Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?
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Yep something about the Tina foglia case....
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That would make LISK around 50 now, I doubt it is him.
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That's about right....in my opinion
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You are absolutely correct , probably a lawyer too. Maybe the killer had a family member or close friend killed and the trauma stuck with him. I do believe he is a person with a history of arrests and endangerment. At this point he has recruited multiple people to be complicite to some degree.
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Interesting, you say that killer may have been traumatized by friend or family member suffering a violent death. I have sensed that too.
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I think he would be older, atleast 60 but most likely mid 60's. I deduct this from the time of the 1996 murder. I live on Long Island and from what I've read, he seems like he owned a boat when he first started killing and maybe even a large truck of some sort to transport bodies. He is organized, probably ran a business with multiple people working for him, that may or may not like him depending on how much they know. He feels almost ENTITLED to kill, and has for some time, likely because of a few twisted reasons. Anyway, assuming the killer had a DECENT sized boat, (one that a man could at least impress a hooker with) it probably took hin until his thirties or fortys to obtain (most boat owners in long island are between 30 and 70. My guess is he used his talents of con artistry and persuasion and attitude to get what he wanted out of people and it's been working for him... Kinda
There are strong links to a person in Long island that has a boat and Residences not far from Manorville or the Gilgo Beach burial ground. He works in construction as a landscaper with his wife, he also has a history of sleeping with and prostitutuing women (did I mention he's over 60?) He is soft spoken, a shrewd businessman and most impressively a cult leader (cant make this stuff up) He seems insuspicious unless you know his history. There are alot of people that believe strongly he is the guy or atleast knows something. He is active online and sleeps with hookers from craigslist and around town (admittedly). I really hope this guy gets found, he talked crazy to his cult about killing himself and others if he ever felt his life would be cut short. This should probably go in another thread, or even a private thread with only verified members but yeah there's hope that this monster will be caught red handed.
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This sounds interesting. Could you give us some further clues about this guy? On the self-defense site you posted on the Shannan/Bissett thread they all have their alter ego fighter names like Red Cheetah, Diamond, Sky Dragon, etc. so I couldn't follow past that. You can't post his name here (unless he's been named a POI in the MSM) but a roadmap of what to google would be great...
a psychic impression:
he is in his fifties...he is still there, not far from his graveyard..he is a watcher..a silent lurker who is active in the night..
he is terrified of being caught, very very careful and has a spotless record...he has very few acquaintances and no friends...no one knows what he does...he feels very very alone..
he is in his fifties...he is still there, not far from his graveyard..he is a watcher..a silent lurker who is active in the night..
he is terrified of being caught, very very careful and has a spotless record...he has very few acquaintances and no friends...no one knows what he does...he feels very very alone..
Sure . Here are links to some forums about the school dating back from 2006 - current. A few of his old students (or him) went on to clarify a few things but that just confirmed what everyone was saying. You will see. All I have to say is Thank God for Google.
Search Aikijiujitsukungfu or follow this link to the 2006 forum
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61288
An article written about the school
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mmalatestnews.com/glimpse-long-island-kung-fu-pain-cult-part-1-3/amp/
Search Aikijiujitsukungfu or follow this link to the 2006 forum
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61288
An article written about the school
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mmalatestnews.com/glimpse-long-island-kung-fu-pain-cult-part-1-3/amp/
Read post 7 from the top by askari
And thread is from 2007 not 2006
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61288&page=2
And thread is from 2007 not 2006
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61288&page=2
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Yes....would be very interesting if we had an employee list for 1982.
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How old do you think the person who left dismembered bodies along Ocean Parkway is??.....
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That was very helpful. I found two associated with that dojo who are landscapers: JP and R(B)D. Which one has the history of paying for sex, a boat, etc? That forum is really interesting. The weapons sound quite twisted -lots about a meathook.
Here are some questions that might help compare details about LISK with a member of this pain cult:
-Is strangulation part of this type of kung fu? Several victims were strangled.
-Would a bow saw be in this person's arsenal? That is what investigators believe JT was dismembered with.
-Any significance to Sundays and Thursdays for this dojo? It looks like classes are on Wednesdays and Sundays. The calls to the victims families were Thursdays and Sundays.
-There was a rumor a while ago about a group of middle-aged guys in the Manorville Pine Barrens doing some sort of ritual with rocks painted red with numbers painted on them. Would this be part of this kung fu?
-You say he is active online. Have you found him on UtopiaGuide or a similar site?
From what I know, he is a man that brags about how much money he's made (supposedly millions) and admits to his students he was a pimp when he was younger but the money he makes now he claims comes by way of honest hard work as a mason and gardener. He picks up both expensive call girls and local prostitutes. He has a variety of tools he uses for work (not just masonry but general construction as well). He owned a company Jeron construction that operated mostly in the 90's and early 2000's. It was basically slave labor, hard work, long hours and low pay until his workers (mostly his students at the time) got tired of making him rich and left. There are several accounts from ex students (verbal) that he has talked them into giving valuable objects and money and acting as a personal "bank" where he had promised them interest or to hold the money until there was enough to purchase whatever goal. People also gave him valuables as collateral for "deals" with a promise the items returned when they did something like lose weight or get a promotion or come to his sessions regularly Etc. He never kept any written notes or ledgers about these transactions, students would just give him money before the lesson Wednesday and Sunday.
There were rumors (not really rumors) that the instructor still bring prostitutes to the school paid for by him or another student also participating. He had a school in patchogue that had a secret room where he would sleep with escorts and sometimes women in his class. This happens on nights right after class which ends roughly at 11:30 in weds and 1am on Sundays.
Strangulation:
In the forums there are post that refer to some of the activities that go on in that place. Women being pulled by their hair, chased and beaten on their rear-end with sticks, all in front of other students sometimes children. There is a chokehold one of their students showed me he learned. It involved pulling the head forward and pushing into the layrnx with the side knuckle bone of the pointer finger. He will probably say different now, but he has taught "disabling" or kill methods to his students before, certainly in the early 2000's and 90's.
Rumors
Do you have a link to that story about the pine barrens? What I found most fascinating are his "hunts" which have taken place all over the island for years even at odd times during the night. He is very familiar with long island, and can find his way from cedar beach (the location of some of his events) to sag harbor (the location of his boat in the summer). Google tells me he owns a few houses but when I check the occupancy they were being rented out. I recall his students saying that the sensei had a secret chamber (dungeon was the word the sensei used) where he would keep bad students and then laughed jokingly. Well from what I know about him I don't find that joke very funny especially with the amount of missing persons. It could be a place if it exists to torture or even dismember . I know he has access to houses in ridge, bayshore (boat storage location) and his parents old house in Brentwood.
Sorry to hit you guys with this so late in the game I had heard of websleuths online a few weeks ago and decided to check it out. this seems to be a very powerful and dedicated group of people looking for justice like myself. Ever since this guy came onto my radar I've had unyielding skepticism that this person might just be the Killer. I know there's a good chance SK is reading. Just want you to know your time is coming to an end , and it won't be long before that AE special comes out with all your followers and friends exposing you.
PS. Lost links to the line barren story
There were rumors (not really rumors) that the instructor still bring prostitutes to the school paid for by him or another student also participating. He had a school in patchogue that had a secret room where he would sleep with escorts and sometimes women in his class. This happens on nights right after class which ends roughly at 11:30 in weds and 1am on Sundays.
Strangulation:
In the forums there are post that refer to some of the activities that go on in that place. Women being pulled by their hair, chased and beaten on their rear-end with sticks, all in front of other students sometimes children. There is a chokehold one of their students showed me he learned. It involved pulling the head forward and pushing into the layrnx with the side knuckle bone of the pointer finger. He will probably say different now, but he has taught "disabling" or kill methods to his students before, certainly in the early 2000's and 90's.
Rumors
Do you have a link to that story about the pine barrens? What I found most fascinating are his "hunts" which have taken place all over the island for years even at odd times during the night. He is very familiar with long island, and can find his way from cedar beach (the location of some of his events) to sag harbor (the location of his boat in the summer). Google tells me he owns a few houses but when I check the occupancy they were being rented out. I recall his students saying that the sensei had a secret chamber (dungeon was the word the sensei used) where he would keep bad students and then laughed jokingly. Well from what I know about him I don't find that joke very funny especially with the amount of missing persons. It could be a place if it exists to torture or even dismember . I know he has access to houses in ridge, bayshore (boat storage location) and his parents old house in Brentwood.
Sorry to hit you guys with this so late in the game I had heard of websleuths online a few weeks ago and decided to check it out. this seems to be a very powerful and dedicated group of people looking for justice like myself. Ever since this guy came onto my radar I've had unyielding skepticism that this person might just be the Killer. I know there's a good chance SK is reading. Just want you to know your time is coming to an end , and it won't be long before that AE special comes out with all your followers and friends exposing you.
PS. Lost links to the line barren story
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