WI - Sylville Smith, 23, fatally shot by Milwaukee PD officer, 13 Aug 2016 *Arrest*

[K_Z]

I am so glad to hear this.

Me too. The response last night was completely impotent, IMO. They should have rolled in armored vehicles, water cannons, rubber bullets, bean bag projectiles, pepper spray, tear gas, whatever it takes to restore order and take the criminal rioters into custody.

Basically, police were (IMO) directed to back off to "give them room to destroy", and attack vulnerable people, such as the disabled people in the van. Backing off to let rioters destroy, burn, and attack is not acceptable means of riot management, IMO.

Gunfire from criminal rioters prevented firetrucks from coming in to control the fires-- that's not acceptable. If there is gunfire, then it needs to be STOPPED and CONTROLLED by any means necessary, including lethal means, IMO. The CHILDREN, elderly, and peaceful people in those neighborhoods deserve better protection than that. There were THREE people in the BP station when it was looted and set on fire. IMO, the police response to the riots last night was an epic fail, and a direct "politically correct" pull back.

Hundreds should have been arrested.

 

[CoolJ]

I tried to quote one of the previous posts, but failed. What is the Alderman talking about ? Can he give examples of the inequality and oppression ? I honestly don't understand what he means. I think everyone who is rioting is going with the crowd , not thinking about the unfair situation they are living in.

He is talking about the same things other community leaders right across America are talking about. Why can't we just take what they are saying at face value? How many people need to protest and speak out for the rest of the country to believe that there just may be something to these concerns?

Folks are screaming from the rooftops, and nobody is ready to believe them. And then we wonder why these protests turn into riot type situations? If the deaf ears aren't willing to listen, these situations will continue happening. JMO

 

[angelainwi]

But, there are so many perfect people that are allowed to judge and give advice because they have made the CORRECT choices in their lives, don't 'cha know??

There are major racial issues in Milwaukee. Things are bad here. When will enough be enough?

 

[Inthedetails]

He is talking about the same things other community leaders right across America are talking about. Why can't we just take what they are saying at face value? How many many people need to protest and speak out for the rest of the country to believe that there just may be something to these concerns?

Folks are screaming from the rooftops, and nobody is ready to believe them. And then we wonder why these protests turn into riot type situations? If the deaf ears aren't willing to listen, these situations will continue happening. JMO

The bravest, best thing we can do is listen. It's also the hardest thing....which is why it isn't done.

 

[Dogface]

Me too. The response last night was completely impotent, IMO. They should have rolled in armored vehicles, water cannons, rubber bullets, bean bag projectiles, pepper spray, tear gas, whatever it takes to restore order and take the criminal rioters into custody.

Basically, police were (IMO) directed to back off to "give them room to destroy", and attack vulnerable people, such as the disabled people in the van. Backing off to let rioters destroy, burn, and attack is not acceptable means of riot management, IMO.

Gunfire from criminal rioters prevented firetrucks from coming in to control the fires-- that's not acceptable. If there is gunfire, then it needs to be STOPPED and CONTROLLED by any means necessary, including lethal means, IMO. The CHILDREN, elderly, and peaceful people in those neighborhoods deserve better protection than that. There were THREE people in the BP station when it was looted and set on fire. IMO, the police response to the riots last night was an epic fail, and a direct "politically correct" pull back.

Hundreds should have been arrested.

Agree 1000%. Allowing criminal activity to reach these levels of destruction is unacceptable. These people should have been stopped, by whatever means necessary. I think about the families and people who work at these stores that were destroyed. The people who go to work, and depend on that paycheck, and need their job. What are they to do? Tell their landlord they don't have rent this month? People doing stuff like this, destroying what others have built and rely on, make me sick.

 

[angelainwi]

And why do we pretend to be shocked that riots happen? When we ignore every other outcry, what else is there to do?

 

[Elley Mae]

Class

 

[galiuro]

And why do we pretend to be shocked that riots happen? When we ignore every other outcry, what else is there to do?

Destroying a neighborhood does not make me look kindly on their complaints. It shows a complete lack of empathy for the people in their own neighborhood, complete disregard for property. Why should I pay attention to a bunch of hoodlums causing chaos?

There are ways to make your point without rioting.

 

[galiuro]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-killed-by-milwaukee-officer-idd-as-clean-up-continues/1469291/

Mug shot of Sylville Smith from July 2014.

http://jail.com/arrest-records/sylville-smith-8181826



http://heavy.com/news/2016/08/sylvi...k-photos-pictures-video-mother-sister-family/

A 'nice good person' who intimidated witnesses...the reason he doesn't have a felony lies right there. The victims of his crimes were afraid to testify in court hence the charges were dropped...

 

[Deleted member 39678]

There is no justification for the kind of wanton destruction seen in Milwaukee. JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

There is no justification for the kind of wanton destruction seen in Milwaukee. JMO

I agree - no justification for violence and damage to property.

But I'm more interested in the solution....and for that, we need to be willing to listen to things that we don't want to hear.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I agree - no justification for violence and damage to property.

But I'm more interested in the solution....and for that, we need to be willing to listen to things that we don't want to hear.

I don't see any solution to this problem. I do think that government needs to act quickly and forcibly when riots like this break out to minimize the damage. JMO

 

[galiuro]

I agree - no justification for violence and damage to property.

But I'm more interested in the solution....and for that, we need to be willing to listen to things that we don't want to hear.

How do you deal with folks who don't want a solution? Like the ones in this video from the Milwaukee Police Assn facebook page. Telling straight to cops face that he cannot 'cohabitate with white people'...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4pXEesrjFYGTkhZeXY3RktZNnc/view?pref=2&pli=1

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't see any solution to this problem. I do think that government needs to act quickly and forcibly when riots like this break out to minimize the damage. JMO

No solution?

Wow.

I think the solution will be tough, but I cannot believe there is nothing to be changed, improved, solved.

 

[scmom]

Horrible.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/08/1...riots-fires-after-fatal-shooting-sparks-chaos

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No solution?

Wow.

I think the solution will be tough, but I cannot believe there is nothing to be changed, improved, solved.

What solution to this rioting do you see that has a good chance in working? I don't see one. JMO

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

And why do we pretend to be shocked that riots happen? When we ignore every other outcry, what else is there to do?

Riots are guaranteed to shut down any rational discussion. They just damage the neighborhood where they occur in a myriad of ways. Detroit. LA. Nothing but long term damage followed.

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[K_Z]

And why do we pretend to be shocked that riots happen? When we ignore every other outcry, what else is there to do?

What else is there to do besides riot? Riots happen because people choose to engage in criminal destructive violence against others, and property. No one is compelled to riot because they are poor, or a minority, or because they have personal struggles, or they're bored.

What else can these people do besides riot???

Gosh. It's so easy. Many are able to do it. Of all genders, races, and cultures.

1. Dont' riot.
2. Don't be a criminal engaged in criminal activity. Don't do illegal drugs of any kind.
3. Don't blame police, "racism" or "oppression", for the actions of criminals.
4. Don't tolerate criminal activity. Turn in the criminals to police. Stop the code of silence.
5. Don't blame everyone and everything else for personal problems, lack of motivation to get a job, keep a job. Take personal responsibility.
6. Get an education. Learn a trade or skill. Pay your bills. Pay taxes. Volunteer in your community. Be a good citizen.
7. Get a job, and KEEP a job.
8. Move out of the crime ridden inner city neighborhoods to a safer community, away from criminals. Don't associate with any criminals, or have them in your home. Keep your kids away from kids with criminal records and who engage in criminal activity.
9. Treat others, especially those in authority positions, with respect. Be polite.
10. Bear children responsibly. Don't have any children, or father any children, unless you are going to attentively raise them to be law-abiding, polite, respectful, hard working citizens.

 

[CoolJ]

Riots are guaranteed to shut down any rational discussion. They just damage the neighborhood where they occur in a myriad of ways. Detroit. LA. Nothing but long term damage followed.

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Nobody is condoning riots, or "violent protests" as the media is calling it. Just pointing out that when folks are shouting their concerns from the rooftops, and the response they get is : "you aren't oppressed, you are just lazy"..... That pretty much shuts down any rational discussion as well.

 

[formerjerseygirl]

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