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I've always wondered when people are on the lam. Are the odds greater that they might be recognized in a high population area or a lower one? I feel like if they stay out of larger cities and in more rural areas their odds of escaping detection are better. IME people in more sparsely populated areas tend to stay more to themselves, be more insular, and more "not my business" than larger cities. But I could be completely wrong and maybe it's easier to blend in with the masses when there are more masses to blend into?
 
tlcya said:
I've always wondered when people are on the lam. Are the odds greater that they might be recognized in a high population area or a lower one? I feel like if they stay out of larger cities and in more rural areas their odds of escaping detection are better. IME people in more sparsely populated areas tend to stay more to themselves, be more insular, and more "not my business" than larger cities. But I could be completely wrong and maybe it's easier to blend in with the masses when there are more masses to blend into?
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My guess would be they'd be more easily spotted in a lower population area where everyone at least knows what their neighbors look like, what kind of cars they drive, etc. If suddenly some middle aged dude shows up in a car no one's ever seen in the area before, along with a young woman no one's ever seen... that stands out.

For these two to be gone this long they either had money stashed (doubtful) or have someone helping them (likely), have taken under the table jobs somewhere & staying either off-grid or in a low-rent roach motel (possible) or the worst extreme which I don't even want to consider yet.

jmo
 
tlcya said:
I've always wondered when people are on the lam. Are the odds greater that they might be recognized in a high population area or a lower one? I feel like if they stay out of larger cities and in more rural areas their odds of escaping detection are better. IME people in more sparsely populated areas tend to stay more to themselves, be more insular, and more "not my business" than larger cities. But I could be completely wrong and maybe it's easier to blend in with the masses when there are more masses to blend into?
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That's a good question/ thought. It's really hard to say ,I know when I go visit family in the prairies lol a little small town there's always did you see whose visiting there's a new outta province license but pay no attention to missing people bulletins from other places.but in the city I'm in on the west coast my neighbors notice new people around and are vigilant due to homeless encampments, drugs ECT.
 
tlcya said:
I've always wondered when people are on the lam. Are the odds greater that they might be recognized in a high population area or a lower one? I feel like if they stay out of larger cities and in more rural areas their odds of escaping detection are better. IME people in more sparsely populated areas tend to stay more to themselves, be more insular, and more "not my business" than larger cities. But I could be completely wrong and maybe it's easier to blend in with the masses when there are more masses to blend into?
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i always feel like you stand out much more as an outsider in a low population area, where as in a big city you blend in more! in a big city people might not even know their own neighbours, and they might not really register you unless you do something really unusual, lol.

but if my picture was all over the news i would probably still rather go to a low population area and hope i’m lucky the few people i come across didn’t watch tv that day! and it would be a good thing there wouldn’t be as much camera surveillance too

edit: oops, i’m a little slow, this had already been said :) 🐌
 
detective.moon said:
i always feel like you stand out much more as an outsider in a low population area, where as in a big city you blend in more! in a big city people might not even know their own neighbours, and they might not really register you unless you do something really unusual, lol.

but if my picture was all over the news i would probably still rather go to a low population area and hope i’m lucky the few people i come across didn’t watch tv that day! and it would be a good thing there wouldn’t be as much camera surveillance too

edit: oops, i’m a little slow, this had already been said :) 🐌
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I live in a low population area. We could pick you out in a flash. We even have fb community watch pages in which someone will post, "Saw a guy with a red truck park in front of the restaurant. Anyone know who that was?"
 
tlcya said:
I've always wondered when people are on the lam. Are the odds greater that they might be recognized in a high population area or a lower one? I feel like if they stay out of larger cities and in more rural areas their odds of escaping detection are better. IME people in more sparsely populated areas tend to stay more to themselves, be more insular, and more "not my business" than larger cities. But I could be completely wrong and maybe it's easier to blend in with the masses when there are more masses to blend into?
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As a resident of Las Vegas (NV), I used to wonder why national and international fugitives are caught here so often. I wondered if it were safe to live here because I’d hear the 9/11 terrorists visited here and the local news would report another wanted criminal was apprehended here. Fugitives may come to blend in with the crowds or just have one last hurrah before they’re caught? But there is facial recognition tech indoors and out all over the casino corridor, so they are caught quickly. It’s probably one of the worst places in the US to “hide.” I know Times Square and other tourist attractions in NYC are the same after 9/11. I’d assume other cities have similar systems, depending on their budgets.

So, in a small town you’re recognized for being different, and in a big city, tech may recognize you as a criminal. Where can they be hiding?
 
Ontario Mom said:
My guess would be they'd be more easily spotted in a lower population area where everyone at least knows what their neighbors look like, what kind of cars they drive, etc. If suddenly some middle aged dude shows up in a car no one's ever seen in the area before, along with a young woman no one's ever seen... that stands out.

For these two to be gone this long they either had money stashed (doubtful) or have someone helping them (likely), have taken under the table jobs somewhere & staying either off-grid or in a low-rent roach motel (possible) or the worst extreme which I don't even want to consider yet.

jmo
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To add to your thoughts, another possibility ,perhaps combined with one of the others, is having one or the other of them go out one at a time. I feel this combined with having someone help them ( given they are both still living) may be what I believe most likely. The JD kidnapping case was a case of hiding out “in plain sight” but not that comes to mind. And she even had babies in captivity.
 
Deepinthought52 said:
To add to your thoughts, another possibility ,perhaps combined with one of the others, is having one or the other of them go out one at a time. I feel this combined with having someone help them ( given they are both still living) may be what I believe most likely. The JD kidnapping case was a case of hiding out “in plain sight” but not that comes to mind. And she even had babies in captivity.
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The big difference between the two cases is that JD was literally kidnapped, where SF has left willingly with him, sadly. That aside, it's very possible they're doing as you suggest, going out one at a time so they're less likely to be caught.

jmo
 
If they haven't already, LE really needs to saturate this alert/info into all known areas where Gary Day lived, worked, or called home. People are creatures of habit. I am sure - or rather, i hope - that someone has spotted the car or one of them, but isn't aware that they're wanted/missing.

I'm hoping for good news soon.
 
mst said:
Do you think they are planning to have the baby wherever they are hiding? A 16 year old cannot handle a natural birth in my opinion. Even if they think she can, wait until the first contraction.
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Haha 🤣 you’re not wrong there. I have a high pain tolerance and tried to do natural birth but didn’t last super long and got the epidural. Not sure if the fact I was induced plays a part but regardless, i think it would be a lot for a 16 year old to handle
 
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