Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #42

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  • #541
What do you think that is, that you can see through the doorway, in the blue room on the left? A desk and chair? Bathroom counter and wall mirror? Or... ?

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It looks like an appliance of some sort, maybe a chest freezer? Or laundry appliance?
 
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Jake Patterson, accused of abducting Jayme Closs, isolated himself after high school
The gatherings were typical of what takes place when teenagers get together at the holidays after high school graduation.

Friendships stretched by distance, experiences or both are renewed. College life is compared with work life which is compared with military life. Contact information is updated and shared.

That was true when recent graduates of the Northwood School of Minong got together toward the end of 2015 — except for Jake Patterson.

Even with the guys with whom he'd been closest in the group of 34 students, Patterson wasn't interested in staying in touch, a friend's mother recalled. He didn't give out his email address, didn't want anyone's phone number.

Some schoolmates thought Patterson was serving in the Marine Corps, probably as an infantryman as he'd vowed he would via a message in their 2015 yearbooks. Others, if they bumped into him at one of the handful of jobs he cycled through after graduation, assumed he'd begun a career at a local meat-packing plant or a wood-pellet factory.

His increasing isolation continued until late 2018 when Patterson, four months after his 21st birthday, was so far off people's radar that he was able to avoid being a suspect in the shotgun murders of a Barron County couple and the kidnapping of their 13-year-old daughter, Jayme Closs. That's despite, as prosecutors now allege, having held Jayme captive for nearly three months in the house where he'd lived since 2006.

MUCH more at the link...
 
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Jake Patterson, accused of abducting Jayme Closs, isolated himself after high school
The gatherings were typical of what takes place when teenagers get together at the holidays after high school graduation.

Friendships stretched by distance, experiences or both are renewed. College life is compared with work life which is compared with military life. Contact information is updated and shared.

That was true when recent graduates of the Northwood School of Minong got together toward the end of 2015 — except for Jake Patterson.

Even with the guys with whom he'd been closest in the group of 34 students, Patterson wasn't interested in staying in touch, a friend's mother recalled. He didn't give out his email address, didn't want anyone's phone number.

Some schoolmates thought Patterson was serving in the Marine Corps, probably as an infantryman as he'd vowed he would via a message in their 2015 yearbooks. Others, if they bumped into him at one of the handful of jobs he cycled through after graduation, assumed he'd begun a career at a local meat-packing plant or a wood-pellet factory.

His increasing isolation continued until late 2018 when Patterson, four months after his 21st birthday, was so far off people's radar that he was able to avoid being a suspect in the shotgun murders of a Barron County couple and the kidnapping of their 13-year-old daughter, Jayme Closs. That's despite, as prosecutors now allege, having held Jayme captive for nearly three months in the house where he'd lived since 2006.

MUCH more at the link...

Interesting that there were a few more jobs, the usual short stint. Just shows no one really knows where he was and what he was doing the past 3 years since high school for sure.

Also appears that his problems may have started to show around the time the bro was getting in trouble. And I do wonder when dad left...
 
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I just had the thought that with the Christmas story coming out, clearly the Patterson family is being interrogated. I mean I figured that before but this article coming out yesterday leads me to believe it is ongoing.

I mean maybe this was found out in the early days but if it was just found out, it likely did not come from JTP as he is lawyered up. It could have come from Jayme but I doubt she would know who the attendees were, so what remains is from his family maybe in addition to Jayme mentioning it...

I would assume also since the home is in Douglas, it is Douglas County questioning the family.

Just thoughts...
I agree that they've most certainly interrogated family and I'd like to know specifically who this quote came from.

"The family was there," one source said. Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."
Suspect Jake Thomas Patterson hosted a Christmas gathering while Jayme Closs was imprisoned in the same house, sources say

ETA: Welcome to Websleuths, @Nater925! :)
 
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I agree that they've most certainly interrogated family and I'd like to know specifically who this quote came from.

Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."
Suspect Jake Thomas Patterson hosted a Christmas gathering while Jayme Closs was imprisoned in the same house, sources say

Jayme probably? The threat to kill is huge to me. If he said it, it must have been in initial interrogation and this simply did not go into the complaint, although everything usually doesn't. I would guess once he lawyered up, that was the end of his talking.

Are you thinking one of the family members or someone else may have said it? I guess he could also possibly be talking in jail to other prisoners although I thought he was being isolated...
 
  • #549
With regard to the appliance, it looks to me like a washer or a chest freezer. Seems a bit odd to me it would be on the far wall though--plumbing wise. I guess it could be though. Meaning a washer, not the freezer...
 
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Jayme probably? The threat to kill is huge to me. If he said it, it must have been in initial interrogation and this simply did not go into the complaint, although everything usually doesn't. I would guess once he lawyered up, that was the end of his talking.

Are you thinking one of the family members or someone else may have said it? I guess he could also possibly be talking in jail to other prisoners although I thought he was being isolated...
Sorry I wasn't clear. I edited my post to include the BBM:
"The family was there," one source said. Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."

It makes sense that it had to come from either JP or Jayme but the way it's written seems to imply it came from someone else. I dunno.

MOO
 
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I edited my post to include the BBM:
"The family was there," one source said. Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."

It makes sense that it had to come from either JP or Jayme but the way it's written seems to imply it came from someone else. I dunno.

MOO

I took that to probably mean the LE sources but it is a bit confusing so it is hard to say...
 
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I edited my post to include the BBM:
"The family was there," one source said. Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."

It makes sense that it had to come from either JP or Jayme but the way it's written seems to imply it came from someone else. I dunno.

MOO

I assumed it came from the father or sister because you're right, it's not written like it came from Jake.
 
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I edited my post to include the BBM:
"The family was there," one source said. Patterson "told (Jayme) that if she made a noise or tried to escape, he would kill her."

It makes sense that it had to come from either JP or Jayme but the way it's written seems to imply it came from someone else. I dunno.

MOO

To add another side to this, the threat to kill shows she did not have it nice. While we hope he was decent to her, it does not appear so. I guess he could have had moments of each. And of course she would believe him 100 percent because he killed her parents. I hope to heck his parents are not giving him any commissary (or whatever one calls it) money. He deserves NOTHING.
 
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What do you think that is, that you can see through the doorway, in the blue room on the left? A desk and chair? Bathroom counter and wall mirror? Or... ?

8487370-6588161-A_hammer_a_flashlight_a_scouring_pad_scissors_and_a_spray_bottle-a-3_1547472673045.jpg
laundry room?
 
  • #555
Jake Patterson, accused of abducting Jayme Closs, isolated himself after high school
The gatherings were typical of what takes place when teenagers get together at the holidays after high school graduation.

Friendships stretched by distance, experiences or both are renewed. College life is compared with work life which is compared with military life. Contact information is updated and shared.

That was true when recent graduates of the Northwood School of Minong got together toward the end of 2015 — except for Jake Patterson.

Even with the guys with whom he'd been closest in the group of 34 students, Patterson wasn't interested in staying in touch, a friend's mother recalled. He didn't give out his email address, didn't want anyone's phone number.

Some schoolmates thought Patterson was serving in the Marine Corps, probably as an infantryman as he'd vowed he would via a message in their 2015 yearbooks. Others, if they bumped into him at one of the handful of jobs he cycled through after graduation, assumed he'd begun a career at a local meat-packing plant or a wood-pellet factory.

His increasing isolation continued until late 2018 when Patterson, four months after his 21st birthday, was so far off people's radar that he was able to avoid being a suspect in the shotgun murders of a Barron County couple and the kidnapping of their 13-year-old daughter, Jayme Closs. That's despite, as prosecutors now allege, having held Jayme captive for nearly three months in the house where he'd lived since 2006.

MUCH more at the link...
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With regard to the appliance, it looks to me like a washer or a chest freezer. Seems a bit odd to me it would be on the far wall though--plumbing wise. I guess it could be though. Meaning a washer, not the freezer...

If you zoom in you can see the raised backsplashy bit with the control dials, which to me implies washer or, more likely, dryer, since it looks like a front loader. You can see the line delineating the horizontal top panel from the vertical side panels, and it doesn't show an airtight seal the way a chest freezer would, IMO. And of course a dryer would be on or near an outside wall, for the vent.
 
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If you zoom in you can see the raised backsplashy bit with the control dials, which to me implies washer or, more likely, dryer, since it looks like a front loader. You can see the line delineating the horizontal top panel from the vertical side panels, and it doesn't show an airtight seal the way a chest freezer would, IMO. And of course a dryer would be on or near an outside wall, for the vent.

Yeah I did not have a zoom option, thought I saw a dial on the left. I have lived in more than a few homes where they were on an inside wall, even the dryer believe it or not. Glad it got figured out :)
 
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Jake Patterson, accused of abducting Jayme Closs, isolated himself after high school
The gatherings were typical of what takes place when teenagers get together at the holidays after high school graduation.

Friendships stretched by distance, experiences or both are renewed. College life is compared with work life which is compared with military life. Contact information is updated and shared.

That was true when recent graduates of the Northwood School of Minong got together toward the end of 2015 — except for Jake Patterson.

Even with the guys with whom he'd been closest in the group of 34 students, Patterson wasn't interested in staying in touch, a friend's mother recalled. He didn't give out his email address, didn't want anyone's phone number.

Some schoolmates thought Patterson was serving in the Marine Corps, probably as an infantryman as he'd vowed he would via a message in their 2015 yearbooks. Others, if they bumped into him at one of the handful of jobs he cycled through after graduation, assumed he'd begun a career at a local meat-packing plant or a wood-pellet factory.

His increasing isolation continued until late 2018 when Patterson, four months after his 21st birthday, was so far off people's radar that he was able to avoid being a suspect in the shotgun murders of a Barron County couple and the kidnapping of their 13-year-old daughter, Jayme Closs. That's despite, as prosecutors now allege, having held Jayme captive for nearly three months in the house where he'd lived since 2006.

MUCH more at the link...
Okay got around subscription issue by just typing title of article in Google...
JP is a fan of video games, novels by Tom Clancy (mostly military), the board game Risk, also military. He began to isolate before graduation/ marines rejection, so that blow wasn’t 100% the snap-factor. Maybe the straw that broke the camel’s back? Divorce+custody bouncing+ brother in jail +failure to snag dream career + isolation + time = stealth mode murder & kidnapping? This is a head shaker for sure.

Lesson? When someone goes apesh*t AWOL isolationist, it may mean things are not going well AT ALL, and some serious intervention is needed.
 
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Okay got around subscription issue by just typing title of article in Google...
JP is a fan of video games, novels by Tom Clancy (mostly military), the board game Risk, also military. He began to isolate before graduation/ marines rejection, so that blow wasn’t 100% the snap-factor. Maybe the straw that broke the camel’s back? Divorce+custody bouncing+ brother in jail +failure to snag dream career + isolation + time = stealth mode murder & kidnapping? This is a head shaker for sure.

Lesson? When someone goes apesh*t AWOL isolationist, it may mean things are not going well AT ALL, and some serious intervention is needed.

All Patterson's major life failures & disappointments, occurred in the fall:

-Oct. 30, 2007: The couple file jointly for divorce, saying in a hand-written petition their union is “irretrievably broken.” They agree to split the cost of raising the kids, and Patrick agrees to insure them with a plan he has through his employer, an electrical supply company.

-Oct. 13, 2012: Erik Patterson is accused of fourth-degree sexual assault. He pleads no contest; a Buffalo County judge sentences him to a year's probation.

-Oct. 28, 2013: Erik Patterson is arrested in Douglas County on charges including two low-level felonies accusing him of manufacturing or delivering THC, as well as a bail-jumping misdemeanor. He later pleads no contest and is convicted. His Buffalo County probation is revoked; he's given an eight-month jail sentence.

-Oct. 20, 2015: The Marine Corps kicks Patterson out of basic training five weeks into a 13-week program.

-Early October, 2018
: Patterson continues to live at South Eau Claire Acres. His father has moved out.
 
  • #560
All Patterson's major life failures & disappointments, occurred in the fall:

-Oct. 30, 2007: The couple file jointly for divorce, saying in a hand-written petition their union is “irretrievably broken.” They agree to split the cost of raising the kids, and Patrick agrees to insure them with a plan he has through his employer, an electrical supply company.

-Oct. 13, 2012: Erik Patterson is accused of fourth-degree sexual assault. He pleads no contest; a Buffalo County judge sentences him to a year's probation.

-Oct. 28, 2013: Erik Patterson is arrested in Douglas County on charges including two low-level felonies accusing him of manufacturing or delivering THC, as well as a bail-jumping misdemeanor. He later pleads no contest and is convicted. His Buffalo County probation is revoked; he's given an eight-month jail sentence.

-Oct. 20, 2015: The Marine Corps kicks Patterson out of basic training five weeks into a 13-week program.

-Early October, 2018
: Patterson continues to live at South Eau Claire Acres. His father has moved out.
WOW/ OMG/ HOLY SH*TSVILLE/ BRILLIANT CATCH!

The month of OCTOBER is the trigger. Like SAD, seasonal affective disorder, linked to prior timing of adverse events. Tnith- great observation.
 
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