Why Have George and Cindy Requested a Video Visitation With Casey?

[Aedrys]

NO! Does anyone have a link to the motion?

Mel

It's only on the docket right now, I think. I can't wait to see it, though! LOL

 

[Aedrys]

At this moment, I love love LOVE Richard Hornsby, just for this title, :floorlaugh::

Should they Stay or Should they Go? May 5th, 2011 by Richard Hornsby.


http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/should-they-stay-or-should-they-go/

sing it with me!
Should they stay or should they go now?
Should they stay or should they go now?
If they go there will be trouble
An' If they stay it will be double
Come on, JP, and let them know
Should they stay or should they go?

(and now this version is stuck in my head, LOL)

 

[LolaMoon08]

It's only on the docket right now, I think. I can't wait to see it, though! LOL

Wouldn't it be lovely if they brought up the fact that not only did Cindy testify that Caylee was still alive (911 hearings and state deposition), but she also wrote letters to Casey that when she gets out of jail that they will find Caylee together? Bring her own lies back to bite her in the rear? That their "motion" to be present for the trial is based on a lie because they do not believe they are the "next of kin" to the victim in this case... because according to them the victim in this case is still alive??

Also... I said this in the other thread... Casey loves torturing her parents. A few weeks ago she was smiling at Cindy and even thanked her... now she is stabbing her in the heart by telling the Anthony's that they are NOT Caylee's next of kin! That SHE IS!! That she is tired of them using Caylee's name to benefit themselves.

Man this is getting ugly! I'm waiting for the Anthony's attorney to release another statement!!

 

[Softail]

JB - :snooty: :silenced: :doorhide: :ignore: :couch: :cupcake:


A's & Lippman - :slap: :tears: anic: ullhair: :slapfight: :bigfight: :rage: :gasp: :dramaqueen:




:giggle:

 

[JSR]

I can't wait to read this objection.

 

[Melanie]

Help me out here:

On one hand, the Florida Constitution provides that the “victims of crime or their lawful representatives, including the next of kin of homicide victims, are entitled to the right to be informed, to be present, and to be heard when relevant, at all crucial stages of criminal proceedings, to the extent that these rights do not interfere with the constitutional rights of the accused.”

Caylee is the homicide victim
The next of kin is ICA

How does this apply to G & C since Caylee Marie is the victim and not their next their next of kin - ICA is.

Mel

 

[gngr~snap]

Now I get why CA went on and on about how she had to protect grandpa from Yuri making it clear ICA should do the same... and in the next breath
she tells ICA not to worry about protecting LA GA or her.

* hey! maybe GA and CA are going to take ICA into witness "protection" GA said he could make that happen. :floorlaugh:

 

[mysteriew]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.

Just my opinion of course

 

[LolaMoon08]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.

Oh, I agree 100%!! I have always believed that it was Casey who was calling the shots! I never thought that JB had a huge role in Casey not accepting her parents visits. Casey sure liked to blame JB and JB had no problem taking the blame for it so that it didn't make Casey look heartless and cruel.

Now not only do we have Cindy and George's attorney blaming JB in the media for not even giving them the courtesy of giving them an answer... you have the defense, who files these motions on their clients behalf, wanting the Anthony's out of that courtroom for the duration of the trial... because you know they will simply state that they could be called back as witnesses so they will not excuse them as witnesses. Casey does not want her parents in that courtroom. She does not want to see them.

I think the lines have been drawn pretty clearly... Casey wants nothing to do with her parents as she is about to do something during this trial that is going to destroy them even more than her taking Caylee away from them... I know nothing should have been worse than Caylee being murdered, but we're dealing with the Anthony's here.

I sure hope Lee is paying attention! I think him not filing a motion to be excluded from the rules of sequestration says a lot. He's not falling on a sword for Casey... and I think he sees everything for what it is... at least I hope he does.

 

[momshrink]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.

Just my opinion of course

I agree with you. I do not like these people and think that they have interfered with the investigation, perjured themselves, etc. BUT. I think they do love their daughter and feel that she is being badly advised and want to protect and advise her. I think they see the death penalty looming and feel they are lost her to this already. Three years is a long time to not be able to see your daughter, but know that she lives close by.
I also think it is ICA's decision not to see them,but I think the DT encourages this.
I am sad for these parents. It is often very sad when people realize the consequences of their actions and that there is no do over and your cannot fix it.
And suffering in public as they are must be horrible. And they are suffering and will for the rest of their natural lives.
ICA will not suffer in this way. She does not like the loss of her freedom and she is scared of dying at the hands of the state. But she will not suffer the way CA and GA are and will continue to.
I know this is not popular and it is very hard to relate to this couple. But, I think it is very, very sad.
JMO

 

[logicalgirl]

I agree with you. I do not like these people and think that they have interfered with the investigation, perjured themselves, etc. BUT. I think they do love their daughter and feel that she is being badly advised and want to protect and advise her. I think they see the death penalty looming and feel they are lost her to this already. Three years is a long time to not be able to see your daughter, but know that she lives close by.
I also think it is ICA's decision not to see them,but I think the DT encourages this.
I am sad for these parents. It is often very sad when people realize the consequences of their actions and that there is no do over and your cannot fix it.
And suffering in public as they are must be horrible. And they are suffering and will for the rest of their natural lives.
ICA will not suffer in this way. She does not like the loss of her freedom and she is scared of dying at the hands of the state. But she will not suffer the way CA and GA are and will continue to.
I know this is not popular and it is very hard to relate to this couple. But, I think it is very, very sad.
JMO

I agree with you and thank you for saying the above. It is a real tragedy.

 

[logicalgirl]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.

Just my opinion of course

Or else she has no further use for them.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Or else she has no further use for them.

And THERE IT IS!

 

[gngr~snap]

JB may not be the only one advising ICA. MAYBE her psychologist/psychiatrist has advised her to cease contact?

I'm sure that comment won't be a popular opinion but toxic people trash others lives ...
we have NO IDEA what ICA possibly endured in that home
MOO

 

[darnudes]

Or else she has no further use for them.

Just one, her court room clothes. I'd be telling ICA she can stick them where the sun don't shine, but that's me.

Wow, I'm blown away by Lippmann calling Baez out- Guess I was wrong and this has nothing to do with ICA at all. You know it's mind boggling that Baez can have a 5 min chat in court with Cindy about ICA's court attire yet does not have the time or the courtesy to pick up the phone and tell her "no way jose" to a visit. Just blows me away.

How down and dirty is it going to get against George and Cindy?

 

[Curious Me]

The discarding of a narcissist of those who have no present usefulness is usually harsh. However, now she may need to employ them again.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I think that it is safe to assume that there will be NO visits before this trial or even during this trial... after this trial?? I don't even know if that is going to happen??

I knew Cindy and George were going to be in for a really rude awakening... but I don't even think my imagination has been able to go to where this is going to go.... ugly seems like too simple of a word for what we are about to witness.

Where's the webcam's when you need them??

 

[countzero]

I think the big AHA moment will come when CA lets Jose have it, what she really thinks of him - on the stand. :innocent:

CA will feel satisfied after having to do three years of kissing up to him.

None of that has stopped Cindy from completely changing her testimony about the dryer sheets during the Frye hearings. None of that stopped George from changing his testimony about his "missing binder" during the "Casey was under arrest" hearing in early March.

None of that has stopped Cindy from claiming that Caylee was alive (on the stand and under oath) during the 911 hearings and now they have filed a motion with the court wanting to be present during the trial for the victim in this case... Caylee. An alive Caylee? Or is she now deceased only because it benefits them? It wasn't too long ago that Cindy was writing letters to Casey talking about finding an alive Caylee when Casey gets out of jail.

They have proven over and over again that they are willing to change their testimony to benefit themselves. I believe 100% if they are going to testify that Casey has admitted to them that this was a tragic accident that their testimony is going to change considerably. I think it will all start with their testimony about the first time they had ever heard of the name "Zanny the Nanny." These little visits may even be used to get George and Cindy's story out about why they lied... or were simply mistaken about the dates.

I knew things were going to start getting crazy right before this trial... but I didn't realize they were going to get this crazy... maybe I am just super paranoid, but this family makes me that way. Nothing surprises me with them. :banghead:

While I don't disagree with this, we have heard many times from the legal people here that these hearings are different than the trial. Already the SAO is asking for previous hearings transcripts concerning the testimony of CA and GA. Their sympathy, what's left of it, for the As will be gone. Like mine went back on July 16, 08.

Linda, Jeff and George won't hold back with any of the As. They will hold each one of them to the fire with their previous testimonies.

And if any of them drastically change or admit the zany story is just that .... watch for those handcuffs to be snapped on an As wrist faster than grease lightnin'. One for lying, two for spending the states budget, three because they are an Anthony.

Nope, the As, like ICA are locked into Zanny, like ICA is to the 31 days.

After reading Cheney's motion to objection to the As motion, it's the first and only good read from the DT to date. I actually agree with Cheney. Oh good grief did I really, truly say that.

Like I said up thread, this is motion is CA doing a CYA and it didn't work then and it ain'tta gonna work now.

 

[azwriter]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.Just my opinion of course

A good post that makes me think. The BBM lines is something I agree with. I don't know about the anger ICA has or had for her parents, but I can guess she didn't like the constant questions about Caylee and what happened or where she might be. I think ICA wanted no parts of being grilled about her missing daughter.

What I do find interesting among the questions from the Anthonys' to their daughter is never once did either ask ICA why Caylee needed to be with a Nanny so much of the time. Surely GA and CA knew Casey wasn't holding down a job and had no need for a round the clock Nanny. But, they never asked her where she was and what was she doing that required for Caylee be watched by another person outside the family.
jmo

 

[MissJames]

This isn't going to be popular. But in my heart I wonder if it isn't just what it looks like. A set of parents who realizes that their daughter is going on trial for her life in a few days. A set of parents who are also possibly reacting to the fact that KC broke down in tears in court the other day. (OK, it was when the judge was talking about the seriousness of the trial, but there were finally some tears) That maybe they wanted to tell her they love her or wish her luck or something.

I know it is entirely possible that this might be cooked up to get a new story in front of the public. And it wouldn't surprise me at all. But I guess in my heart I just want to see some proof that they have come to the realization that this is real and serious and is going to happen.

The A's imply that they chose not to visit KC, because of the publicity. And there have been hints that maybe they believe the refusals to see them were on JB's orders. But I have always believed that KC herself made the decision not to see the A's. JB may have broken the news to them, he may have given the excuse of the publicity. But I really think it was KC's decision not to see them. And it wasn't because of the publicity, it was because she was angry with them.

Just my opinion of course

They had bat phones to circumvent LE. They were sneaking letters into ICA by her attorney (whatever happened to that :waitasec.
Maybe it IS just 2 loving parents,but they lost the right to be trusted ,IMO.
But that's just me .:innocent: