Who was George Brody?

[Dr. Doogie]

So the coroner ruled it a suicide, could it be that it was not? No police? That seems odd for the setting and circumstances, people usually called the police first, not the coroner...I think it probably was suicide, but could it be that someone was afraid he might talk, and had a friendly 'drink' with him? Now that they knew Brody was gone?

I know they are weird questions, but I want a direction that Anna might have taken in all of this...the bottom line, find Anna

The way that Waters died matched exactly his earlier interest in the method of suicide by George Rommel. The hotel manager indicated to Joe Ford that Waters had been extremely distraught prior to his death. And Brody had been drilling into Waters for years the notion that he needed Brody's guidance for even the most mundane daily tasks. I believe that all of this points toward a suicide.

Your hypothesis is very plausible. The question of whether Waters was an active participant, a manipulated patsy or completely unaware bystander is open for debate. If Waters was not "in" on the abduction, that would explain the comment "I am glad the tot is dead." Brody may have told him that Anna must have drowned in the creek (to cover his own complicity) and Waters merely parroted what he had been told earlier. This would also explain Brody's uncharacteristic dumbfound silence at the statement - he may have been thinking that it was best to leave Waters thinking that Anna had died.

I am interested in seeing your numerology findings once they are completed.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Here is all the info in chronological order from the voter registrations for the 2(?)George Brodys. Margaret is only listed where noted

1923 SF George Brody, 1060 Page – Plummer, Dec.
1928 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave – Hdw. Dealer, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1930 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave – none listed, Rep. (Margaret Rep)
1932 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave. – Merchant, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1933 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave. – Merchant, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1936 Oakland George Brody, 483 9th - Salesman, Dem
1938 SF George Brody, 458 Divisadero – Merchant, Dem.
1938 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th - Jr. research assit. Dem
1940 SF George Brody, 831 Fulton – Merchant, Dem.
1940 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Aug.) Oakland George Brody, 1724 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Nov) Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. – Dem.
1944 Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit, - Dem.

Here again split into the 2 Georges

1923 SF George Brody, 1060 Page – Plummer, Dec.
1928 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave – Hdw. Dealer, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1930 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave – none listed, Rep. (Margaret Rep)
1932 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave. – Merchant, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1933 SF George Brody, 2375 20th Ave. – Merchant, Rep. (Margaret Dem)
1938 SF George Brody, 458 Divisadero – Merchant, Dem.
1940 SF George Brody, 831 Fulton – Merchant, Dem.

1936 Oakland George Brody, 483 9th - Salesman, Dem
1938 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th - Jr. research assit. Dem
1940 Oakland George Brody, 534 12th – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Aug.) Oakland George Brody, 1724 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. Dem.
1942 (Nov) Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit. – Dem.
1944 Oakland George Brody, 2329 San Pablo – Jr. research assit, - Dem.

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Over a year ago, when I first read about Anna, I thought that the numerologic thing should be done, and now here I am saying I should have done it then. We have this thing in our town, where I can get it done, this spring, I just don't know the dates yet, but will do it asap.

the other thing that came to my attention while (always) rereading the info, was that Joe had many tapes that he could only transcribe a few. Are these tapes destroyed, or still in existence? Hearing them would be useful and not incriminatory in any way. It wouldnt be a character assassination but rather a tone and/or demeanor thing that I would like to hear. What happened to the tapes, all of them?

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Since we are all searching way past the far end of logic...

Maybe you need the date, Sept16, 1970, as the key to open the safe deposit box! tell the bank you have it, lol!

The key is the number, which is a date, and on that date, the money was put there...I hypothesize....

 

[InterestedNHelping]

and "the Plan" was written...

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Since we are all searching way past the far end of logic...

Maybe you need the date, Sept16, 1970, as the key to open the safe deposit box! tell the bank you have it, lol!

The key is the number, which is a date, and on that date, the money was put there...I hypothesize....

Actually, we have the key to the box. Unfortunately, we didn't link the key to this box until after it had reverted to the State Controller's office, so the key itself is now useless. There would be something ironic and delicious about using Brody's money to finance the search for Anna, but alas, it is not to be..

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Here is something else interesting...for you census researchers...

On The page 2 of the notebook of GW, it mentions Title 13, US Code...

This means THE CENSUS...perhaps they were trying to LIE to the census taker? Why did he go to all the trouble of looking up the law about it????

 

[InterestedNHelping]

It will be, hang on to that key, we will find someone who wants the money bad enough to come forward and tell us they are related to him!

 

[InterestedNHelping]

The Census evaders probably found this...lol

Section 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers
(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100. (b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500. (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Here it is:

GEORGE BRODY, MARGARET KUKODA
Listings in San Francisco City Directory
(Taken from Joe Ford’s handwritten notes dated March 30, 1982)

1945-46: George Brody, 480 Ellis
(Brody not in 1948-49 Directory)
1951 George & Marian Brody clk. r. 1507 Cal
1953 Kukoda Margt nurse 1905 Fulton Apt. 5
(No listing for Brody in 1953)
1955-56: Brody Geo. r. 480 Ellis
1957: Margt. Kukoda, agt. for Stroll-O-Chair Display Co. h. 3009 Mission, Spt. 310
(No listing for Brody)
1958: Kukoda, Margt. M (Oriental & French Imports) r. 3019 Mission
1959: No listing for Brody, Kukoda or Mary Kay
1960: Mary E. Kay, 3141 Franklin, Apr. 4. No Kukoda, no Brody listed
1961: Mary Kay, r. 1006 Noe, Apt. 3
1962: Same listing
1963: Mary Kay, r. 1006 Noe, Apt. 3
1965: Not in directory
1966: Kay, Mary M. (widow of John) dir Beeline Fashion Home, h 1006 Noe....

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From what I read, Doogie and SherlockJr have had this info for awhile, and I'm sure they've both researched the death out of the Marian Brody thing. Did any one ever come up with who she was? There is a Marian Brody listed in the 1930 SF census, but that is her birth name. b. 1914 IIRC She had a brother one year younger named Jack living on 22nd street.

 

[InterestedNHelping]

I need to ask this, where are pages 13, 14, and 15 of the notebook? I was onto something that seems so relevant, but it abruptly ends, and pages are deleted...are there somethings not personal on those pages that I can view?

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I need to ask this, where are pages 13, 14, and 15 of the notebook? I was onto something that seems so relevant, but it abruptly ends, and pages are deleted...are there somethings not personal on those pages that I can view?

Annasmom said there where a few pages left out that didn't seem relevant. I think she said they where drafts of letters from Waters to Brody.

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Does this medical center look familiar to his (Brody's) medical care?

BRODY ROBERT Amount: $678.96Type of Property: OtherReported By: CALIFORNIA PACIFIC MEDICAL CENTERReported Address: 431 BELVEDERE ST , SAN FRANCISCO

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Hi, InWoman! Haven't spoken in a while, but I know you are there working with me! thanks for the info...I think it is all very very pertinent, and I would respectfully request to see it....hmmm

 

[InterestedNHelping]

What is your take on the Census research they were so worried about? I thought that was pretty weird...but then again, what isn't?

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Here is something else for you INW...remember when we talked about the mileage, and that Waters 'idled' for 3-4 hours? (squibb 31 E) it was on Sept 20, 1970, the date above it...Sept 16, 1970...the whole layout of what he wrote in this book seems to me to be a pre kidnapping or MONEY plan regarding Anna

 

[SherlockJr]

I need to ask this, where are pages 13, 14, and 15 of the notebook? I was onto something that seems so relevant, but it abruptly ends, and pages are deleted...are there somethings not personal on those pages that I can view?

INH, I am on my way back home from Florida and I will check those pages tomorrow late afternoon. I have no files on this laptop I am using.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

What is your take on the Census research they were so worried about? I thought that was pretty weird...but then again, what isn't?

I think they were worried about how much personal information would be made public. (Probably salaries I'd imagine) That particular code has to do with confidentiality IIRC.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Here is something else for you INW...remember when we talked about the mileage, and that Waters 'idled' for 3-4 hours? (squibb 31 E) it was on Sept 20, 1970, the date above it...Sept 16, 1970...the whole layout of what he wrote in this book seems to me to be a pre kidnapping or MONEY plan regarding Anna

Anything is possible, but I'm inclined to think the money in the box accumulated over a few years. He probably just pulled out what ever was in his pocket and stuck it in. There could have been any amount of change in there added up into whole dollars with 9 cents left over.

 

[Annasmom]

I need to ask this, where are pages 13, 14, and 15 of the notebook? I was onto something that seems so relevant, but it abruptly ends, and pages are deleted...are there somethings not personal on those pages that I can view?

Page 12 (page numbers are actually the dates on a June, 1969 Squibb handout calendar which he used for notes to himself) is blank. Pages 13, 14 and 25 are the draft of a letter from BW to GB.

Here is the text:

I am sending you this to indicate to you what I think ab. you & how I feel about you. However, I also wish to emphasize that your birth day is about due. Thus, I'm considering it as a B-D present, and one, who knows, maybe you will & maybe you will not, receive ("it") in the manner that a bd present is normally received by the recipient (*see over) Seriously, I can't thank God enough for you to have been born, and for me to have met you, bec. it was you--and not anybody else in this world, and that includes both universities I attended--who gave the real meaning of Life to me. To me you're tops, and if I were to live my life all over again I would want to be at least 1/100th, or just one bit, like you. Affectionately and endearingly, George (GHW,MD).

The next page is a Squibb advertisement. On "Friday 15" is the sentence GW refers to as *see over:

This "it" in parentheses means simply this: I have made you the sole beneficiary to a death by accident policy. (by L/L is crossed out here.) Said policy, you will note, is with L/L I am also enclosing a photostatic copy of said policy to you.


The only hospital information among the papers is an admission for "George Bee, P. O Box 5889, SF, to Children's Hospital of San Francisco on April 28, 1981. He was discharged May 5, 1981. GW paid the bill by check on June 5, 1981, according to Joe Ford's note.

One more note, about how we knew papers had been destroyed. Many parts of the existing papers have been cut out, torn out, or marked through with black pen. What seems to have been left is either papers GW wanted found, or a few which he simply overlooked, like the Squibb notebook.