Why haven't any Friends, Neighbors, CoWorkers talked ?

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  • #121
Just curious...and I mean no disrespect, but what is your logic for arriving at the bold statement above? Perhaps you know something that we don't. I also don't quite understand what you mean by keeping it real. I see real as washing pants and withholding receipts from LE and that would cause me concern right about now if I was in CA's shoes, given that this is an ongoing investigation...MOO. Not to mention the tips and nebulous Caylee sightings that have not panned out...

I'm sure that LE does not consider these off the wall or irrelevant things. JMO.

And as an aside, I would hope that in the same situation, someone would stop enabling me if my behavior was as manipulative as CA's and give me a major reality check. If my behavior was above board, which hers has not been, then I would hope folks would give me the benefit of the doubt. Again, my thoughts.

Cindy is not a suspect in any crime and has every legal right not to turn over her credit card statements without a warrant. She can not be charged with obstruction of justice for that. Likewise washing the pants. She was not aware at the time that she washed them that a crime had been committed. She volunteered the information to LE. If she had lied and said she did not find the pants in the car she could have, if the prosecutor wanted to be a jerk, faced charges. But that wasn't the case so it doesn't matter.

How is Cindy supposed to know whether a tip is legitimate or if it will "pan out"? Should she keep the tips to herself? Regardless, she is not obstructing justice with the tips. Casey's arrest is proof of that.

I truly do not see Cindy's behavior as being that bad considering the circumstances, certainly not as bad as people make it out to be. I see lots of twisting, lots of attacking, lots of specultation - but nothing that makes her look as evil as people like to pretend she is.

LE has not arrested her and have said she's cooperating. If someone on this board has information showing that an arrest is pending, I'd sure like to see it.
 
  • #122
Chilly Willy, I was searching all the threads looking for this friendship connection..jeeze..this is how rumours get started. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

Just like when Casey said "If they never find her guess who gets to spends eternity in jail?". The word "never" was changed around to "ever". Not defending Casey, but that's how things have been.
 
  • #123
So true! Funny that nobody from her past has come out to say anything even the least bit supportive of Cindy!

"Silence is very imporant. The silence between the notes are as important as the notes themselves." - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart


Think my signature may apply here.

VVV
 
  • #124
Cindy is not a suspect in any crime and has every legal right not to turn over her credit card statements without a warrant. She can not be charged with obstruction of justice for that. Likewise washing the pants. She was not aware at the time that she washed them that a crime had been committed. She volunteered the information to LE. If she had lied and said she did not find the pants in the car she could have, if the prosecutor wanted to be a jerk, faced charges. But that wasn't the case so it doesn't matter.

How is Cindy supposed to know whether a tip is legitimate or if it will "pan out"? Should she keep the tips to herself? Regardless, she is not obstructing justice with the tips. Casey's arrest is proof of that.

I truly do not see Cindy's behavior as being that bad considering the circumstances, certainly not as bad as people make it out to be. I see lots of twisting, lots of attacking, lots of specultation - but nothing that makes her look as evil as people like to pretend she is.

LE has not arrested her and have said she's cooperating. If someone on this board has information showing that an arrest is pending, I'd sure like to see it.

I agree. If she really wanted to obstruct justice, she shouldn't have called the police in the first place. I don't see that she obstructed justice in the beginning. If anything she brought LE into the situation.

Can't say I agree with every move she has made though. But you would have to actually be in that situation to understand her actions.
 
  • #125
Just like when Casey said "If they never find her guess who gets to spends eternity in jail?". The word "never" was changed around to "ever". Not defending Casey, but that's how things have been.

Ok, here's another example of decomposition. :crazy:
No duh, Cindy. No duh if you have evidence of death and a missing child and a mother who won't say anything reasonable she gets a jail card.
No duh.:bang::bang:
 
  • #126
Ok, here's another example of decomposition. :crazy:
No duh, Cindy. No duh if you have evidence of death and a missing child and a mother who won't say anything reasonable she gets a jail card.
No duh.:bang::bang:

Why does a quote made by Casey merit an attack on Cindy? :waitasec:
 
  • #127
right but you would think a former employee or friend from her past or someone might say something. I think she had no friends maybe she scared them all away. You dont even see any family rallying around them at all.

You think maybe a home health care company would say, "Yes, we've always thought our supervising case manager was one sandwich short of a picnic?"

They aren't gonna alarm the patients by saying anything, at all.

MOO
 
  • #128
It does not look like there have been many supporters, but we have no idea if there have been many offers and they have asked them to stay away and not give any statements. There have been people show up for the vigils to show support.
In my own life, I can think of co-workers I've had who show a personality something like Cindy's. if there was ever something happen like has happened here, my instinct would be to not be speaking out publicly, there would be no reason for me to be bad-mouthing them to the public. The only people I would be saying anything to would be the police and that is only if I had anything of interest for them with the investigation.

VB

I'm with you.
 
  • #129
I hadn't thought of it before but I am glad you brought this up. I am not surprised that no one has stepped forward to defend Cindy or the family. I believe I read somewhere that Cindy has asked Casey's friends not to talk to media, if so I think she probably also asked her friends not to. So the fact that there haven't been any supporters doesn't surprise me.

But one thing does surprise me. No other associates of the family has stepped forward either. Almost every case has them. One or more persons who step forward claiming to have had a close relationship, but may have been just an aquaintance. They often speak nicely of the family, but add in a few questionable incidents. There has also not been any former coworkers or aquaintances that speak negatively about the A's. We all have someone in our past who were jealous of us, don't like us, want to get involved, want attention or whatever that in this situation would jump in to speak negatively. But there doesn't seem to have been any this time.

IMO this does speak positively for the other A family members. Whatever they were like before this happened, they either didn't have any enemies, didn't have anyone jealous of them, or they feel sorry for them. Of course they could just be waiting to see if Cindy gets charged with anything.
 
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Cindy is not a suspect in any crime and has every legal right not to turn over her credit card statements without a warrant. She can not be charged with obstruction of justice for that. Likewise washing the pants. She was not aware at the time that she washed them that a crime had been committed. She volunteered the information to LE. If she had lied and said she did not find the pants in the car she could have, if the prosecutor wanted to be a jerk, faced charges. But that wasn't the case so it doesn't matter.

How is Cindy supposed to know whether a tip is legitimate or if it will "pan out"? Should she keep the tips to herself? Regardless, she is not obstructing justice with the tips. Casey's arrest is proof of that.

I truly do not see Cindy's behavior as being that bad considering the circumstances, certainly not as bad as people make it out to be. I see lots of twisting, lots of attacking, lots of specultation - but nothing that makes her look as evil as people like to pretend she is.

LE has not arrested her and have said she's cooperating. If someone on this board has information showing that an arrest is pending, I'd sure like to see it.

Actually, it IS illegal to lie to the police, and to lie under oath. LE has confronted CA about one, and we've seen her do the other.

Why LE has not charged her with either is their business.
 
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Since its not a crime to lie...let me say what a wonderful person I think Cindy is. What a fine job she did raising her daughter and how I think she should be nominated for mother of the year, right along with Casey.

NOT!
 
  • #134
Why does a quote made by Casey merit an attack on Cindy? :waitasec:

Has Cindy searched for Caylee? All fact does point to Casey as being responsible for Caylee's untimely demise and mysterious disappearance, so either way, with or without Caylee's body, Casey will be held accountable.
Following that reasoning, Cindy has nothing to lose by getting out in the swampland, landfills... to look for her. Unless, of course, she and George are still monitoring and gathering evidence against their rich and powerful kidnapper.
Have you seen any overt efforts on her part to dispel the mystery of what happened and how and where this baby girl was disposed of?
And I don't consider this to be an attack. It's more like a shout, a plea for reason.:eek:
 
  • #135
I have wondered about this too. The absence speaks loudly to me.

It SCREAMS to me. It screams that this family has no real friends or family to stand up for them. I think they have many acquaitenancesm but few, if any, friends. When my daughter was going through tough times, she had at least 25 people step up for her and she's only been on that job for 6 months.
 
  • #136
If she had lied and said she did not find the pants in the car she could have, if the prosecutor wanted to be a jerk, faced charges.

Ok, so I understand your logic - prosecutors would be considered "jerks" by you if they chose to press charges against someone (anyone) who was found to have lied to detectives during an investigation of a missing child?

Yes, CA willingly admitted to LE that she found the pants in the car - after she washed them. It's not hard to own up to the truth after you've had a chance to effect it's worthiness to your best interests in the case.

By the time the investigators needed evidence from KC's car, CA had long switched gears from her initial 911 calls as a frantic grandmother to a desperate mother hoping not to lose her daughter as well.
 
  • #137
I hadn't thought of it before but I am glad you brought this up. I am not surprised that no one has stepped forward to defend Cindy or the family. I believe I read somewhere that Cindy has asked Casey's friends not to talk to media, if so I think she probably also asked her friends not to. So the fact that there haven't been any supporters doesn't surprise me.

But one thing does surprise me. No other associates of the family has stepped forward either. Almost every case has them. One or more persons who step forward claiming to have had a close relationship, but may have been just an aquaintance. They often speak nicely of the family, but add in a few questionable incidents. There has also not been any former coworkers or aquaintances that speak negatively about the A's. We all have someone in our past who were jealous of us, don't like us, want to get involved, want attention or whatever that in this situation would jump in to speak negatively. But there doesn't seem to have been any this time.

IMO this does speak positively for the other A family members. Whatever they were like before this happened, they either didn't have any enemies, didn't have anyone jealous of them, or they feel sorry for them. Of course they could just be waiting to see if Cindy gets charged with anything.
I believe Cindy told Casey's friends to not talk to LE, not the media.
I dont' think this dysfunctional family let anyone in their secret web os lies. They have no friends imo. The skeletons are too big to be exposed. The lies are too big. Caring people will step up for acquaintences. My feeling is that the only people speaking for the family are people they've met through the death of Caylee and people who don't know them at all. They don't encourage closeness imo.
 
  • #138
I believe Cindy told Casey's friends to not talk to LE, not the media.
I dont' think this dysfunctional family let anyone in their secret web os lies. They have no friends imo. The skeletons are too big to be exposed. The lies are too big. Caring people will step up for acquaintences. My feeling is that the only people speaking for the family are people they've met through the death of Caylee and people who don't know them at all. They don't encourage closeness imo.

I'm not a Cindy supporter. I believe that she has made many mistakes in the search for her granddaughter, and I wonder how close she has come to being arrested herself for after the fact actions. If she worked with LE the way she worked with the media, then I would guess she is real close.

But when there is someone that secretive, that dysfunctional and with no friends, there is usually someone who is speaking against them. Saying they were secretive, dysfunctional, stuck up, or whatever. If they aren't speaking openly to media, they are often speaking out anon. in the comments of the media articles. Someone who is not liked or different in any way will have people speaking out against them. People who know them speaking against them is more common than people speaking for them. That is what has surprised me.

It makes me wonder if Cindy wasn't pretty easy to get along with on the job- before. Maybe she didn't talk about problems at work or maybe as much in denial before as after. Maybe the dysfunction and behavior we see now wasn't really as apparent before. The stress from current events would exaggerate any dysfunction would exaggerate her public responses. I don't know, I just find it unusual.
 
  • #139
You think maybe a home health care company would say, "Yes, we've always thought our supervising case manager was one sandwich short of a picnic?"

They aren't gonna alarm the patients by saying anything, at all.

MOO


true but I thought somebody in her past might want thier 15 minutes of fame and come forward to say something. Just like that friend or neighbor that was on nancy grace way back when she never really had anything to say but she wanted to be on tv.
 
  • #140
Where did you get that Cindy is my friend? I don't know Cindy and have no feelings about her personally on any level. I just like to keep things real. I see her attacked repeatedly for the most off the wall irrelevant things - and I point them out. I would hope in the same situation, someone would do that for me.

Cindy has not been charged with anything and it doesn't appear that she will be.

Dude, I'd sure as hell do my best to stick up for you (on the things that I feel deserve defening anyway, I think you know that much about me LOL) but I'd probably end up banned so you'd owe me one! ;)
 
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