WI - Sylville Smith, 23, fatally shot by Milwaukee PD officer, 13 Aug 2016 *Arrest*

[Irish_Eyes]

That's what's great about WS - don't bring comments from SM here. So to claim people are excusing the violence - that needs to be clarified where these people are voicing their approval. Otherwise, it seems like fellow WS are being accused of it.

Part of the TOS is not telling other posters how to post. You had a question about my post, and I was happy to clarify.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Oh no.
This is not going to end well.
I don't see any LE yet?
As of this time they are in the middle of the street; someone could get run over again.
How is this helping?
Going from bad to worse.
What a complete mess.

When I looked a little bit ago it was just people with posterboard signs. It didn't look particularly dangerous.

 

[CoolJ]

The racists are pretty evenly divided on this issue, actually. Really, take an honest look, you'll see what I mean.

Oh I know, but they are all out in full effect. In fact most comments seem to be out and out racist

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh no.
This is not going to end well.
I don't see any LE yet?
As of this time they are in the middle of the street; someone could get run over again.
How is this helping?
Going from bad to worse.
What a complete mess.

The livestream is not working for me. I'm assuming a crowd is gathering? What's happening - in brief terms. (I'll keep looking.) TIA

 

[formerjerseygirl]

When I looked a little bit ago it was just people with posterboard signs. It didn't look particularly dangerous.

Per police scanner-shots fired at police station earlier-had to board windows . Also per my eyes- several people almost run over while standing in the street.

 

[Muffet]

Riots are guaranteed to shut down any rational discussion. They just damage the neighborhood where they occur in a myriad of ways. Detroit. LA. Nothing but long term damage followed.

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Both rioters and the people who defend or attempt to excuse them. There should be as much zero tolerance for that as there is for any other injustice.

No solution will work until aldermen, politicians, activists, parents, and people everywhere quit trying to excuse* violence and destruction and start requiring respect for facts and wisdom.

What I've seen on twitter and elsewhere is a recipe for the worst kind of escalation.

If the bar continues to be set so low, things will only get worse for everyone.

*"excuse", rationalize, blame anyone other than the people and ideologies behind the violence and spreading irrational hate

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://fox6now.com/2016/08/14/fathe...r-44th-auer-identifies-him-as-sylville-smith/

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Breaking up these pockets of crime and poverty have been proven to work. Gentrification is not a bad solution, IMO. Look at what happened in Chicago with the demolition and redevelopment of the Cabrini Green projects-- which took 20 years to finally get approved. Crime is nearly non-existent in the new buildings. And the low income section 8 residents (guaranteed spots in the new buildings) largely decline to move back into the new buildings and safer communities, for various reasons. Only about 20% returned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrini–Green_Homes#Recent_history_and_future_plans

Chicago doesn't seem like a very safe city to me.

Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%

CHICAGO — Murders in the nation's third-largest city are up about 72%, while shootings have surged more than 88% in the first three months of 2016 compared with the same period last year, according to data released Friday by the Chicago Police Department.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ago-through-first-three-months-2016/82507210/

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://fox6now.com/2016/08/14/chief...n-american-there-are-concerns-for-his-safety/

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://takemelive.com/external/cbsraw
Sheriff Clark live

 

[Wysteria]

The livestream is not working for me. I'm assuming a crowd is gathering? What's happening - in brief terms. (I'll keep looking.) TIA

Sorry for my late reply...I see that another member has helped you out.
At the moment, the live stream is down.
However, if you click on the link provided you'll be able to see the replay.
If the link is not working for you (for the replay); perhaps another member could lend you a hand as I am computer compromised.
There were some close calls, but thanks to the gods I didn't see anyone hit by a car.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://takemelive.com/external/cbsraw
Sheriff Clark live

WE need more Chief Clark's.

 

[Elley Mae]

Probably see some 1033 surplus this evening.

 

[K_Z]

Probably see some 1033 surplus this evening.

I hope so. It's entirely appropriate for both the location, and the circumstances. This neighborhood is a war zone. Police should be equipped appropriately for a war zone in this area, under these circumstances of violence, destruction, and riots.

Hopefully, some of the peaceful residents were able to evacuate the area during the relative lull today. Small children, the elderly, the disabled, etc. They really should get away.

And based on the targeting and beating of "white people" by the rioters, that should be broadcast as a safety warning to the general public, to avoid driving or walking outside in that area, IMO. We have to stop pussy footing around the obvious racial "hate" violence perpetrated by the rioters. It's like politicians pretending radical islamic terrorism is just ordinary violence-- we have to call it exactly what it is, in order to solve the problem. They are rioting because they are criminals, because they "hate" police officers of all races, and they "hate" white people. It's just that simple. None of that can ever be fixed.

There are no conversations, no handouts, no social programs, nothing at all that can fix that kind of criminal behavior and hate, except removing the criminal from society and incarcerating them as long as the law allows. We need to stop busting down all the charges, and stop the plea bargaining that keeps these awful criminals out of prison. They are a cancer in their communities.

 

[Jax49]

Is there LIVE coverage anywhere?? TIA.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Looks like Milwaukee is the most segregated city in America.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2016/01/04/these-are-the-most-segregated-cities-in-america.html

I wonder how all of this turmoil will be handled?

Lol.

So how can decent urban citizens segregate themselves within the segregation from those that they don't want to really deal with?


Because scared people live in these segregated communities as well.

Idk.

 

[human]

Solutions

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...e-Ridden-South-L-A-s-Watts-Sees-Violence-Drop

 

[formerjerseygirl]

Is there LIVE coverage anywhere?? TIA.

If i see any come up i will post them here.

 

[human]

Solutions

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...e-Ridden-South-L-A-s-Watts-Sees-Violence-Drop

Remember Watts? Remember the riots there? The gangs.

Quotes from the article

middle of his shift, Los Angeles police officer Keith Mott trades his gun and uniform for a T-shirt and shorts, and heads to a park in the Watts neighborhood of South Los Angeles. He's there to coach 7- and 8-year-old boys on the Pop Warner Pee Wee football team, the Watts Bears.

The kids come from three nearby housing projects: Jordan Downs, Nickerson Gardens and Imperial Courts. The park was carefully chosen. It's a neutral site for local gangs. Otherwise, most of the Bears' parents wouldn't allow them to come and play.

Since the 1960s, the Watts neighborhood of South Los Angeles has been synonymous with gang violence and racial tension. Combative relations between police and members of the community have long been the norm.

Lately, there's been some improvement. Violent crime has dropped by almost 50 percent in three of Watts' toughest housing projects. There's been only one homicide there in the past two years.

It's a dramatic turnaround — one that's explained in part by proactive efforts by community leaders and changes within the Los Angeles Police Department.

"Even some of the parents who have come out here ... they've talked to us, and they've told us, 'You know, the idea of me standing next to a police officer, [after] all the years I've hated the police.' And they realize we're just here trying to make a difference in the community," Mott says.

Mott, with the LAPD's Southeast Division, is not just any Los Angeles police officer. He's one of 30 cops selected to be part of the force's relatively new anti-crime effort in Watts, the Community Safety Partnership. It's a pilot program targeting the three projects where the Watts Bears' kids come from.

Much of the time, the officers patrol the sprawling, two-story developments on foot. They try to be on a first-name basis with residents. The idea is to engage more than arrest, Mott says, and the program's early success is backed up by the numbers.

The Los Angeles Police Department helped launch the Watts Bears, a team of the Pee Wee division of Pop Warner football, in 2012. The players come from the neighborhood and practice at a park that's considered a neutral site between local gangs.i
The Los Angeles Police Department helped launch the Watts Bears, a team of the Pee Wee division of Pop Warner football, in 2012. The players come from the neighborhood and practice at a park that's considered a neutral site between local gangs.
Courtesy of The Housing Authority of the City of Los Angeles
Take homicides, for example. Among the three projects, there were 43 between 2005 and August 2011 — the month the Community Safety Partnership began. There's been just one homicide since. And according to the LAPD, since 2010, violent crime is down 57 percent in Imperial Courts, 54 percent in Jordan Downs and 38 percent in Nickerson Gardens.

"People look around and they're always seeing the officers," Mott says. "The gangsters, the knuckleheads and the dope dealers, they look around their corners. [If] there's a police officer on the corner, they're moving their activities elsewhere."

 

[human]

For those not familiar with the Watts riot, Milwaukee is like a picnic. It is so easy to say as a white person that there are no issues. As Paul Wellstone said, " We all do better when we all do better."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots