Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #42

[girlhasnoname]

Watching the 20/20 on Cary Stayner last night, it's amazing at how far the media has come from Steven Stayner's abduction in the 70s. When he was reunited with his family, the media actually announced that there were "homosexual relations" with him and his captor. He was 7 years old when he was kidnapped-that's not a relationship, that's a pedophile raping a child. It caused a ton of problems with bullying in his high school. They also had Steven and his family doing press conferences and interviews right there on the steps of his home as he was being reunited with the rest of his family. And when he appeared on "Good Morning America", the interviewer even asked him why he'd never tried to escape.

At least, if nothing else, we've come farther than that. Of course, now we have a lot more understanding of trauma, particularly when it comes to abductions.

Oh I know, how weirdly insensitive was all that?! It made me mad at first and then just sad for SS. He was revictimized all over again.

I'm thrilled Jayme won't be forced to divulge the personal details and relive her time with JP to LE, the courts and the public. She needs time and healing and even then, recovery won't be easy. My only hope is that she will be able to move forward, one step at a time, at her own time.

I'd be okay for all of this to slowly fade away from the spotlight. I'll always remember this case, it was a lesson of hope for me, I just felt she was alive somewhere.

<okay, maybe I'd like an update in 5-10 years to see how wonderful she is again lol>

 

[girlhasnoname]

Absolutely not.

He’s spectacularly dangerous, and might as well be the poster boy for LWOP.

It’s a forgone conclusion at this point.

Ha! Thanks, I always feel better when you give such a definitive response. I'm with you 100% MG.

 

[Forpsy]

I agree. No expert and cannot even begin to assume, but I think to she may want to or wish she had testified against him. To show her life is going on while she is helping to put him away for the murder of her parents. On the other hand, she is very young and I can see not doing so, I just hope some day she never wishes she had. This man needs to go away for good and she is a key part of that. There is a balance of protecting the public and the victim. If the case is in any way questionable, or there is not a ton of evidence as we have been led to believe, she will be needed for the Barron events. But again, if it goes to trial, I believe it will be quite some time before it does. No rush.

I hope that this decision by the DA was made in conjunction with Jayme's stated desire.
I worry that she will feel shame if everyone is treating certain crimes that may have been committed against her as something too bad to even talk about.
She lived it after all. JMO

 

[MyBelle]

I hope that this decision by the DA was made in conjunction with Jayme's stated desire.
I worry that she will feel shame if everyone is treating certain crimes that may have been committed against her as something too bad to even talk about.
She lived it after all. JMO

And she likely is STILL living it. Why make her publicly testify about it? I seriously doubt it will help her heal and will, instead, create more emotional wounds.

JMO

 

[Bravo]

No. This is about the best interests of the victim.

They have enough to nail him for two murders, and a kidnapping.

He will serve life without parole, no matter what.

Jayme has been victimized enough. I absolutely love this decision by the district attorney.

You and I agree on most (when u realize it or not lol) I'm not sure about this. What if something gets overturned. Hit him with everything IMO. I dunno this one is a huge struggle for me.

 

[MassGuy]

You and I agree on most (when u realize it or not lol) I'm not sure about this. What if something gets overturned. Hit him with everything IMO. I dunno this one is a huge struggle for me.

I am absolutely positive about this. I am not the least bit concerned about him being sentenced to anything other than life in prison.

If the impossible happens, these other potential charges could be filed.

A double murdering kidnapper, is never getting out of prison, no matter what happens, and no matter how the world changes.

If his conviction is ever overturned, he will simply be tried again and convicted again.

 

[Rubiconbob]

I am absolutely positive about this. I am not the least bit concerned about him being sentenced to anything other than life in prison.

If the impossible happens, these other potential charges could be filed.

A double murdering kidnapper, is never getting out of prison, no matter what happens, and no matter how the world changes.

If his conviction is ever overturned, he will simply be tried again and convicted again.

I would agree... only thing that’s frustrating is Elizabeth smart trial didn’t happen for 7 years...

Partly because they were nutjob loons, and not as cut and dry.

Hope jakes family convinces him plead immediately and apologize..and get on meds...

I don’t know, if it’s been 10 days and no family members have been to see him... he may be on his own with attorneys from here on out..

 

[Bravo]

All I have to say is whether this young Jayme realizes it or not she has a voice and needs to have a voice.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

VINELink


JTP is being held about a 2 hour drive from his family (dad) in Superior, and 45 min. from his mother in Haugen. He is in Balsam Lake at the Polk County jail

 

[Lady Justice21]

I hope that this decision by the DA was made in conjunction with Jayme's stated desire.
I worry that she will feel shame if everyone is treating certain crimes that may have been committed against her as something too bad to even talk about.
She lived it after all. JMO

Agreed. I also hope that if during the statute of limitations, she wants charges brought, that they are. Not because I think anyone wants to testify about what they lived through, but because *some people want the conviction for those charges. While it won't add to his sentence in that LWOP is LWOP. IMO sometimes it becomes very important to the victim that the perpetrator is convicted for anything that may have occurred during that time frame.

I have no way of knowing how JC will feel about all that, just hope that choice remains hers. Even just knowing the choice is hers and hers alone can feel very empowering.

All just MOO

 

[Confusion]

I agree both ways, it depends on the sentence that results and we do not know that yet. At that time they can re-evaluate if necessary. Things are not instant although I just as anyone else expect them to be. I think the minimum statute of limitations is 3 years isn't it? There is plenty of time.

I know this has been discussed already, but I just wanted to add my $.02. In Wisconsin, there is no statute of limitation on 1st degree sexual assault in criminal cases (civil cases are different). Any other sexual assault on a child, the statute of limitations runs out on the child's 45th birthday. She would have until her 35th birthday to file a civil suit, but I doubt she'll ever do that. MOO

 

[Bravo]

Some of the victims we read about who endure this survive. She did and I am so grateful. IMO the whole process is important.

 

[Rubiconbob]

But what if you spent 3 months with your attacker. And he made you do a laundry list of nasty things. And you were 13. Would you want all of those specific details leaked to the public? Would you want to walk into gym class and know that every one in the room read about exactly what happened during those 3 months.

I think that would be emotionally debilitating for any 13 yr old.

Agree... I think it’s best to let her talk when she wants to therapist/ aunt or friends...

I don’t think JP actually wants people to know either... it would basically be huge admission that all this marine pretend crap was just for show... just likes kids..

I’d think if they find his computer it won’t be filled with hooters girls... just a hunch.

 

[Confusion]

None of the victims we read about who endure this and survive get to live. She did and I am so grateful. IMO the whole process is important.

I really think it depends on the person, and I'm not sure what type of person she is. She seemed like she was introverted, probably a bit shy, and possibly a very private person. A lot has changed now, and she may be less of all of those things after discovering what she was actually capable of handling. I hope that whatever will be most therapeutic for her will happen, and there will most likely be many months (and possibly a few years) to determine what that is. MOO

 

[katydid23]

Some of the victims we read about who endure this survive. She did and I am so grateful. IMO the whole process is important.

Of course. Some do. But how many 13 year olds watched their parents get blown away by a shotgun, and were then hogtied and thrown in the trunk of a car? And then held hostage, half starved and unwashed, for months?

She endured more than many have dealt with and rescued herself.

I agree the whole process is important. If this goes to trial, I hope she testifies against him for the murder and abduction. But I am willing to accept the DA's decision, to ignore some of the charges, for the protection of a young girls psyche, if deemed necessary. JMO

 

[Bravo]

Of course. Some do. But how many 13 year olds watched their parents get blown away by a shotgun, and were then hogtied and thrown in the trunk of a car? And then held hostage, half starved and unwashed, for months?

She endured more than many have dealt with and rescued herself.

I agree the whole process is important. If this goes to trial, I hope she testifies against him for the murder and abduction. But I am willing to accept the DA's decision, to ignore some of the charges, for the protection of a young girls psyche, if deemed necessary. JMO

So you really think in her latter years what her experience after the murder of her Parents is never addressed will just go away? At 13 really?

 

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[mtnlites]

I've met lots of victims of sexual abuse and I never met one who really wanted to talk about the details.

Or who wanted all her friends to know. I feel like this is Jayme's case and her life. If she, at some point, wants to talk about these things then that's her choice. I see this decision as the adults in her life giving her an opportunity to make that choice.

 

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