Found Safe WI - SMF, 16, Beaver Dam, 2 Feb 2025 *3 mo's pregnant, believed to be with 40-year-old father of the baby*

  • #421
I don't think people will start demanding that she be arrested in this case (at least not very many). It's not like JonBenet where the perpetrator isn't known, and the victim was found at home. There's no doubt who Sophia's with and that she's been abducted.
I agree. And I don't sense all that much public interest in this case. The mom spoke publicly apparently to try to ramp up public information, so that more eyes are on this story that could bring her home more quickly. If they have a cabin or other place to live and only he is venturing out in public, I don't think he'll be discovered. Alone, it would be very hard to recognize him. He looks so ordinary. Prayers this will be solved before her pregnancy reaches the end - it's hard to imagine that ending well on the run.
 
  • #422
I agree. And I don't sense all that much public interest in this case. The mom spoke publicly apparently to try to ramp up public information, so that more eyes are on this story that could bring her home more quickly. If they have a cabin or other place to live and only he is venturing out in public, I don't think he'll be discovered. Alone, it would be very hard to recognize him. He looks so ordinary. Prayers this will be solved before her pregnancy reaches the end - it's hard to imagine that ending well on the run.
Public interest in cases just seems to be random. Maybe when there's a show news day, the media picks an abduction to talk about, unless there's aspects that make it particularly shocking. There was nothing that unusual about the Elizabeth Smart case - until they found the loons that took her - yet the media was on that from the beginning. I have all 24-hour news channels blocked on my TV except the Weather Channel, so these cases don't get buried in the headlines from me.
 
  • #423
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Beaver Dam Police release new images connected to Amber Alert

Alone, it would be very hard to recognize him. He looks so ordinary.
I think he looks like a creepier version of Cameron from Ferris Bueller. But that's just me.
 
  • #424
Unfortunately, I think that Sophia’s mom may have made a mistake by deciding to start doing interviews. People (as a whole) have zero common sense, love to overanalyze + criticize, and can be so cruel to innocent family members (especially parents) of missing people. It’s only a matter of time before people start claiming that Sophia’s mom is suspicious and demanding for her to be arrested. I hope that I’m wrong, but I see this turning into an absolute circus if Sophia is not found soon.
They definitely can be overly critical and cruel. Wow.
 
  • #425
I think they are off grid, and her disappearance isn't national breaking news sadly so I am not going to put too much emphasis on what her mother said. If they are online just enough, I hope Sofia sees there are more than just her family checking in on her daily and she has her entire life ahead of her. I know when I was 16, I thought I knew everything and I couldn't have been more wrong. She has such a long life ahead of her, thinking of her today.
 
  • #426
A couple thoughts I've had...first, we need to consider that LE has been asking the parents to release their comments strategically based on their profiling of the kidnapper and how they think the pair will respond. I'm imagining them asking her parents to, for example, appeal to SF using things they have discussed with her before (your value as a person is not based on your job, etc. - paraphrased)...and then when that did not seem to flush them out, to appeal to SF by taking a pragmatically negative stance toward her kidnapper and what SF's future with him might hold. I'm just thinking that they are probably not just making statements all willy-nilly, but with some sort of strategy directed by LE.

Another thing I have to contribute is that during the 2nd trimester of pregnancy, regular well-visits are generally only once every 4 weeks. I've utilized 5 different practices for 5 different healthy, uncomplicated pregnancies (long story!) and they have all held roughly the same appointment schedule: 1 appointment before 13 weeks along (verify pregnancy, likely an ultrasound to establish due date); appointments every 4 weeks between 13 weeks and 26 weeks; every 2 weeks between 26 weeks and 36 weeks; and then weekly until baby arrives. Additionally, 2nd trimester visits are mostly just checking in, weight and blood pressure, fundal height measurement, basically a well visit - except for the anatomy ultrasound around 20 weeks, which some women choose to forego, anyway. I do not know if there would be other indications for appointment scheduling because she is 16, but she does not appear to have an underdeveloped body that would theoretically have a harder time carrying and delivering a baby, which is, I guess, a relatively good thing in this bad situation.

All that to say, that she might not have "missed" any prenatal care in the almost 3 weeks she has been gone. YET. If she stays gone, she will. And I do hope that they safely resurface and that she is able to process how bleak her future with him would be. All MOO.
 
  • #427
Unfortunately, I think that Sophia’s mom may have made a mistake by deciding to start doing interviews. People (as a whole) have zero common sense, love to overanalyze + criticize, and can be so cruel to innocent family members (especially parents) of missing people. It’s only a matter of time before people start claiming that Sophia’s mom is suspicious and demanding for her to be arrested. I hope that I’m wrong, but I see this turning into an absolute circus if Sophia is not found soon.
She may indeed face backlash for speaking, but she is going to face backlash either way, as so many parents of missing minors do.

The questions in cases like this start almost immediately "why did she feel a need to run away?" "what wasn't she getting at home that made her vulnerable to this older grown man?" "her parents must not be good parents if they didn't even know she was missing last time" "her parents must be too strict and that is why she ran away" etc and on and on.

Parents in this situation often find themselves under attack and being blamed. It is a sad but real state of affairs. When they weren't talking some folks thought that was sus. Now that they are speaking other people will think it's sus.

I for one am glad the parents are doing their best, despite probably being well aware of what some in the public are suggesting about them, to keep the press interested and SF's name and image out there in the public eye. I do not envy them this position, there will be critics no matter what they do. Their only concern is getting their daughter back home. MOO
 
  • #428
A couple thoughts I've had...first, we need to consider that LE has been asking the parents to release their comments strategically based on their profiling of the kidnapper and how they think the pair will respond. I'm imagining them asking her parents to, for example, appeal to SF using things they have discussed with her before (your value as a person is not based on your job, etc. - paraphrased)...and then when that did not seem to flush them out, to appeal to SF by taking a pragmatically negative stance toward her kidnapper and what SF's future with him might hold. I'm just thinking that they are probably not just making statements all willy-nilly, but with some sort of strategy directed by LE.

Another thing I have to contribute is that during the 2nd trimester of pregnancy, regular well-visits are generally only once every 4 weeks. I've utilized 5 different practices for 5 different healthy, uncomplicated pregnancies (long story!) and they have all held roughly the same appointment schedule: 1 appointment before 13 weeks along (verify pregnancy, likely an ultrasound to establish due date); appointments every 4 weeks between 13 weeks and 26 weeks; every 2 weeks between 26 weeks and 36 weeks; and then weekly until baby arrives. Additionally, 2nd trimester visits are mostly just checking in, weight and blood pressure, fundal height measurement, basically a well visit - except for the anatomy ultrasound around 20 weeks, which some women choose to forego, anyway. I do not know if there would be other indications for appointment scheduling because she is 16, but she does not appear to have an underdeveloped body that would theoretically have a harder time carrying and delivering a baby, which is, I guess, a relatively good thing in this bad situation.

All that to say, that she might not have "missed" any prenatal care in the almost 3 weeks she has been gone. YET. If she stays gone, she will. And I do hope that they safely resurface and that she is able to process how bleak her future with him would be. All MOO.
IMO there's no way she's going to show up at a doctors appointment. My guess is they are bunkered down somewhere very remote. Scary. If she were to have any pregnancy related complications, I feel that given the situation, she would not be taken to a hospital. I hope this man would risk his freedom to get her emergency care. I'm scared of what he could do in an emergency situation or if he feels the walls closing in on him.
 
  • #429
FEB 20, 2025
Last summer, Sophia didn't return home. Mom called the police. Police checked the McDonalds where she worked, and they found her.

"And so, we couldn't file a missing person's report because we knew where she was," said Leah Franklin.

Weeks went by, then months. Sophie told her parents she was staying with a friend. They gave her space but messaged her regularly.

"We would ask her questions like 'hey you want to come for a bonfire? Hey, do you want to do this?' And the answer was always 'no, I'm working,'" said Leah Franklin.
 
  • #430
FEB 20, 2025
Last summer, Sophia didn't return home. Mom called the police. Police checked the McDonalds where she worked, and they found her.

"And so, we couldn't file a missing person's report because we knew where she was," said Leah Franklin.

Weeks went by, then months. Sophie told her parents she was staying with a friend. They gave her space but messaged her regularly.

"We would ask her questions like 'hey you want to come for a bonfire? Hey, do you want to do this?' And the answer was always 'no, I'm working,'" said Leah Franklin.
My heart goes out to her parents, big time.
This scum bag "boyfriend" needs to bring this girl home.
 
  • #431
FEB 20, 2025
Last summer, Sophia didn't return home. Mom called the police. Police checked the McDonalds where she worked, and they found her.

"And so, we couldn't file a missing person's report because we knew where she was," said Leah Franklin.


Weeks went by, then months. Sophie told her parents she was staying with a friend. They gave her space but messaged her regularly.

"We would ask her questions like 'hey you want to come for a bonfire? Hey, do you want to do this?' And the answer was always 'no, I'm working,'" said Leah Franklin.
BBM:

IMO:
That makes no sense at all.
 
  • #432
BBM:

IMO:
That makes no sense at all.
not really. I mean if LE went and clapped eyes on SF at her job then she is not "missing" according to their policies and procedures. This probably discouraged her parents from reporting her missing again as the weeks went by with her not returning home, particularly with her always using the excuse she couldn't participate in their family plans because "work" JMO

ETA in hindsight they probably should have called McDonalds to make sure she continued to go to work as time went by and that she was still reporting for work. But yeah, that initial response or lack thereof from police probably made them decide to give her some space in hopes she would return home. IMO
 
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  • #433
BBM:

IMO:
That makes no sense at all.

not really. I mean if LE went and clapped eyes on SF at her job then she is not "missing" according to their policies and procedures. This probably discouraged her parents from reporting her missing again as the weeks went by with her not returning home, particularly with her always using the excuse she couldn't participate in their family plans because "work" JMO
Wasn't she supposedly in Arkansas with Day, but saying she was staying with a friend at this time?
 
  • #434
not really. I mean if LE went and clapped eyes on SF at her job then she is not "missing" according to their policies and procedures. This probably discouraged her parents from reporting her missing again as the weeks went by with her not returning home, particularly with her always using the excuse she couldn't participate in their family plans because "work" JMO

ETA in hindsight they probably should have called McDonalds to make sure she continued to go to work as time went by and that she was still reporting for work. But yeah, that initial response or lack thereof from police probably made them decide to give her some space in hopes she would return home. IMO
I'm assuming that the McDonalds is in Beaver Dam and not Arkansas.
If so and your child didn't come home why would you not first go to the McDonalds where they worked before calling police?
So from July until December no one in the Franklin family stopped by McDonalds to see their child/ sister?
imo:
 
  • #435
I'm assuming that the McDonalds is in Beaver Dam and not Arkansas.
If so and your child didn't come home why would you not first go to the McDonalds where they worked before calling police?
So from July until December no one in the Franklin family stopped by McDonalds to see their child/ sister?
imo:
Agreed. During all that time, they didn’t drop in to McDonald’s to see or talk to her? Rather odd…
 
  • #436
Wasn't she supposedly in Arkansas with Day, but saying she was staying with a friend at this time?
Apparently Day picked her up in Beaver Dam this summer AFTER the parents had reported her missing and LE showed up at her job in Beaver Dam, to find her there, at work. LE then told the parents she wasn't a missing person.

Sometime after that is when she went with Day to Arkansas. In texts and phone calls she continued to indicate to her parents she was still staying and working in the Beaver Dam area.
 
  • #437
Agreed. During all that time, they didn’t drop in to McDonald’s to see or talk to her? Rather odd…
I lived with my best friend after my parents divorced and moved and didn't see them for a year. I was more mature than other kids my age and didn't want to switch high schools. It happens. My friend's parents loved that I was a book nerd and kept my friend semi-out of trouble. I was younger than Sofia. While I know it's not ideal for everyone, my parents checked out on being parents long before and I was happier.
 
  • #438
I lived with my best friend after my parents divorced and moved and didn't see them for a year. I was more mature than other kids my age and didn't want to switch high schools. It happens. My friend's parents loved that I was a book nerd and kept my friend semi-out of trouble. I was younger than Sofia. While I know it's not ideal for everyone, my parents checked out on being parents long before and I was happier.
My daughter had a friend who moved in with us when she was 16, but her parents checked in with ME and her almost daily. They also came over for dinner frequently. Whether she liked it or not, that was how It was gonna be.
 
  • #439
My daughter had a friend who moved in with us when she was 16, but her parents checked in with ME and her almost daily. They also came over for dinner frequently. Whether she liked it or not, that was how It was gonna be.
This exactly. Moving out, I can see. Moving out and everyone involved not knowing exactly where she was...odd. MOO
 
  • #440
My daughter had a friend who moved in with us when she was 16, but her parents checked in with ME and her almost daily. They also came over for dinner frequently. Whether she liked it or not, that was how It was gonna be.
Thank you for providing that. I would have loved that but we all knew no matter the awards I won, the dinners we scheduled, they didn't show up. Their loss! I remember the last time I saw my father which was over a decade ago, I had to wait for him to call out for me because I had no idea what he looked like because it had been a decade prior. But, I was able to do it on my own and I realize it's not traditional but it is all I have known and had to accept from them so I wouldn't keep getting hurt. I'm doing great today. Anyway, little off topic but I would go months without talking to them and I'm only sharing this because I don't think it should be viewed as something odd. It happens more than most know.
 

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