Willow and Bristol Palin post slurs and profanity on FB

[JBean]

I've said what she did was wrong at least 20 times today. The words she used were poor choices for sure.
But, I do understand why she did it. Not that is was right. But, to a 16 year old whose Mother and Sister are being made fun of, the normal reaction is to strike back. And sadly, "that's gay" or "you're gay" is so commonly used, that's what popped into her head to say.

As a matter of fact, she said, "you're gay, I don't even know you"
So, she didn't even know the guy but choose those words. It's not like she could have known his personal sexual feelings to know if he was gay or not.

She used them to be mean, to strike back. It was WRONG.

But, my point is, what should we do???? Harp on her or let her parents handle it? I don't think TMZ should have even reported this. She's a minor. Having a discussion with another minor. His name was blacked out of the TMZ screen shots, but everybody knows who she is so it's ok to bash her.
Make his name public and lets bash on him for a while. I'm overweight and he offended me by using the word FAT. I bet overweight people get just as offended as gay people. My mom got preg when she was a teen and it offended me that he used that against BP. I bet teens who get preg and are then judged for it get just as offended as gay people.

It's only because she is SP's daughter. A celebrity's daughter.

She's a 16 year old child. She made a mistake. Give her a break.

Well, no one here is going to do anything to her LOL. We are just discussing the pros and cons of childish behavior and the ramifications of this being normalized or not by teens in the public eye. Look at the behavior of other famous teens and does it affect the current teens? You bet it does.
The reality is any of us that are discussing this are equally as guilty as the other for perpetuating the interest in this story.
That's what we do here so I am not exactly sure what we are doing wrong?
TMZ basically reports what people are talking about and here we are..talking about it

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The Thread Title is Willow and Bristol Palin post homophobic slurs and profanity on FB.

WP is a minor. That's my biggest issue.

Even though her mother is a public figure, she is not fair game.
Just because WP is on the reality show, this thread is not about that show, it's about a discussion on FB by a minor.

I thought minors were to be protected.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

God forbid it was any of our children being called out in the public arena at the age of 16 for a mistake they made.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

The Thread Title is Willow and Bristol Palin post homophobic slurs and profanity on FB.

WP is a minor. That's my biggest issue.

Even though her mother is a public figure, she is not fair game.
Just because WP is on the reality show, this thread is not about that show, it's about a discussion on FB by a minor.

I thought minors were to be protected.

I would support changing the title of the thread, if that is what is decided.

 

[tlcya]

and with that point I will totally agree Kimberly

I wish that weren't titled that way (Palin daughters would still be accurate and yet still respect the minor aspect.

But the topic of theis FB behavior has definately caught my attention and woken a passionate opinion (i'm sure you couldn't tell, lol)

 

[jandkmom]

I don't think that discussing the topic in general is bad, but to have a thread calling out a kid for making a mistake seems harsh to me. There are Facebooks all over the world and I am sure that there are a lot of inappropriate quotes on most teenager's at some point and time. On a bad day, mine might have me whining about something that next week is insignificant

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Fair enough, but that seems like more of a matter to alert a mod on, rather than branding all of us as a mob wanting to beat on a kid.

I think suggesting that those of us who are here, caring about so many crimes against children, don't care about the rights of minors is fairly insulting, frankly, as I have seen most of the people here work quite hard in that direction.

I would support changing the title of the thread, if that is what is decided.

BBM
Oh my gosh WhyaDuck! When did I say ANYTHING LIKE that?
Please.

She is a minor. She should be protected.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

You suggested we were over-zealous in our desire to punish her and then implied you cared about the rights of minors while the rest of us did not. Granted, my words were hyperbole, but I also don't think that is an accurate portrayal of most of the posters here, or the intent of most of the opinions on this thread.

I didn't imply anything. I gave my opinion that she should be protected as a minor. I NEVER implied anybody here did not care about minors. You are SOOOO putting words in my mouth that I NEVER said.

Hyperbole or not, that is VERY insulting to me. I NEVER said or implied those things.

 

[tlcya]

BBM
Oh my gosh WhyaDuck! When did I say ANYTHING LIKE that?
Please.

She is a minor. She should be protected.

yeah, you did get kinda carried away, Kimberly, I saw the phrase burning at the stake being bandied about

I think everyone got a little hot and bothered and perhaps I will excuse myself from this one til tomorrow, give some dust time to settle.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

You have said I have implied your opinion is invalid and I have implied people here do not care for children. Neither could be farther from the truth. I don't imply. I say it or don't.

Because I disagree with you I am implying???

IMO She made a mistake
IMO Everybody should give her a break
IMO She is a minor and should be protected, especially here at WS.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

yeah, you did get kinda carried away, Kimberly, I saw the phrase burning at the stake being bandied about

I think everyone got a little hot and bothered and perhaps I will excuse myself from this one til tomorrow, give some dust time to settle.

OMG like I really think anybody wants to burn the girl on a stake.
It was a figure of speach. And I didn't say anybody here wanted to do it.

I SAID, what are we to do, burn her on a stake.

That is not saying anything about anyone here.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I didn't imply anything. I gave my opinion that she should be protected as a minor. I NEVER implied anybody here did not care about minors. You are SOOOO putting words in my mouth that I NEVER said.

Hyperbole or not, that is VERY insulting to me. I NEVER said or implied those things.

In the interest of fair play, then, I respectfully withdraw my comments and will consider this topic closed for me, as this is not a matter worth causing this much upset to anyone. It is certainly not worth it to me to be insulting, and I apologize.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I didn't do the studies, I just linked them. I don't really care what people say about teen brains except the experts.

My child's softball coach told me something one time about the prefrontal cortex and I have to admit, I was like HUH???? We were talking about some drama going on with the schools softball team. Now these are 13-14 year olds and I was appauled at some of the things that were being said.
Well, this coach majored in :crazy: what ever you major in to know about the prefrontal cortex :smile: and told me it is perfectly normal for teens to act that way.

I mean all you can do is tell them they screwed up. You can't burn them at the stake. And they will MOST LIKELY mess up again. It's the nature of the "teenage" beast.

BBM - To clear the air - this was not meant to IMPLY anyone here, at Websleuths, wants to burn a 16 year old minor at the stake.

 

[tlcya]

g'night folks. I think I'm done beating this dead horse. I had hoped this thread would turn into a real discourse about young people and social networking but it was not to be.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Then maybe another thread can be started that has to do with that and not two specific girls of a political figure.

 

[jandkmom]

You call your 21 year old out on it still? lol! I bet they love that. :crazy:

Yep...He wrote something to his girlfriend last week and I told him that it was something he should have told her in private. He rolled his eyes, but the thought was placed. Last night we sat on the coach and watched Glee together

Tonight one of the kids that I went to church at from when he was a little fellow put on his wall that he was "drunk". The only comment I put back was "designated driver". He lives in NY now and is a young adult learning...had to throw him a reminder in there lest he forget

 

[JBean]

Come on be nice guys.

 

[jandkmom]

Come on be nice guys.

Just some good debating...all's good I love my fellow Websleuthers!!!

 

[JBean]

Just some good debating...all's good I love my fellow Websleuthers!!!

I am all about lively discussion. We all have to careful and respectful of each other though.
It's all good.

 

[jandkmom]

I am all about lively discussion. We all have to careful and respectful of each other though.
It's all good.

I saw no name calling or fists flying...maybe some rolling eyes, but not much more

Are you going to give me the rules again...I used to get those in the basement ...no talking about JBean...etc...