AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #32

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I may have missed one, but I have never seen the scent remark in the driveway via any media source. I have seen it as an assumption that seems to have become a fact but have never seen a source. Not saying there is not one, but I have never seen one.

That being said, the well is very unlikely as is an animal trap, that has been put out there too back when, the ATV is not so out there as those imo. Not my theory but in no way is it as unlikely as those two, especially at this point in time.

jmo.
And we have managed to discuss ATV's S and S's and backyard getaways for nearly a day and a half and filled up almost a whole thread. Now I call that success. I have added all that to the list that contains jake brakes and consider myself on a roll. lol lol
 
  • #542
I keep reading this--that the dogs lost Jayme's scent at the driveway. Anyone know where this is noted? TIA
 
  • #543
Most seem to want the 911 call (the call cleaned one) and maybe it would be amazing and eye opening, not sure; next people seem to want the firearm info.... I would like to know where they all were that day and even just from Friday on if I had to pick one thing... Ideally, the week before even...
I’m not sure iteneraies would help me much. Didn’t know them and don’t know the places. I’m leaning towards how many shots were fired and how many missed. Unless that’s two things in my hypothetical situation...then I’d settle for accuracy. That would tell me something about the trigger man at least...
 
  • #544
And we have managed to discuss ATV's S and S's and backyard getaways for nearly a day and a half and filled up almost a whole thread. Now I call that success. I have added all that to the list that contains jake brakes and consider myself on a roll. lol lol

To stay within rules and keep it alive is a pretty good effort whether it involves wells, trailer hitches, jake brakes, victoria's secret, etc. Because there is never anything new....
 
  • #545
I keep reading this--that the dogs lost Jayme's scent at the driveway. Anyone know where this is noted? TIA

I personally have never seen a source for that or any detail much on any dog searches but it seems to come up like a fact so maybe I missed an article about it and very likely that I could have.
 
  • #546
Just my opinion... . but I feel that this poor girl was targeted
 
  • #547
Also notice that the ceiling planks change direction, which they don't in the St Croix pics. And that drywall overhang...

I still don't know why any of this matters.
I didn’t look that close and couldn’t be bothered to go back and look again, but I agree with you.
 
  • #548
I’m not sure iteneraies would help me much. Didn’t know them and don’t know the places. I’m leaning towards how many shots were fired and how many missed. Unless that’s two things in my hypothetical situation...then I’d settle for accuracy. That would tell me something about the trigger man at least...

My reason is not so much the family or what they were doing so much as where they may have encountered someone (any of them). And the fact it is so silent about confirming whereabouts. Maybe I ran into a weird type at the same place they stopped at, but earlier; if that is not shared, why would one necessarily even think of it? I do however, understand the interest in the other things, which are pretty silent too. Yet I think in general 911 calls and ballistics or firearm info are often held in cases, but with a missing child, the whereabouts and where they may have encountered someone seems odd to me. If one wants to find someone--but that is just trying to read between the lines which is all any of us are doing or can do...
 
  • #549
And we have managed to discuss ATV's S and S's and backyard getaways for nearly a day and a half and filled up almost a whole thread. Now I call that success. I have added all that to the list that contains jake brakes and consider myself on a roll. lol lol
Does this mean your thesis is complete? Rats. And I was just about to ask if this 'alternative vehicle' had a trailer hitch! :D
 
  • #550
Does this mean your thesis is complete? Rats. And I was just about to ask if this 'alternative vehicle' had a trailer hitch! :D
Well, I was mustering up the courage to suggest that perhaps the ATV went down the driveway, across the road and around the fields to some outlying building. There is a way and there are several buildings that I noted from Google maps satellite view. Somewhere in one of the previous threads there were statistics indicating the distance from the point of abductions that the victim was found and a large percentage were found not very far away.
 
  • #551
A press conference called for a week out is not the norm. The only time I can recall something like that is when LE says ‘we will have a presser every Tuesday to keep you all up to date’. And then if the case goes on too long they can’t keep that up. Going from nothing to a presser in a week is very very curious. The announcement coming as it did soon after a very interesting rumor makes me think they are connected. Why would LE wait to announce anything big? So they could have the most control on the announcement. They can plan it to the nth degree. We have said it here that if they called an unexpected presser, reporters would be wrecking their cars to get to it. This way they can better handle the circus that could erupt from a major announcement. Are they keeping info from the family until then? That would be cruel for sure, unless it IS good news and they can assure the family that Jayme is safe and well and that they will take them to her at a designated time. Someone once said somewhere on WS, reporters know if you want to find out info about someone, watch those closest to them. I am not in any way shape or form suggesting that stalking the family is a good idea. But maybe if the attorney ad litem was observed traveling to and from a hospital or safe house of some sort it would tell us something. I believe this delayed presser is a good sign, as frustrating as it is to wait. If I am right that she has been found alive, and recovering, the media will explode with this news, and I could understand why they would want to protect Jayme and her family from that. I will just be grateful she is OK. I hope & pray this is the case.
With all due respect, I disagree on just about every point. I think the PC will be just what the press release indicates: a case update on the three-month anniversary of the crime.

Barron County sheriff to provide update on Closs case
 
  • #552
That isn't the exact shirt. I'm not able to find the actual shirt. It could be a hand me down from her cousin for all we know.
I've seen several pics of her in Pink products.
 
  • #553
Okay, time for a more general question. As a disclaimer, I'm not intending to start any trouble, because... you know... that would be very unlike me. :rolleyes:

Are we all just chasing our tails with stairs, ATVs, patio doors, wells, trailer hitches, casinos, etc.?

How many of you really have other things on your mind that you feel unable or willing to discuss here? I'm not looking for any specifics or theories. I'm just looking for a general idea of how many have a 51% or better idea of what really happened, or if you feel as clueless as Fitzgerald pretends to be?
 
  • #554
I believe you, I've just never seen it myself. Sounds like a great resource for dirt bags who want to invade your house!
Or to creep on your neighbors/coworkers/etc to see what they owe, etc. The website would say the last three transactions. It was a great resource for sleuthing til they cleaned It up and put restrictions on it. Just trying to show certain counties publish different things. But at one point you could google a name or address and find out almost anything.
 
  • #555
I've seen several pics of her in Pink products.
Were any of the tank tops that he who must not be named took a Pink product?
Anyone know?
 
  • #556
Okay, time for a more general question. As a disclaimer, I'm not intending to start any trouble, because... you know... that would be very unlike me. :rolleyes:

Are we all just chasing our tails with stairs, ATVs, patio doors, wells, trailer hitches, casinos, etc.?

How many of you really have other things on your mind that you feel unable or willing to discuss here? I'm not looking for any specifics or theories. I'm just looking for a general idea of how many have a 51% or better idea of what really happened, or if you feel as clueless as Fitzgerald pretends to be?
Well, as peculiar as the picture in my mind is, we are chasing our tails to kill time and to keep the case alive. I for one have amassed a lot of information that cannot be put on here because of TOS. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree with the high standards here but by the same token it makes me nuts. So, sometime soon I hope we will all know how close we came to the truth in our discussions.
 
  • #557
Were any of the tank tops that he who must not be named took a Pink product?
Anyone know?
I dunno anything about that, but Pink does the best Janis Joplin covers I've ever heard!
 
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Were any of the tank tops that he who must not be named took a Pink product?
Anyone know?
Oh my...the report gave a color, but I don't remember a brand..
 
  • #560
Okay, time for a more general question. As a disclaimer, I'm not intending to start any trouble, because... you know... that would be very unlike me. :rolleyes:

Are we all just chasing our tails with stairs, ATVs, patio doors, wells, trailer hitches, casinos, etc.?

How many of you really have other things on your mind that you feel unable or willing to discuss here? I'm not looking for any specifics or theories. I'm just looking for a general idea of how many have a 51% or better idea of what really happened, or if you feel as clueless as Fitzgerald pretends to be?

I don’t think he’s as clueless as he would have people believe. I do believe there may end up being some truth behind some of the theories etc I have read elsewhere but am unable to discuss here.
 
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