanded the memo from Brody. When Brody turned his back. Sgroe slapped him in the face with such force that he spun him around, the testimony related.
At this juncture, Brody, who lives at 1724 San Pablo Avenue, called for help. Patrolman B.W. Gocke responded."

and I believe that this George Brody is our guy. The wife was Margaret, nurse, born in NJ yes but the parents coming from Hungary

The GB born in Ohio and married at another Margaret born in NJ( parents born in NJ) and living in San Francisco in 1940 census as a well in 1930 census..
I believe that they are other peoples...

It are several posts of WB members abt that ..
Just my opinion...
regards,
raf

 

[Cubby]

Thank you for bringing current the information we know to be our GB, raf. This will help those researching the census to know which GB to look for and which have been ruled out.

:blowkiss:

 

[raf]

Thank you for bringing current the information we know to be our GB, raf. This will help those researching the census to know which GB to look for and which have been ruled out.

:blowkiss:

Hi Cubby, yes I found the 1940 census of George Brody; I searched many times, but now I found; the ED:
1940 ED numbers
61-108
in this ED is the 534 12th st; the address where GB lived from 1938/40 +-

and now I found; surprise: he was a russian!
the image is a bit large, maybe I can resize ..

http://interactive.ancestry.com/244...=2442&path=&ssrc=#imageId=M-T0627-00444-00016

line 37 BRODY Geo
living at 534 12th st Oakland; age 34: born in Russia; naturalized; single; and if I read well he had just the elementary education;
profession: laborer - constructions;
at 1 apr 1935 last residence: Oakland, CA

hoping helpful,
regards,
raf

 

[smile22]

Hi Cubby, yes I found the 1940 census of George Brody; I searched many times, but now I found; the ED:
1940 ED numbers
61-108
in this ED is the 534 12th st; the address where GB lived from 1938/40 +-

and now I found; surprise: he was a russian!
the image is a bit large, maybe I can resize ..

http://interactive.ancestry.com/244...=2442&path=&ssrc=#imageId=M-T0627-00444-00016

line 37 BRODY Geo
living at 534 12th st Oakland; age 34: born in Russia; naturalized; single; and if I read well he had just the elementary education;
profession: laborer - constructions;
at 1 apr 1935 last residence: Oakland, CA

hoping helpful,
regards,
raf

i saw that too the geo was hard to read but i saw russian so we need to maybe look at people of russian decent with that last name. to get more info about him

 

[katydid23]

If he was born in Russia that might not be his last name at birth. It could have been 'shortened' from Brodinsky or something like that.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Yes, the GB who was married to Margaret and lived in SF is the "other" Brody. Our guy was in the Oakland area during this timeframe, so the Russian GB may be the right one.

 

[OzzieMum]

Hi Cubby, yes I found the 1940 census of George Brody; I searched many times, but now I found; the ED:
1940 ED numbers
61-108
in this ED is the 534 12th st; the address where GB lived from 1938/40 +-

and now I found; surprise: he was a russian!
the image is a bit large, maybe I can resize ..

http://interactive.ancestry.com/244...=2442&path=&ssrc=#imageId=M-T0627-00444-00016

line 37 BRODY Geo
living at 534 12th st Oakland; age 34: born in Russia; naturalized; single; and if I read well he had just the elementary education;
profession: laborer - constructions;
at 1 apr 1935 last residence: Oakland, CA

hoping helpful,
regards,
raf

If the Russian GB is our GB then he obviously didn't serve in the military in WW2 as he is listed on the census as a construction laborer.

Do we know what the protest was about when GB got hit by the guy crossing the picket line? I've been searching on google to see if I can find out but haven't been able to find anything. Maybe it was a protest against the war or something to do with a construction workers/laborers union.

 

[Annasmom]

Yes, the GB who was married to Margaret and lived in SF is the "other" Brody. Our guy was in the Oakland area during this timeframe, so the Russian GB may be the right one.

I can't tell you how difficult I find it to believe George Brody was Russian-born. He had not a trace of an accent of any kind, never once referred to Russia, was far too small and slight to be a construction worker, and obviously had more than a grade-school education. Since I am not a member of Ancestry, I can't open the links here. Is it possible to copy and paste any of this information?
And again, you can tell a census taker anything you want to. They aren't checking birth certificates. This might have been yet another Brody ploy to keep people from knowing anything about him. I really do not believe he was Russian.

 

[OzzieMum]

I can't tell you how difficult I find it to believe George Brody was Russian-born. He had not a trace of an accent of any kind, never once referred to Russia, was far too small and slight to be a construction worker, and obviously had more than a grade-school education. Since I am not a member of Ancestry, I can't open the links here. Is it possible to copy and paste any of this information?
And again, you can tell a census taker anything you want to. They aren't checking birth certificates. This might have been yet another Brody ploy to keep people from knowing anything about him. I really do not believe he was Russian.

Hi Annasmom,

PM me your email address and I will send it to you.

 

[OzzieMum]

On the census the Russian GB looks like he is George J Brody. I have found something quite interesting, there is a NY passenger list for 1946 with a George J Brody travelling from France to NY. His occupation is manufacturer and his year of birth is listed as 1906 His passport number is on it too. I have been trying to find out if you can look at historical passport info. Any one have any ideas?

 

[mysteriew]

I can't tell you how difficult I find it to believe George Brody was Russian-born. He had not a trace of an accent of any kind, never once referred to Russia, was far too small and slight to be a construction worker, and obviously had more than a grade-school education. Since I am not a member of Ancestry, I can't open the links here. Is it possible to copy and paste any of this information?
And again, you can tell a census taker anything you want to. They aren't checking birth certificates. This might have been yet another Brody ploy to keep people from knowing anything about him. I really do not believe he was Russian.

About the accent it is possible. You knew him some thirty years after he came to the US. And some people are very good at picking up new languages including accents. Plus he had incentive. That time period was the beginning of the cold war. Lots of talk of Russian spies and hydrogen bombs. Not long after Hoover came along and started putting pressure on anyone that even associated with anyone who was associating with anyone who had communist leanings. Brody could have felt he stuck out with a Russian accent. Later the cold war was talked about and was in the media regularly because of the McCarthy hearings. So he may have made a major effort to lose any accent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

So not saying this is him. But the lack of an accent is something that should be kept in mind, but it can still be explained.

Speaking of the WW II. I think of some of the Nazi's they have found in the US years and years after the end of the war. When they were picked up as war criminals, I have seen neighbors tell media the men didn't even have German accents. So they would be shocked when the men were arrested as war criminals. That's what made me think of Brody's paranoia and of what was going on between when he arrived and when you met him. If he was either Russian or German it could explain a lot.

 

[Cubby]

I don't have an ancestry membership so I can't see the links either.

Can someone copy the exact info listed on the census for GB?

Also, if he was born is Russia is there a way to go back and research the Ellis Island info, to see which ship he arrived on and with whom he travelled? That may be a way to find family members who emigrated to the US with him.

This should also open up an avenue to research his naturalization records too, no?

 

[katydid23]

I don't have an ancestry membership so I can't see the links either.

Can someone copy the exact info listed on the census for GB?

Also, if he was born is Russia is there a way to go back and research the Ellis Island info, to see which ship he arrived on and with whom he travelled? That may be a way to find family members who emigrated to the US with him.

This should also open up an avenue to research his naturalization records too, no?

Didn't I see a genealogical research thread on here somewhere? I am sure I did. I wonder if someone in there would try and find out about Ellis island. That would take us back to his starting points and any relatives still around, imo.

 

[Cubby]

Didn't I see a genealogical research thread on here somewhere? I am sure I did. I wonder if someone in there would try and find out about Ellis island. That would take us back to his starting points and any relatives still around, imo.

It's been years since I have done any ancestry research since those are almost all pay sites now requiring membership.

Here is the link to the Ellis Island site:

http://www.ellisisland.org/

I'll see what I can find, but I think raf is by far our genealogy expert here. I'd trust the accuracy of what she may find far more than what I might, but I will give it a shot.

 

[Cubby]

Nothing on a quick Ellis Island search. I'd imagine that is because Brody is not his birth surname and he shortened it after he arrived in the US.

I'm going to have to leave this area of research to those with the genealogy knowledge and access to the paid websites.

 

[Cubby]

We should probably remember George could have been the Russian form of George when he arrived here.....

Not sure how accurate this info is, but here is some info on translation of George to Russian. There is another link/source at the yahoo link.

George - Georgiy, Georgy, Yuriy, Yuri or Yegor
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071021212343AADXuoP

 

[Cubby]

Here is the link for the free 1940 census search. I am still not finding our GB on here.... I ended up with something that had an entirely different family on line 37.

raf, can you see if you can help us navigate this site? I see a lot of 12's but not a 12th street. A 12th av, 12th place..... If you can and it is not too much time it would be appreciated.

http://1940census.archives.gov/