Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #35

[cluciano63]

Neighbors heard two shots and that’s all we know of that were fired. One for mom, one for dad

LE dismissed them, I believe.

 

[MommaK43]

Yes

Explain why u disagree please

 

[cluciano63]

That said, though, I would try to get her caught up for this school year, so she doesn't suffer the additional blow of being a year behind her regular classmates next fall.

Hopefully she can do that with a home tutor. But she may want to get back to school. Kids like routines or so I’m told.

 

[esayer]

Neighbors heard two shots and that’s all we know of that were fired. One for mom, one for dad

The door was shot open.

 

[Msskeptic]

We now have a witness to the double murder of Mr. and Mrs. Closs: their daughter. I think she'll be able to answer a lot of questions about how exactly the suspect committed these crimes.

 

[BradB]

Marijuana is bad

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Pot users will believe that. Pot's not that big of a deal. It's not Fentanyl. I actually don't know what he was dealing.

If that’s all. But I only said pot because that’s what his brother was busted for.

 

[Inthedetails]

Anyone have a link handy for today's press conference? I think some people who missed it might want to watch it.

jmo

 

[Shelby2]

Marijuana is bad

LOL ok

 

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[hayearmstrong]

That said, though, I would try to get her caught up for this school year, so she doesn't suffer the additional blow of being a year behind her regular classmates next fall.

It all depends on her mental state. Perhaps she will have to take a bit of time off from school. All that matters is that she is healing and thriving mentally before she starts going to school again. There will be many opportunities to help her catch up (ie - tutor, summer schooling, online courses). That being said, many people can deal with trauma better by continuing a routine. In my grade 12 class, a girl’s mother committed suicide and she was at school the next week and it helped her a lot to remain in the same routine. A while later, he dad was diagnosed with leukaemia. Still, she was at school because that’s what helped her.

 

[Snoods]

Hell, even in a dangerous area, you don’t expect someone to shoot your door in and come in guns ablazing.

This was quick.

Right? Unless you have your gun cocked, safety off and aimed at the door 24/7 you don’t stand a chance.

My pit bull has a heck of a loud, scary bark, but she would probably run and hide if someone broke in.

We all like to think we would ninja kick an attacker in the throat with deadly force and escape, but terrifyingly sometimes there is just not anything a person can do.

 

[MommaK43]

But the dad and mom were near the door, he could have been banging on the door saying he was the police for all we know. It happened too fast.

Only likely secenrio that would get them up without worry!

 

[1987]

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[oviedo]

Did you forget he worked one day at Jennie O? He was set!
(I wonder about that too.)

According to the article that @oviedo linked above, he had friends over while Jayme was secreted somewhere in the house. I wonder if any of them will speak out? Every murderer/serial killer has an oblivious good friend. (I was shocked when an ex-neighbor told me she and a boyfriend had been in prison for murder. BF still in prison. Later she said “I hope you don’t hold that against me.”) Umm...

Jayme’s bravery and moxie astounds me.

Think about how when you watch a scary movie in which someone escapes their attacker, your heart pounds hard, you cover your eyes and kinda peek through your fingers while yelling ‘RUN RUN!’

Now imagine being 13 years old, aware your parents were murdered by your abductor, being held captive for three months while enduring God knows what, and still having the guts to escape and make a run for it. She must have been dreading he was going to catch her the entire time.

She has courage that comes from within- to me, it indicates a well -beloved child to survive the horror and similar to all the other girls who survived captivity IMO

 

[katydid23]

I think this is best to hold off on. Abigail H. heroically and unashamedly testified and made sure her abductor was held responsible for his crimes against her. She was only 14 when he took her. Any assumption that a female, young or otherwise, is too weak to want to nail her attacker to the wall is a faulty one.

Every case is different. In this specific case, the female victim, at barely 13 yrs old, saw her parents get blown away by a shotgun, by her attacker. They died so he could take her and hold her hostage. That sets up a very horrid emotional situation for this young girl.

I am not saying she is too weak to nail her attacker in court. I am simply questioning the necessity, given the fact that he will be on trial for double felony murder and child abduction. He will likely get 100 years or more, no chance of parole. So what id the point? Why put a fragile 13 yr old out in the public, high profile stage and have her discuss her 3 months of torture? I don't see the upside of that, JMO.

 

[Snoods]

If that’s all. But I only said pot because that’s what his brother was busted for.

So we don’t know if he was selling pot?

 

[J.l.holli]

It is not deemed to be a choice. It is a brain disorder ( the absence to feel empathy for any living thing) as well as a core personality flaw we can't help or cure at this point in time... Scariest mental disease there is, and is not as rare as most people think when overt violence is absent.

The OP said they could tell who 6 yo psychopaths wannabes are.

 

[Blueberry2720]

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[Snoopster]

Never open a closed door in the middle of the night maybe? Well to me that’s common sense, guess not others. I have a crazy drugged up neighbor that did that at 6am on a Sunday. U think I didn’t go to my door locked and loaded? Sorry I’m a person that would rather be prepared vs not. Just saying...

Thank goodness I live where I do. We open our door to neighbors. They might be in distress. Is it wise to exercise caution? Absolutely agree with you there, but in a community-minded community sometimes we operate on faith. (not the religious definition of faith, just good ol' community faith.)

A story...
many years ago, when our children were quite young, our local golf/community club organized a celebration (to celebrate winning over city hall about a placement of a water treatment facility). We went during a winter evening to hit at their indoor driving range and eat pizza. My hubby went outside for a smoke (quelle horreur!!) and got talking to a young man in the parking lot. The young man had pulled in off the highway in a rental car looking for a motel to stay at. My DH invited him to stay at our place. I was somewhat unsettled, as you can imagine. Well this young man (from Malaysia, driving from the northern midwest US, through SW Ontario Canada (where we were) to his new grad program in upper NY State) stayed at our house that night. He played computer games with our young sons the next morning. We had the most wonderful discussion about life and business. He had been hired by IBM, where my DH worked, and we kept in touch for years.

So, was it a risk? Of course. Was it enriching? More than you can imagine. What if we didn't let fear rule our lives?

I'm guessing that there are many of you who live in more dangerous areas, and, some who live in perceived dangerous areas, who would be wise not to do what we did. It will no doubt seem over the top to many Americans, but here in Canada, it isn't as much a stretch.

Is there a right or wrong decision? I don't think there is. Everyone must come to their own.
(You are all great!)

 

[Shelby2]

So we don’t know if he was selling pot?

There was a lot of coming and going so he was most likely dealing something.