Why? What was the motive?

Jeana (DP) said:
Darin was gone longer than the 20 or 30 minutes it would have taken to take Dana home that night. I'm not sure how much longer, not hours, but longer. I don't believe anything was going on between the two, but I believe Darlie was just about going nuts during that period (I'm thinking a week, two weeks) and in her mind, anything was possible.
How do you know Darin was gone longer than the 30 minutes? Is it a gut feeling or do you have information you can share on it?
 
beesy said:
I don't think they were having an affair. I'm saying it wouldn't surprise me if Darlie was paranoid over it. I don't think her mind was quite right that day. She might have even suffered from a temporary psychosis, which includes delusional thoughts.
It doesn't change the timeline of the murder, but if he did take a little longer than normal to come home, it could have increased Darlie's general pissiness.
Agreed but we almost have to rely on evidence in this area because there are so many ifs that could be speculated. Not disputing you, just not ready to accept it.
 
beesy said:
I too feel she had the thought in her head for awhile. I didn't mean it totally on the spur of the moment. When I watch the Silly String tape, I see a woman free of her burdens. Perhaps thinking ahead about the boys being "gone" allowed that.


That almost has to be certain. She is too accepting too fast for it not to be. I think the turning point in the family dynamics occurred on or shortly after the suicide threat/attempt.


beesy said:
Is it too far-fetched to see the two D's looking into some sort of insurance scam together? But then they couldn't get it finalized or changed their minds. With Darlie's state of mind by the time of the murders, maybe she realized that was the only way? children.


Insurance scam? I don't understand.

beesy said:
I do think there was an argument about a separtion and money that night and maybe Darlie said she'd just do it her damn self. And he said have at it, not believing she had it in her to stab anybody, much less their own
There is a poster at A&E who thinks Darin had Darlie do the dirty work because he didn't have the stomach for it.

beesy said:
Where is the 3.5 minutes coming in? I don't understand that.
5.5 min 911 call deducted from the 9 minutes Damon was said to have lived after receiving the fatal wounds = 3.5 minutes.
 
Goody said:
Agreed but we almost have to rely on evidence in this area because there are so many ifs that could be speculated. Not disputing you, just not ready to accept it.
I am thinking along the lines of what beesy is thinking. I think she was just pissed off at the world and anything that ANYBODY did that didn't suit her had to pay for it. Sadly, everybody, Darin AND THE KIDS were not pleasing her. I forgot who said this...but someone said that Darlie and Darin were more interested in their relationship than the welfare of the children. I still think even though they fought(who the heck doesn't) they were hot and heavy on each other. They have the need to be worshiped. They both fulfilled each others need in that area.:sick:
 
deandaniellws said:
I am thinking along the lines of what beesy is thinking. I think she was just pissed off at the world and anything that ANYBODY did that didn't suit her had to pay for it. Sadly, everybody, Darin AND THE KIDS were not pleasing her. I forgot who said this...but someone said that Darlie and Darin were more interested in their relationship than the welfare of the children. I still think even though they fought(who the heck doesn't) they were hot and heavy on each other. They have the need to be worshiped. They both fulfilled each others need in that area.:sick:
I can't rule it out, but I would like to hear more about the family dynamics before adding it to my list of events in this case.
 
Goody said:
I can't rule it out, but I would like to hear more about the family dynamics before adding it to my list of events in this case.
I would love to also. Why the heck can't we find someone who knows her personally! :mad:
 
deandaniellws said:
I forgot who said this...but someone said that Darlie and Darin were more interested in their relationship than the welfare of the children. I still think even though they fought(who the heck doesn't) they were hot and heavy on each other. They have the need to be worshiped. They both fulfilled each others need in that area.:sick:
I've said that before, but I doubt I'm the only one. I've said it recently though :D
 
Goody said:
Agreed but we almost have to rely on evidence in this area because there are so many ifs that could be speculated. Not disputing you, just not ready to accept it.
yeah, but isn't that a fun thought?
 
Goody said:
Insurance scam? I don't understand.

It's too far-fetched, even for me!

There is a poster at A&E who thinks Darin had Darlie do the dirty work because he didn't have the stomach for it

Nah

5.5 min 911 call deducted from the 9 minutes Damon was said to have lived after receiving the fatal wounds = 3.5 minutes.

Explain again what she had to do in those 3.5 minutes
 
From what I've read about Darlie, she seems to be an extremely narcissistic, attention-seeking person. Am I right in saying she once made a false accusation of rape because Darin wasn't paying her enough attention at a party? Then there are her suicidal thoughts...so you have someone who wants attention, attention, attention all the time. Maybe that indicates a desperate need to feel loved, who knows? But she's also suicidal, she's literally self-destructive. A state of mind that can't have been helped by those diet pills she was chucking down her throat...
I think she intended to kill herself after murdering her boys but at the last minute she couldn't quite bring herself to finish the act. The whole thing was meant to be aimed at Darin- "Look what you made me do"...and maybe it's his immense guilt that has caused him to go along with the intruder theory.

Happy 2006, by the way!
 
britgirl said:
From what I've read about Darlie, she seems to be an extremely narcissistic, attention-seeking person. Am I right in saying she once made a false accusation of rape because Darin wasn't paying her enough attention at a party? Then there are her suicidal thoughts...so you have someone who wants attention, attention, attention all the time. Maybe that indicates a desperate need to feel loved, who knows?
Yes, that story is true. Darlie's suicidal thoughts never went beyond seeking Darin's attention. In her diary, she writes that after they talked, she felt better.
But she's also suicidal, she's literally self-destructive. A state of mind that can't have been helped by those diet pills she was chucking down her throat
There is proof that Darlie was not abusing the diet pills per her blood levels that night. There is no proof Darlie was ever self-destructive.

I think she intended to kill herself after murdering her boys but at the last minute she couldn't quite bring herself to finish the act. The whole thing was meant to be aimed at Darin- "Look what you made me do"...and maybe it's his immense guilt that has caused him to go along with the intruder theory
Why do you think she intended to kill herself? Slitting one's throat is a very dumb method. However, I do agree that Darlie "met" some sort of dare or threat Darin made to her.
Happy 2006, by the way!
You too!
 
deandaniellws said:
I would love to also. Why the heck can't we find someone who knows her personally! :mad:
Probably because Darin is still out walking among the free. Her friends are strangely quiet. Nobody talks about it. I can't help but wonder if that is because they are afraid of repercussions from the family. Not one of their close friends has ever written anything about this case nor have they been interviewed. Look how many people have written books on the Scott Peterson case, how many have agreed to interviews on these legal shows. I find it amazing that everyone is soooooooo quiet in the Routier case.
 
beesy said:
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5.5 min 911 call deducted from the 9 minutes Damon was said to have lived after receiving the fatal wounds = 3.5 minutes.

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Explain again what she had to do in those 3.5 minutes
Everything if she flew off the handle and struck before she knew what she was doing, minus the actual stabbings, of course.
 
beesy said:
Yes, that story is true. Darlie's suicidal thoughts never went beyond seeking Darin's attention. In her diary, she writes that after they talked, she felt better.
There is proof that Darlie was not abusing the diet pills per her blood levels that night. There is no proof Darlie was ever self-destructive.

Why do you think she intended to kill herself? Slitting one's throat is a very dumb method. However, I do agree that Darlie "met" some sort of dare or threat Darin made to her.
You too!
Hi Beesy, yes I agree slitting one's throat IS a dumb method- I don't know, I just feel the whole thing was a huge "F- you" (excuse me!) to Darin, and maybe she thought a big gash across her neck would be sufficiently dramatic.
 
britgirl said:
Hi Beesy, yes I agree slitting one's throat IS a dumb method- I don't know, I just feel the whole thing was a huge "F- you" (excuse me!) to Darin, and maybe she thought a big gash across her neck would be sufficiently dramatic.

Think of this. . . If she got away with it, everytime he looked at that prize chest of her's, he'd see that slash that she most likely would blame him for every waking day of his life. What bigger "F" you could Darlie do to Darin who loved her chest soooooo much.
 
Jeana (DP) said:
Think of this. . . If she got away with it, everytime he looked at that prize chest of her's, he'd see that slash that she most likely would blame him for every waking day of his life. What bigger "F" you could Darlie do to Darin who loved her chest soooooo much.
Indeed. And he'd keep seeing it because he couldn't keep his eyes off that lovely pair of mammas. :eek:
 
britgirl said:
Hi Beesy, yes I agree slitting one's throat IS a dumb method- I don't know, I just feel the whole thing was a huge "F- you" (excuse me!) to Darin, and maybe she thought a big gash across her neck would be sufficiently dramatic.
Yeah, a dramatic course of action with dramatic consequences for 'Dumb Darlie Routier'!!
 
britgirl said:
From what I've read about Darlie, she seems to be an extremely narcissistic, attention-seeking person. Am I right in saying she once made a false accusation of rape because Darin wasn't paying her enough attention at a party? Then there are her suicidal thoughts...so you have someone who wants attention, attention, attention all the time. Maybe that indicates a desperate need to feel loved, who knows? But she's also suicidal, she's literally self-destructive. A state of mind that can't have been helped by those diet pills she was chucking down her throat...
I think she intended to kill herself after murdering her boys but at the last minute she couldn't quite bring herself to finish the act. The whole thing was meant to be aimed at Darin- "Look what you made me do"...and maybe it's his immense guilt that has caused him to go along with the intruder theory.

Happy 2006, by the way!
Maybe it is time we started analyzing the evidence of all of the above to see just how selfish and attention seeking she was. When she was 19, she cried rape to get Darin to leave a party when he didn't want to leave, but that is the only time she did anything like that. 8 years later she set up that dramatic suicide attempt which was really more just a threat since she didn't take anything but just talked about wanting to take some sleeping pills. Once again that appears to be an effort to get Darin's attention. Then a month later the boys were killed.

I don't think Darlie was suicidal either when she threatened to take those pills or when she cut her throat. The first time it was dramatic effect and the second time it was to mislead authorities, to make it look like she was as seriously injured as her children, and miracle upon miracle she somehow survived.

What is not clear to me is what went on after the suicide theat in May up until the boys were murdered on June 6th. Women who kill their children to get even with their husbands usually have husbands who are involved in affairs and want out of the marriage. It usually happens after the husband leaves the home and after several failed attempts to pull him back or woo him back. It usually happens after attys and divorce papers are involved, after many fights over the kids, custody arrangements, child support, how to divide their holdings, etc. Darlie went thru NONE of this. So I fail to see this as wife wanting to punish her husband.
 
britgirl said:
Hi Beesy, yes I agree slitting one's throat IS a dumb method- I don't know, I just feel the whole thing was a huge "F- you" (excuse me!) to Darin, and maybe she thought a big gash across her neck would be sufficiently dramatic.
And think about what a great effect if would have on the movie of the week....that was never made. Sufficiently dramatic is right on the money though. It definitely fools some people.
 
Jeana (DP) said:
Think of this. . . If she got away with it, everytime he looked at that prize chest of her's, he'd see that slash that she most likely would blame him for every waking day of his life. What bigger "F" you could Darlie do to Darin who loved her chest soooooo much.
I'd believe it if she had let that knife actually cut one of those melons. Maybe she was preserving them for daddy. :loser: Seriously though, don't you think the slash was more for dramatic effect than anything else. It had a definite purpose and that was to fool police. It just didn't work.
 

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