Why hasn't there been an arrest?

[redheadedgal]

is there "one piece of conclusive evidence" there was a SODDI? i must've missed it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

is there "one piece of conclusive evidence" there was a SODDI? i must've missed it.

I haven't seen any conclusive evidence showing that anyone did "it" whether the "it" is a kidnapping, an accidental death, or premeditated murder.

 

[brit1981]

is there "one piece of conclusive evidence" there was a SODDI? i must've missed it.

I actually said - I do not agree with this statement. I have not seen one piece of conclusive evidence that lends weight to any particular theory as to what happened and who was involved, let alone enough weight to convince me that the child is dead and her parents did it.

I really do no think that a lack of conclusive evidence of a stranger abudction is enough to make me vilify the parents. Look at jessica Lunsford (I think that is her name please correct me if I am wrong), kidnapped from her home, yet no sign of an intruder or a struggle, and her family did not pass a lie detector. I wonder how the people who vilified her family feel.

 

[hambirg]

I haven't seen any conclusive evidence showing that anyone did "it" whether the "it" is a kidnapping, an accidental death, or premeditated murder.

Uh. . .maybe the fact that a 10 month old is missing, and she didn't leave on her own. :waitasec:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Uh. . .maybe the fact that a 10 month old is missing, and she didn't leave on her own. :waitasec:

I'm not following your post. The fact that Lisa's missing doesn't tell us what happened.

 

[hambirg]

I'm not following your post. The fact that Lisa's missing doesn't tell us what happened.

You said that there wasn't any conclusive evidence that anyone did "it."

I'm saying that the fact that a 10 month old is missing out of her home is pretty conclusive evidence that someone did "it."

 

[Deleted member 39678]

You said that there wasn't any conclusive evidence that anyone did "it."

I'm saying that the fact that a 10 month old is missing out of her home is pretty conclusive evidence that someone did "it."

Your misunderstanding my post. The "it" that I had in my post listed kidnapping, an accidental death and premeditated murder. I'm aware that it's impossible for a 10 month old child to run away from home.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I'm not following your post. The fact that Lisa's missing doesn't tell us what happened.

It tells me what happened.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It tells me what happened.

I don't see how the fact that Lisa is missing could tell you what happened. If your referring to your opinion about what happened that's different then the conclusive evidence that I'm talking about.

Let me say it this way. We do not have conclusive evidence at this time which can tell us what happened to Lisa Irwin and who is responsible. JMO.

 

[hambirg]

Your misunderstanding my post. The "it" that I had in my post listed kidnapping, an accidental death and premeditated murder. I'm aware that it's impossible for a 10 month old child to run away from home.

Ok. . .there is no conclusive evidence pointing to which of those happened. . .yet we know one of those three has to be the true.

I guess lack of conclusive evidence doesn't make anyone one of those any less true.

I guess the next step would be to look at circumstantial evidence. :waitasec:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Ok. . .there is no conclusive evidence pointing to which of those happened. . .yet we know one of those three has to be the true.

I guess lack of conclusive evidence doesn't make anyone one of those any less true.

I guess the next step would be to look at circumstantial evidence. :waitasec:

I agree. Something happened to Lisa, we just don't know what. Circumstantial evidence can be very good in showing what happened and by who, depending on what it is. This is where some debate can come up on what we have as evidence in this case and what it means. JMO.

 

[brit1981]

The thing is on the evidence, or more to the point lack of evidence, anything could have happenned. I have known people to be burgled when they are fast asleep and not realise until morning (even people with dogs), and there to have been no obvious signs of a break in. Its scary. So yes lisa's parents could ahve done something to her and managed to hide her so well she has not been found, but equally on the evidence someone could have got into the home walked into lisa's room picked her up and walked out again in the space of five minutes when everyone was in a deep sleep. e just do not know.

 

[4Jacy]

The thing is on the evidence, or more to the point lack of evidence, anything could have happenned. I have known people to be burgled when they are fast asleep and not realise until morning (even people with dogs), and there to have been no obvious signs of a break in. Its scary. So yes lisa's parents could ahve done something to her and managed to hide her so well she has not been found, but equally on the evidence someone could have got into the home walked into lisa's room picked her up and walked out again in the space of five minutes when everyone was in a deep sleep. e just do not know.

And this "intruder" took the cell phones why? The fact that the cell phones were taken says it all, at least to me.

 

[kkdj]

And this "intruder" took the cell phones why? The fact that the cell phones were taken says it all, at least to me.

Hello
Could you ease explain the "all" it says? I mean the intruder taking the cell phones. I have always thought this was one of the lies.
Thanks

 

[kkdj]

Consider, Nancy Grace, was an Atlanta, GA Prosecutor....

Enough said...

If I recall correctly, in the very beginning of this missing child case, NG showed some suspicion of the father Jeremy pulling his first work all nighter ever. Just so happened to be on the night his little baby daughter went missing. That has always stood out to me.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

If I recall correctly, in the very beginning of this missing child case, NG showed some suspicion of the father Jeremy pulling his first work all nighter ever. Just so happened to be on the night his little baby daughter went missing. That has always stood out to me.

That is something that stands out. If someone wanted to enter Jeremy's home while he was away, they picked the correct night.

Maybe the next question is this. Who would know that he would be away that night on a job?

 

[kkdj]

That is something that stands out. If someone wanted to enter Jeremy's home while he was away, they picked the correct night.

Maybe the next question is this. Who would know that he would be away that night on a job?

I questioned the coincidence of this from the start. We know that Jeremy, Debbie and her neighbor friend knew he was out that night. I don't know if their boys knew he was pulling an all nighter.
Is it fact that Jeremy was working until 4 a.m?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I questioned the coincidence of this from the start. We know that Jeremy, Debbie and her neighbor friend knew he was out that night. I don't know if their boys knew he was pulling an all nighter.
Is it fact that Jeremy was working until 4 a.m?

We know that the family and maybe the neighbor should have known about Jeremy working late that night. As for anyone else knowing it's hard to say.

I believe that the timeline says that Jeremy worked at the Starbucks until 3:30AM, got home around 3:45AM and called 911 around 4:00AM.

 

[kkdj]

We know that the family and maybe the neighbor should have known about Jeremy working late that night. As for anyone else knowing it's hard to say.

I believe that the timeline says that Jeremy worked at the Starbucks until 3:30AM, got home around 3:45AM and called 911 around 4:00AM.

I wonder if there is any concrete verification of this. I'm not saying it not true, I have just always questioned the coincidence. Heck! I even question whether Debbie was truly drunk that night or if it's just a ruse! Again, I'm not saying it's not the truth, but I can see other scenarios that make for a different puzzle

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I wonder if there is any concrete verification of this. I'm not saying it not true, I have just always questioned the coincidence. Heck! I even question whether Debbie was truly drunk that night or if it's just a ruse! Again, I'm not saying it's not the truth, but I can see other scenarios that make for a different puzzle

I'm not sure what you are asking for "concrete verification" of but here's a link to a police dash cam video that is time stamped. That should give you an idea when Jeremy called 911.


http://www.kctv5.com/story/16612025/dashcam-baby-lisa