Who was most qualified to write the RN?

[BBB167893]

Amateurish is your opinion and since 14 years and no arrest, I am easily able to question your opinion.

Gosh darn it! I sure wish I had some expert opinion to back me up!

Oh, that's right. I DO.

As for questioning it, your basis is highly dubious. One does not necessarily relate to the other.

It seems there's a misunderstanding of what 'qualified' means.

Perhaps.

Put another way: Who would you consider most up to the task of handwriting a 2 1/2 page ransom note legibly, while knowing what was going to happen or what already happened to JBR?

That's easy: the person Who felt the greatest need.

An experienced killer with a writing background is most likely able to write such a note. Far more qualified than a housewife or businessman who have never killed before or weren't expecting to have to write a note, let alone a long note.

That's pretty much my point, HOTYH. An experienced killer with a writing background would have done a much better job.

Surely you jest, that someone who has in fact killed before would be less qualified than a housewife to write this ransom note.

That's YOUR characterization of what I said.

That you would prefer a housewife over an experienced killer-author for the task is something absurd beyond anything I've read.

It is unfortunate that you feel that way. It's even more unfortunate that you're not secure enough in your theory to find out WHY I prefer it.

It seems that some are confusing 'qualified' with 'motivated'.

That I will agree with!

Would it help to remember that no motive has been identified in this case?

No, it would not.

It was a rhetorical poll, really, because the most qualified is inarguable.

You're half-right: it was rhetorical. More's the pity.

It just clarified for me what the true nature of this forum is all about.

Sadly, I believe it has not. Quite the opposite in fact.

Its all about RDI-or-bust spin to the point where rationality is set aside.

You might as well be talking to yourself with that nonsense, HOTYH.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

That's easy: the person Who felt the greatest need.

According to you, then, the person most qualified to have removed my appendix was the person who needed the money/experience most?'

Your logic is flawed, and its no slight problem.

I'll reiterate: An experienced killer who is also an author could write that note, where other people would fail because they would either be too agitated or not able to focus enough to compose and then handwrite such a note. I believe most people fall into the latter category. Of course, can't test the theory.

You might as well be talking to yourself with that nonsense, HOTYH.

I might as well be talking to myself...PERIOD. When you've finally accepted the premise that an experienced killer/author has ransom note writing abilities that exceed PR, then it will be like a breakthrough or something. Logic will have prevailed over bias and emotion.

 

[BBB167893]

According to you, then, the person most qualified to have removed my appendix was the person who needed the money/experience most?'

Are you here to discuss the case, or make jokes? You know that's a lousy comparison as well as I do.

Your logic is flawed, and its no slight problem.

Boy, you took the words right out of my mouth!

I'll reiterate: An experienced killer who is also an author could write that note, where other people would fail because they would either be too agitated or not able to focus enough to compose and then handwrite such a note. I believe most people fall into the latter category.

If you must know, to me, the RN suggests someone who WAS agitated and not focused (perhaps requiring a little help).

Of course, can't test the theory.

More's the pity, too. I wouldn't mind finding out those results myself.

I might as well be talking to myself...PERIOD.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I've thought that!

When you've finally accepted the premise that an experienced killer/author has ransom note writing abilities that exceed PR, then it will be like a breakthrough or something.

What do you mean, "when I accept it?" It's my whole point! An experienced killer/author DOES have writing abilities that exceed PR! That's WHY it's so hard to buy the idea that such a person would have done such a scattershot, unfocused job of it! Like I said: it was amateur night. Experience LE agents could and DID notice it.

Logic will have prevailed over bias and emotion.

I can only DREAM of the day that happens!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

An experienced killer/author DOES have writing abilities that exceed PR!

Yep.:clap:

 

[BBB167893]

Yep.:clap:

I'd celebrate the thought that we're getting somewhere, but since you didn't address the rest of it, I'll not get my hopes up just yet.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If you must know, to me, the RN suggests someone who WAS agitated and not focused (perhaps requiring a little help).

Agitated? Yes, about capitalism apparently. But the handwriting was fully legible throughout, and there were no gross errors. Plus, we all understand what it said. This belies the idea that an unplanned fatal accident left the mother very agitated and unfocused, yet calm and collected enough to produce a fully legible 370 word document with few errors.

I sense another RDI paradox coming on.

 

[BBB167893]

But the handwriting was fully legible throughout, and there were no gross errors.

I'll get to that.

Plus, we all understand what it said.

I wonder...

This belies the idea that an unplanned fatal accident left the mother very agitated and unfocused, yet calm and collected enough to produce a fully legible 370 word document with few errors.

Belies? Hardly. Just spitballing here:

Naturally, the unplanned fatal accident would have left her a mental wreck, at first. But as someone who had already faced one crisis, she did as so many people we hear about do in a crisis: she sucked it up and went for it, possibly with some help from her husband, a pretty forceful personality in his own right, acting as her rock, helping her through it. But as anyone who has ever been in a tight spot can tell you, the shock and agitation don't go away. You just fight through it. It was still there, despite her best efforts to fight it off. And it slipped through in the few errors that were made. I imagine she was close to collapse as she finished.

You shouldn't discount the possibility of a little chemical calming, such as Xanax.

I sense another RDI paradox coming on.

Well, if you can find any in what I've just offered, please point them out to me.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I'll get to that.



I wonder...



Belies? Hardly. Just spitballing here:

Naturally, the unplanned fatal accident would have left her a mental wreck, at first. But as someone who had already faced one crisis, she did as so many people we hear about do in a crisis: she sucked it up and went for it, possibly with some help from her husband, a pretty forceful personality in his own right, acting as her rock, helping her through it. But as anyone who has ever been in a tight spot can tell you, the shock and agitation don't go away. You just fight through it. It was still there, despite her best efforts to fight it off. And it slipped through in the few errors that were made. I imagine she was close to collapse as she finished.

You shouldn't discount the possibility of a little chemical calming, such as Xanax.



Well, if you can find any in what I've just offered, please point them out to me.

I already have a list of RDI paradoxes a mile long.

But you did say the magic word and for me it says a lot:

. I imagine she was close to collapse as she finished.

You imagined something.

I accept that in my theory I will likely not be able to piece together a sequence of events because I know I don't have enough information. I'll leave it to JBR's killer to do that.

I think that for us outsiders, when we admit what we do not know and study what we do know, then and only then will progress be made.

 

[BBB167893]

I already have a list of RDI paradoxes a mile long.

Start a thread on them. I'm focusing on this issue for now.

But you did say the magic word and for me it says a lot:

You imagined something.

I don't see what's so earth-shattering about that. I was very up-front about it. I don't claim to possess the Rosetta Stone, as it were. I'm just trying to put things together.

I accept that in my theory I will likely not be able to piece together a sequence of events because I know I don't have enough information. I'll leave it to JBR's killer to do that.

I think that for us outsiders, when we admit what we do not know and study what we do know, then and only then will progress be made.

For once, HOTYH, you and I are in complete agreement.

 

[Tadpole12]

Interesting link, re rn:

http://www.trialrun.com/profiles/jon-benet_ramsey2.html

This presentation provides an example of the many and varied clues available in "visual energy patterns."
......

 

[CathyR]

Interesting link, re rn:

http://www.trialrun.com/profiles/jon-benet_ramsey2.html

This presentation provides an example of the many and varied clues available in "visual energy patterns."
......

I read it and it SCARED ME. From what I could gather who ever wrote the note is very controlled under pressure, has a I'm superior to you attitude as well as a lot, and I mean a lot of anger and rage. :nerves::nerves:

 

[madeleine]

I keep reading this RN and there's always something new I see in it.....

You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities.

@bold

this is so ridiculous......A foreign faction who has the power to control and supervise the authorities and their actions?GMAB.No matter who wrote it,it's so childish and stupid,not scary at all.


You will be scanned for electronic devices

Oh really.Equipped as well,huh.


You will also be denied her remains for proper burial.

Only a RELIGIOUS person will give importance to this detail IMO or someone knowing very well that the R's were such religious people.

 

[joeskidbeck]

How about this. How did this small foreign faction know of things like "good Southern common sense"? I am from the South (yes, I have always capitalized the S in South or Southern) and that phrase is used just about daily where I live, which happens to be close to Atlanta. Nothing about the note sounds like some "foreigner" wrote it. If so, they would have to have been educated in the United States and most likely, the Southern United States. It flows too well for it to have been written by someone not originally from this country. For me, Patsy is the most qualified to have written the note.

 

[DeeDee249]

Here's your answer: They wouldn't know.

 

[sedndun]

I've always wondered if the length of the letter had something to do with having to wait too long and just needing a thing to focus on. If Patsy and John were both in on the letter, then the call to 911 could have come at any time once all the pieces were in place. The time frame as it happened seemed to not only revolve around John waking up, but John coming out of the shower- if it was Patsy, then I think she was holding off as long as possible.

Perhaps she finished the staging/cleanup then went up to write the letter. Maybe it was only four o'clock. She focused on the letter, trying a few things out. Looking at the time, she realized John wouldn't be up for a while. She lingers on the letter and it gets longer and meanders needlessly. Perhaps she knows she should really be retracing her steps and making sure nothing was left to chance, but she can't bring herself to go back down to the basement. So she just keeps writing and waiting. She hears the water running. He's up. She could start now, but instead she waits longer and the end of the note takes a turn against John. She's upset with him for not being there, not stopping what happened, not helping with the hard decisions she had to make. The water turns off, no more time to wait- showtime.

not so much an opinion as trying out different scenarios to see what at least seems plausible

 

[AndHence]

The use of a caret between 'do' and 'particularly' to insert the word 'not' is a dead giveaway that it was someone familiar with journalistic editing practices.

 

[BoldBear]

The use of a caret between 'do' and 'particularly' to insert the word 'not' is a dead giveaway that it was someone familiar with journalistic editing practices.

I learned this insertion marker in junior high and again in high school. All my teachers used it when grading papers. John could have used it when proofing business letters.

I don't know. Maybe it's one of those things I expect almost everyone to know.

 

[TeaTime]

IMHO there is no doubt but that PR wrote the RN. It is as clear as daylight to me. Detectives at the scene think she wrote it to cover for her self. Others, including the GJ, think she wrote it to cover for her other child.

BR and JR should submit to FBI polygraphs and end the speculation.

 

[EtherealMoonRose]

Patsy wrote it for sure. The writing similarities are too uncanny for any other explanation. I also think the RN was written over several hours. As in write a paragraph, panic, then back to it.

 

[Miz Adventure]

This Poll has some loaded questions.

If one of the options had been "Who would write a ransom note?" then I would have ticked a box for 'a kidnapper' (if there had been such a box)

If one of the options had been "Who wrote THAT ransom note?" then my answer would have been the housewife with a journalism background.