Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

[puzzleme]

Why the burlap? I wonder if the burlap has to do with the killer's age like burlap was used a lot around the time my mother was growing up which would date him as being a least 75 years old.
Or does the burlap have a more personal (sexual) meaning to the killer?
Please let me know your thoughts!

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[LetThemEatCake]

Why the burlap? I wonder if the burlap has to do with the killer's age like burlap was used a lot around the time my mother was growing up which would date him as being a least 75 years old.
Or does the burlap have a more personal (sexual) meaning to the killer?
Please let me know your thoughts!

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A 75 year old killer?? That is very unlikely. I think the burlap is just a matter of convenience. He works in a place or where they are used or he has easy access to them. Maybe he used another method of disposal and the body was quickly discovered, used burlap once, noticed the body was never found and stuck to burlap.

 

[The Nomad]

How can this be reduced to whether you believe or not believe in a theory? We need to go by with what the evidence shows. LISK works alone.

Where is that evidence?

 

[The Nomad]

Kieran Crowley had a source in SCPD and there are other cases where he has released correct information that no one else ever had. I guess it's up to you what you want to believe about the burlap. If Crowley is correct and I suspect he is then I'd bet that the other two of the G4 were in garbage bags

Where does it say about garbage bags? I'm not suggesting his information wasn't correct. I'm suggesting that perhaps it was incomplete.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Where is that evidence?

there is MO evidence on how these victims were chosen and disposed of that clearly distinguishes LISK victims from unrelated victims.

 

[The Nomad]

there is MO evidence on how these victims were chosen and disposed of that clearly distinguishes LISK victims from unrelated victims.

So what's the MO linking the GB4 to the manorville victims? Including the males.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

So what's the MO linking the GB4 to the manorville victims? Including the males.

There is none. We have no idea on the circumstances of those victims' deaths and they were disposed off in entirely different ways from the Gilgo 4. They were also of entirely different profiles and ethnicities. There's nothing to connect them.

 

[puzzleme]

That's how old he would be now not when he started.

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[LetThemEatCake]

That's how old he would be now not when he started.

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That's because you are taking into account all of the bodies. The oldest disposed bodies are not connected to LISK.

 

[The Nomad]

There is none. We have no idea on the circumstances of those victims' deaths and they were disposed off in entirely different ways from the Gilgo 4. They were also of entirely different profiles and ethnicities. There's nothing to connect them.

Right, so to be clear, when you refer to LISK you are refering to GB4 only?

 

[puzzleme]

Gotcha☺

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[LetThemEatCake]

Right, so to be clear, when you refer to LISK you are refering to GB4 only?

That's right.

 

[PictureSnatcher]

Where does it say about garbage bags? I'm not suggesting his information wasn't correct. I'm suggesting that perhaps it was incomplete.

It doesn't say anything about garbage bags. It says that two were in burlap, so the other two were probably dumped with the same method as pre-g4 victims, wrapped in garbage bags, and then it might mean that Megan & Amber are the two in burlap.

 

[The Nomad]

That's right.

Ok. You have no evidence to suggest the older remains in manorville aren't connected though.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

It doesn't say anything about garbage bags. It says that two were in burlap, so the other two were probably dumped with the same method as pre-g4 victims, wrapped in garbage bags, and then it might mean that Megan & Amber are the two in burlap.

Please stop distorting the information.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Ok. You have no evidence to suggest the older remains in manorville aren't connected though.

You are never forced to prove a negative though. There is no evidence that suggests the older remains are connected to Gilgo 4.

 

[The Nomad]

You are never forced to prove a negative though. There is no evidence that suggests the older remains are connected to Gilgo 4.

Then we are talking at cross purposes my friend. Personally I'm undecided whether they are connected. But you can't just ignore them.

 

[WesternArtist]

Kieran Crowley had a source in SCPD and there are other cases where he has released correct information that no one else ever had. I guess it's up to you what you want to believe about the burlap. If Crowley is correct and I suspect he is then I'd bet that the other two of the G4 were in garbage bags

(Here's part of the article; it does say 2.)
CRAIGSLIST MURDER RAMPAGE; INTERNET-AD FIEND DUMPED FOUR BODIES ON LI
Crowley, Kieran; Mollica, Joe; Margolin, Josh. New York Post; New York, N.Y. [New York, N.Y]15 Dec 2010: 4.

A police officer and dog stumbled on a body believed to be Gilbert's on Saturday, during a routine training exercise.
Two days later, the other three bodies were discovered - including one thought to be that of a missing Maine mom.
Two of the bodies were stuffed into burlap sacks.
Police officials reluctantly acknowledged that they might have a Jack the Ripper on their hands.
"I don't think it's a coincidence that four bodies wound up in this area," Dormer told reporters.
Police said the bodies were dumped separately over a period of up to two years and were severely decomposed.

It looks like around December 18th it started being reported that 4 were in burlap.

MYSTERY AT THE BEACH: A week later, cops confounded
Dooley, Emily C. Newsday, Combined editions; Long Island, N.Y. [Long Island, N.Y]18 Dec 2010: A.5.

While Neubauer said cops hadn't even established that the women were victims of foul play, investigators are still pursuing the case as multiple homicide victims dumped at the site. Sources told Newsday on Friday that all four women were wrapped in burlap.

Notice the language "sources told Newsday." Depending on who those sources were, this could be a myth that originated with this article.

 

[PictureSnatcher]

You are never forced to prove a negative though. There is no evidence that suggests the older remains are connected to Gilgo 4.

There are a number of things that suggest the older remains are related. For one they are all the work of a serial killer who has targeted sex workers such as Jessica Taylor & the G4. Two, they are all dumped on the same stretch of road. The timeline flows from the Butcher victims to the G4, 96, 97, 00, 03, 05 (Asian Male) then 07, 09, 10. And if only 2 victims were in burlap, it's very unlikely they were dumped without being covered with some material. That's why I think the two G4 were in garbage bags, just like the early victims. And don't forget that key word. Jane Doe 1996's legs on Fire Island are described as "wrapped in garbage bags" by the LIPress. Peaches is wrapped in plastic inside the tub and her daughter is wrapped in a blanket. Dormer says Jane Doe is wrapped in plastic bags in 2000 in Manorville. And Jessica Taylor's torso is again wrapped in plastic in 2003. Then the two G4 wrapped in burlap. They are all wrapped

 

[The Nomad]

(Here's part of the article; it does say 2.)
CRAIGSLIST MURDER RAMPAGE; INTERNET-AD FIEND DUMPED FOUR BODIES ON LI
Crowley, Kieran; Mollica, Joe; Margolin, Josh. New York Post; New York, N.Y. [New York, N.Y]15 Dec 2010: 4.


It looks like around December 18th it started being reported that 4 were in burlap.

MYSTERY AT THE BEACH: A week later, cops confounded
Dooley, Emily C. Newsday, Combined editions; Long Island, N.Y. [Long Island, N.Y]18 Dec 2010: A.5.


Notice the language "sources told Newsday." Depending on who those sources were, this could be a myth that originated with this article.

Or it could be a correction to a previously incorrect article.

Someone should contact Crowley for confirmation whether he still believes it was two or if he got it wrong and it was four.