Why didn't the parents hire someone to watch the children?

[CaliKid]

Calikid- I also grew up on military bases. It was not unusual for us to be out when the sun came up and not go in until dinner. We all ran toghter in a pack. We fished, we swam, played kick ball, built forts, walked up town for pizza. Sometimes we ate vegetables out of the garden and drank out of the hose for lunch. Never did I feel scared or afraid. Since becoming a parent I think man were we lucky. We had a lake about 1/2 a mile from our house that was in the woods. There were times I would go there all alone and fish all day only coming home if I caught something that I couldn't get off my hook. Never!!! Ever!!! would I allow my kids to do that. In todays society are children really are missing out on some of the greatest joys.

Those were great, safe times. I wouldn't even think of letting my kids do the same today.

 

[Lorraining]

The whole thing is made even more preposterous considering the McCann's appear to have had a good support system with family coming often to help Kate with the children. I never had this type of help so to speak, nor did I expect or want it.

My children were 18 months apart and I wouldn't even leave them with my wonderful mother-in-law who had raised 6 children herself. They had a large house and a swimming pool in the backyard and I was afraid of what could possibly happen. To this day, I regret not traveling out of state for three days to be with my best friend as he was dieing of cancer. I simply couldn't leave my babies, and I can only trust that he understood. I never took vacations that didn't include my children and I certainly wouldn't have left them with someone I didn't know, much less alone! Even when my children were much older, I didn't go on an incredibly expensive 5 day cruise I was awarded as Employee of the Year because I was fearful of being so far away from my children even though they would have been taken care of by family. Perhaps I was a bit neurotic, but the fact that the McCann's left these precious children alone night after night (3 under the age of 4 for Pete's sake) is simply beyond my imagination. They won't even admit they did anything wrong!

In my opinion, if they were capable of that type of negiligence, then they were capable of either accidently or by violence of causing the death of Maddie and then trying to cover it up to protect themselves and their careers. I can only hope that they will find an ounce of parental responsiblity and guilt, and confess to what happened to that precious and innocent little girl.

 

[teacherbees]

sleuthin4fun - Truthfully, if it were me (and it has been, in the past!), I would NOT leave my almost 17 year old daughter home alone.

One of my neighbors was a pilot for Delta, before he retired a few years ago. He and his wife would frequently go on trips, leaving their daughter home alone. She was a good kid but I think the temptation was too great - just about every time they left, she'd have these wild parties. You'd see kids going in the house with beer, and hear them jumping off the patio roof into their pool. Drunk kids jumping into a not that deep pool - talk about a recipe for disaster! One morning, I found one of her guests passed out on my front lawn.

Yes, I did call the cops on her - time and again. And I wasn't ashamed to tell her I did as I figured it was for her safety.

I realize your daughter isn't this child. But, generally speaking, kids need supervision. When I was in in my early twenties, I remember being asked to stay with the teenage children of a family we knew from church. They had to leave town for a funeral and even though their children were in their mid-teens, they thought it was best to have an overseer to their daily life.

Smart parents. And then there's those wretched McCanns - who think it's just dandy to leave babies three and under alone. Ugghhhhh...they disgust me.

 

[Texana]

Those were great, safe times. I wouldn't even think of letting my kids do the same today.

I agree. Same as if, someone offered you a ride home when you were walking, you could accept without fear.

Yeah, the McCann comment about "same as being in the garden" is so galling.

 

[aussie_mum]

I can't even go to sleep if my kids are awake!

 

[CaliKid]

sleuthin4fun - Truthfully, if it were me (and it has been, in the past!), I would NOT leave my almost 17 year old daughter home alone.

One of my neighbors was a pilot for Delta, before he retired a few years ago. He and his wife would frequently go on trips, leaving their daughter home alone. She was a good kid but I think the temptation was too great - just about every time they left, she'd have these wild parties. You'd see kids going in the house with beer, and hear them jumping off the patio roof into their pool. Drunk kids jumping into a not that deep pool - talk about a recipe for disaster! One morning, I found one of her guests passed out on my front lawn.

Yes, I did call the cops on her - time and again. And I wasn't ashamed to tell her I did as I figured it was for her safety.

I realize your daughter isn't this child. But, generally speaking, kids need supervision. When I was in in my early twenties, I remember being asked to stay with the teenage children of a family we knew from church. They had to leave town for a funeral and even though their children were in their mid-teens, they thought it was best to have an overseer to their daily life.

Smart parents. And then there's those wretched McCanns - who think it's just dandy to leave babies three and under alone. Ugghhhhh...they disgust me.

Now me? I have a 17-year-old daughter, and I have no problem leaving her home by herself. She's a responsible girl, doesn't smoke or drink and I know all of her friends. They're all good kids. The three youngest and I went on a 4-day vacation last summer and she's at that age where she didn't want to go. I let her stay home, and she did just fine with two of her best friends taking turns keeping her company. I even asked the neighbors afterwards and they said there were no problems.

 

[docwho3]

According to a the N.G . TV show no one other than the parents saw little Madeleine alive after the time that was 2 hours before the dinner. If that is correct then the death of the child may have happened already and so they might have then decided to use the dinner to both build a fake alibi and also to deflect suspicion of a death by seeming to only be overly neglectful parents whose child was kidnapped.

This dinner act would cause people to think a death had not happened or at least had not yet happened.

This dinner act would set up a fake alibi for a faked time of a supposedly nondeath crime.

This dinner act would generate so much controversy over their alleged poor parenting as to deflect attention away from the thought of them having done anything criminal in the disappearance of little Madeleine.

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Why not hire someone to watch the children? My opinion is that it is possible: Perhaps they would have hired someone to watch the children if she had not died almost 2 hours before the dinner.

It is also possible they are innocent but for now the evidence being reported in MSM (Main Stream Media) seems to point at the parents being involved in the disappearance.

 

[BethInAK]

Heres a question, she will be 17. I had a breif thought of letting her stay at home by herself a few days. Thought that it would be nice for her because we live about 2 min. from her school. I am not sure that it is wise and, I would probably go crazy. What do you guys think?

My parents left me at 17, several times. I had the dog for protection and I was a responsible kid.
Do you have a neighbor who can watch out for inappropriate guests?

 

[Show Me]

IMO, Gerry and Kate McCann have a lot of nerve comparing what they did to leaving kids upstairs sleeping while the parents are "in the garden". For one thing your children are behind a locked door, and people's gardens (yards) are not 100 yards away across shrubbery, sidewalks, a parking lot and a swimming pool.

Exactly!

I hope they didn't give this advice to any patients of theirs!

"Doctor when can I leave my babies with a sitter?"

"Oh heck, forget the sitter...give them a sleeping pill, lock the door and go down the street to play bridge at the Jones'."

 

[goddess]

When you are a parent, you are one 24/7. Can't have it both ways.

What is both ways? Do parents have to give up their life aqnd sacrifice every bit of leisure once they have kids? Because I sure dont buy THAT old train of thought.

If you mean have your fun responsibly, with your kids well taken care of(not doped up!), then I totally agree.

 

[goddess]

I totally hear what you're saying.

What I see happening more and more with some people with kids is that the kids come along and are expected to ADAPT to the parents' lifestyle and not visa-versa. When you have kids, things CHANGE. You no longer have the freedom you did before and you have a lot more responsibility. I see more and more that people just expect the kids to fit into the lifestyle that existed before they came along, when (IMHO) it should be the other way around.

I toally disagree. When I had kids, I expected and still expect them to fit into MY schedule and world, while over the years carving out their own way of life with my guidance. I certainly will not change my lifestyle to fit any other human being, esp one I have to eventually kick out of the nest!

 

[Rino]

I just want to ask one question from my fellow sleuthers. Would you ever have left your toddlers alone to go out and eat dinner?

Never!

 

[goddess]

The parents did not hire anyone because they are neglectful, there is no other way around it. They are 100% responsible for what happened to their daughter by virtue of them neglecting her welfare. I actually quit college long ago when the baby was 2, due to his lazy father falling asleep and therefore neglecting him I came home one day, and the idiot says, Guess wat JR learned to do today? Open the screen door to the front deck!! I never went back.

To me, leaving three under four alone in a strange holiday apartment is a crime itself, and I dont know why the parents were not charged right away with neglect.

 

[goddess]

According to a the N.G . TV show no one other than the parents saw little Madeleine alive after the time that was 2 hours before the dinner. If that is correct then the death of the child may have happened already and so they might have then decided to use the dinner to both build a fake alibi and also to deflect suspicion of a death by seeming to only be overly neglectful parents whose child was kidnapped.

This dinner act would cause people to think a death had not happened or at least had not yet happened.

This dinner act would set up a fake alibi for a faked time of a supposedly nondeath crime.

This dinner act would generate so much controversy over their alleged poor parenting as to deflect attention away from the thought of them having done anything criminal in the disappearance of little Madeleine.

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Why not hire someone to watch the children? My opinion is that it is possible: Perhaps they would have hired someone to watch the children if she had not died almost 2 hours before the dinner.

It is also possible they are innocent but for now the evidence being reported in MSM (Main Stream Media) seems to point at the parents being involved in the disappearance.

Excellent points!

 

[Rino]

I had to travel to Hawaii for a trial some years back and was originally going to be gone for six weeks. My mother in law flew in from Germany to stay with my husband and kids. I ended up only being gone for three weeks, but it was the longest three weeks of my life!!! I'll never do that again. I was in paradise and didn't even enjoy it.

I have never traveled without my kids until my oldest graduated hs. I not only worried something would happen to them but God forbid something happened to my husband and I, leaving them on their own.

 

[goddess]

Exactly!

I hope they didn't give this advice to any patients of theirs!

"Doctor when can I leave my babies with a sitter?"

"Oh heck, forget the sitter...give them a sleeping pill, lock the door and go down the street to play bridge at the Jones'."

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Rino]

englisleigh- It is really hard no matter what age they are to leave them. If I had my way we wouldn't go but, my husband says "we are going." I even said I would stay home and the rest could go. "No deal" he says. I know that it will be a good time. I just seems so weird to plan a trip with her not included. I guess maybe it's time I let go a little. I will admit I am not good at it.
Heres a question, she will be 17. I had a breif thought of letting her stay at home by herself a few days. Thought that it would be nice for her because we live about 2 min. from her school. I am not sure that it is wise and, I would probably go crazy. What do you guys think?

Hard call. I could not do it, so if forced I would not enjoy the trip. (my husband says I owe him for years of missed trips because of it - cool )

 

[sleuthin4fun]

sleuthin4fun - Truthfully, if it were me (and it has been, in the past!), I would NOT leave my almost 17 year old daughter home alone.

One of my neighbors was a pilot for Delta, before he retired a few years ago. He and his wife would frequently go on trips, leaving their daughter home alone. She was a good kid but I think the temptation was too great - just about every time they left, she'd have these wild parties. You'd see kids going in the house with beer, and hear them jumping off the patio roof into their pool. Drunk kids jumping into a not that deep pool - talk about a recipe for disaster! One morning, I found one of her guests passed out on my front lawn.

Yes, I did call the cops on her - time and again. And I wasn't ashamed to tell her I did as I figured it was for her safety.

I realize your daughter isn't this child. But, generally speaking, kids need supervision. When I was in in my early twenties, I remember being asked to stay with the teenage children of a family we knew from church. They had to leave town for a funeral and even though their children were in their mid-teens, they thought it was best to have an overseer to their daily life.

Smart parents. And then there's those wretched McCanns - who think it's just dandy to leave babies three and under alone. Ugghhhhh...they disgust me.

I know that things happened like this when I was in high school. I am truely not inclined to leave her alone and she does have a place to stay but, kinda wondered if I am being freakishly over protective.

 

[sleuthin4fun]

I can't even go to sleep if my kids are awake!

Me either aussie!

 

[sleuthin4fun]

Now me? I have a 17-year-old daughter, and I have no problem leaving her home by herself. She's a responsible girl, doesn't smoke or drink and I know all of her friends. They're all good kids. The three youngest and I went on a 4-day vacation last summer and she's at that age where she didn't want to go. I let her stay home, and she did just fine with two of her best friends taking turns keeping her company. I even asked the neighbors afterwards and they said there were no problems.

See cali, This is were I struggle. My daughter is very responsible and I know that there would be no drinking , smoking ect... My biggest concern is someone knowing she is home alone and harm coming to her. I think I watch to many movies and read this site too often.