Found Alive WI - Ryan Borgwardt, 45, Green Lake, 11 Aug 2024 *evidence that he faked his death and is alive in Eastern Europe*

  • #281
If someone outside the USA is scamming or obtaining funding under suspicious circumstances, it is worthwhile to keep investigating. LE might not be interested in Ryan as much as discovering if there is a bigger ring outside the US targeting US citizens and their money.

jmo
That's worth considering.
 
  • #282
The longer that there is no update from Ryan Borgwardt - proof of life, the more likely it is that he cannot respond. That would be because he is no longer alive.

If he's alive, and he knows the gig is up, he needs to introduce his family to his beautiful Uzbekistan girlfriend. If that's not his life, something is wrong.
 
  • #283
The longer that there is no update from Ryan Borgwardt - proof of life, the more likely it is that he cannot respond. That would be because he is no longer alive.

If he's alive, and he knows the gig is up, he needs to introduce his family to his beautiful Uzbekistan girlfriend. If that's not his life, something is wrong.
Also I was considering that he might be alive but not have the freedom to contact police or his family… moo
 
  • #284
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This had been slightly local for me and I’m surprised that they haven’t contacted a second person involved. They may have already but I keep thinking there must be an Uber/Lyft driver involved. How did he get from the lake to the airport?
 
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This had been slightly local for me and I’m surprised that they haven’t contacted a second person involved. They may have already but I keep thinking there must be an Uber/Lyft driver involved. How did he get from the lake to the airport?
Exactly! he had to have some help to reach the airport from the lake, no other way. Maybe one of his church buddies lent him a hand, all my speculation. Hope police are interviewing them, I find it hard to believe he did not mention anything about his plans (not even a hint) to anyone.
 
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  • #286
The longer that there is no update from Ryan Borgwardt - proof of life, the more likely it is that he cannot respond. That would be because he is no longer alive.

If he's alive, and he knows the gig is up, he needs to introduce his family to his beautiful Uzbekistan girlfriend. If that's not his life, something is wrong.
Do we know for sure that there is no update from him?
If he got in touch with police (maybe even visited a local LE office wherever he is) and told them that he was safe and well but wanted to keep his location private and didn't want to talk to his family, what would happen? Would LE make some sort of public announcement? Would we know about this in some other way?
 
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It just makes me sad this gentleman was going through sleepless nights and doubting the quality of his work because of this ''prank'' by Ryan. Such an unethical thing to do.
 
  • #289
This had been slightly local for me and I’m surprised that they haven’t contacted a second person involved. They may have already but I keep thinking there must be an Uber/Lyft driver involved. How did he get from the lake to the airport?
That's an important question! And, if a second person was involved, it also increases the risk that foul play may have occured and he was forced to leave his kayak, wallet, truck and trailer behind. But, if that's true, why was his passport in his possession?

I go back and forth thinking he planned to disappear to someone disappeared him. MOO
 
  • #290
That's an important question! And, if a second person was involved, it also increases the risk that foul play may have occured and he was forced to leave his kayak, wallet, truck and trailer behind. But, if that's true, why was his passport in his possession?

I go back and forth thinking he planned to disappear to someone disappeared him. MOO
What vehicle did he take into Canada, do we know?
 
  • #291
What vehicle did he take into Canada, do we know?
We don't know, but I'm thinking LE knows. Maybe someone drove him, maybe he figured out another way to travel, but my hunch is LE isn't asking for that sort of info from the public because they know how he got to Canada.

jmo
 
  • #292
We don't know, but I'm thinking LE knows. Maybe someone drove him, maybe he figured out another way to travel, but my hunch is LE isn't asking for that sort of info from the public because they know how he got to Canada.

jmo
yes this makes sense to me to. That along with where he actually landed in Europe.
Im thinking whoever did help him ALSO had to keep their mouth shut like the wife until the information went public. That person probably has nothing to do with this (if a ride) or is related and also doesn't want to be associated with it.
 
  • #293
What vehicle did he take into Canada, do we know?
I'm suspecting the vehicle he took into Canada was a plane. Maybe flew to Toronto and then onto Europe.
 
  • #294
I'm suspecting the vehicle he took into Canada was a plane. Maybe flew to Toronto and then onto Europe.
Always assume he drove to the border- thanks
 
  • #295
There's a statement by the Sheriff here that hints at the beneficiary of the life insurance...

NOV 18, 2024
Even though Borgwardt’s wife had not claimed the life insurance, Wisconsin includes attempts of fraud in the statute. This means that he could be charged for attempting to commit insurance fraud by faking his death.

When asked about the new insurance policy, Sheriff Mark Podoll said, “deep down inside, I believe Ryan has feelings for his family, what he did was wrong, and in his mind, I think that that was something that would take care of them.”
 
  • #296
Canadian here- I cross the boarder often via vehicle, and they require a passport that they then slide through a machine that I assume tracks who comes in and out. So I am assuming when they note the Canadian police ran his name, this is what they are referencing. That said, this is just a personal guess as I would have assumed they would have called them the boarder guards, not police, as they are not officers like the RCMP.
 
  • #297
Canadian here- I cross the boarder often via vehicle, and they require a passport that they then slide through a machine that I assume tracks who comes in and out. So I am assuming when they note the Canadian police ran his name, this is what they are referencing. That said, this is just a personal guess as I would have assumed they would have called them the boarder guards, not police, as they are not officers like the RCMP.
I think the issue was he was reported missing and entered Canada around the same time
the information wasn't there to flag him at the time as everyone thought he was missing in the lake not another country.
I think this was also the reason he flew out of Canada instead of the US. there simply was no reason for Canada to know he was missing at that point in their system. Not sure if the US would have flagged it faster.
 
  • #298
I think the issue was he was reported missing and entered Canada around the same time
the information wasn't there to flag him at the time as everyone thought he was missing in the lake not another country.
I think this was also the reason he flew out of Canada instead of the US. there simply was no reason for Canada to know he was missing at that point in their system. Not sure if the US would have flagged it faster.
Exactly. He was long gone by the time anyone realized he was "missing" and the search would obviously focus on the lake, not airports or border crossings. He had a head start to cross into Canada and board an international flight before anyone thought to put a flag on his identity.

jmo
 
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  • #299
Canadian here- I cross the boarder often via vehicle, and they require a passport that they then slide through a machine that I assume tracks who comes in and out. So I am assuming when they note the Canadian police ran his name, this is what they are referencing. That said, this is just a personal guess as I would have assumed they would have called them the boarder guards, not police, as they are not officers like the RCMP.
Yes, I'm pretty sure I've seen border control, border officials, etc. Here's one example:

The investigation so far indicates border officials in Canada checked the name, said Green Lake Chief Deputy Matt Vandekolk.
 
  • #300
Romance scams committed by foreigners against our citizens, targeted at U.S. currency can be investigated by several Federal agencies:

This isn't just a case of some bored husband skipping out on his family like a jerk. imo

(Using google search requires using the right words. I have also learned today that smuggling catfish is an international crime. Catfish as in real fish. Not the info I was looking for! lol)

jmo
Can’t it be both?
 

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