Woman Gives Birth To Octuplets II

[JMO8778]

Clearly she is talking about the octoplets-radaronline article says that among octoplets there are two sets of identical twins and according to octo-grandma, Nadya couldn't tell which ones were the identical twins. Well by looking at them I can't tell which ones are supposed to be identical twins either. Shouldn't they be looking exactly alike, so which ones are the identical twins?

"And she reveals for the first time that among the octuplets are two sets of identical twins. She says her 34-year-old daughter wasn’t even able to identify the twins on her own."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...rview-octo-moms-mom-says-my-daughter’s-insane

yea,that's weird.what is her point?? none of them are identical anyway.I have the Star mag of the first bday pic,and it's clear there are no twins among them.

 

[JMO8778]

according to wikipedia,none of them are identical (although wiki is not infallible,so take it as you will):


[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleman_octuplets[/ame]

 

[jjenny]

yea,that's weird.what is her point?? none of them are identical anyway.I have the Star mag of the first bday pic,and it's clear there are no twins among them.

Nadya's been claiming from the beginning she had six implanted. Which means she'd have to have two sets of identical twins among the octoplets. Sounds like her mother is trying to convince people of that.

 

[drip~drop]

"I lost everything I had,” Nadya Suleman’s mother Angela tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

“I had two houses, and now I’m in a rental,” Angela Suleman says. And she says it’s because her famous daughter borrowed money “and she never paid me a cent.” Suleman says her daughter known as Octo-Mom is “so out of it, she doesn’t care.”
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-interview-octo-moms-mom-says-my-daughter%E2%80%99s-insane

Is this a new pic? IMO, she has had more "work" done on her face.
I really have to laugh that this woman has 2 extra hours a day to spend at the gym. We have an 8 month old puppy and with my other duties that do NOT include 14 children I don't have that kind of time.

Also, IMO....no, she doesn't care. As long as HER needs are met. Those poor babies.

 

[Vegas Bride]

In that picture she looks like The Joker to me.

Doesn't she have 1 baby with a cleft palet that needs correction? She can have all these surgeries for herself but not for the baby who actually needs it? :banghead:

VB

 

[JMO8778]

In that picture she looks like The Joker to me.

Doesn't she have 1 baby with a cleft palet that needs correction? She can have all these surgeries for herself but not for the baby who actually needs it? :banghead:

VB

yes, that appears to be the deal

 

[BuzzieCat]

Nadya's been claiming from the beginning she had six implanted. Which means she'd have to have two sets of identical twins among the octoplets. Sounds like her mother is trying to convince people of that.

I've always suspected - pure speculation - that her parents are in on it too, at least to some degree, and trying to seem pitiful so people will sorry for the grandparents and/or the babies and donate.

 

[Indianagirl]

Identical twins don't always look alike. It just means that they came from the same egg and sperm. Fraternal twins come from 2 different eggs and 2 different sperms. Ironically Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson are fraternal twins! I'm an identical twin and they look more alike than my sis and I.

 

[jjenny]

Identical twins don't always look alike. It just means that they came from the same egg and sperm. Fraternal twins come from 2 different eggs and 2 different sperms. Ironically Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson are fraternal twins! I'm an identical twin and they look more alike than my sis and I.

Identical twins come from the same egg splitting into two. They have the same genes-they are clones of each other. So I don't understand as to how and why they would not look alike, having the same genes and being clones of each other. How sure are you that you are an identical twin and not fraternal?

 

[JMO8778]

LOL adnoid

 

[jjenny]

Is this a new pic? IMO, she has had more "work" done on her face.
I really have to laugh that this woman has 2 extra hours a day to spend at the gym. We have an 8 month old puppy and with my other duties that do NOT include 14 children I don't have that kind of time.

Also, IMO....no, she doesn't care. As long as HER needs are met. Those poor babies.

TMZ has a photo of her looking very "busty." I personally don't think she looked quite that "busty" in her bikini shot.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/22/octomom-nadya-suleman-🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬-mortgage-foreclosure-photo/

 

[Indianagirl]

Identical twins come from the same egg splitting into two. They have the same genes-they are clones of each other. So I don't understand as to how and why they would not look alike, having the same genes and being clones of each other. How sure are you that you are an identical twin and not fraternal?

I'm sorry, I should have worded that better. What I was trying to say is, yes they will resemble each other but not necessarily be a mirror image of one another. Weight is another factor. It's common for one twin to always be a little bit heavier, which continues as they grow. I weighed more than my sister at birth and to this day I still weigh about 5-10lbs more than her. Also, I am positive I'm an identical twin, lol!

 

[shana]

I'm sorry, I should have worded that better. What I was trying to say is, yes they will resemble each other but not necessarily be a mirror image of one another. Weight is another factor. It's common for one twin to always be a little bit heavier, which continues as they grow. I weighed more than my sister at birth and to this day I still weigh about 5-10lbs more than her. Also, I am positive I'm an identical twin, lol!

From my limited experience observing identicals, they appear more as clones of each other when young but as they mature they may differ, and some of them quite a lot.

iirc, there are sufficient cases/studies to show the impact of environmental influences, etc, on those who were separated during their maturing years.

But even without those influences, ppl make choices...identicals are not governed by a same mind.

In O-mom's case, we are viewing infants who *should* look just alike at such a young age.

 

[JMO8778]

none of the tups have the same features,and some of them even appear to be of different ethnicities.(like the 2 girls).I think it is reasonable to say that none of them are identical.

 

[LCoastMom]

From the Daily Mail a week after the birth...

I wonder what he would say about eleven!! :waitasec: :dance:

It is unlikely that the woman had IVF, according to Peter-Bowen Simpkins, a British consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist, as 'no doctor in his right mind' would put eight embryos in a womb.

The risks with multiple births are so great that IVF doctors in the UK have been issued with guidance on restricting them. Would-be mothers will be implanted with only one embryo at a time whenever possible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...-Mum-weak-hold-babies--theyre-doing-well.html

Oh Goodness JMO! it's too early in the morning for this:

http://www.californiachronicle.com/a...s/yb/142781935

Adnoid that there is a move for celibacy for all... :sick: :sick:


On TMZ:

Nota'ma says we are not losing the house; the kids are fine, the house is fine; "I'm totally desensitized by everything now. Since the beginning 95% of everything has been made up and catastified It's all a .. The kids are healthy and thriving and that cartoon ( Ok she, said fictional ) character has nothing to do with me nor has it ever.... I haven't been late on my mortgage. The details I would rather not even get into, but we're not losing the house."

Notice he asked about the house and as usual she made it all about her!! :crazy: :crazy:

I wish we could tell Mr Amer Haddadin, Nutty said it so he can take it to the bank but if anything it means the opposite. As everything she has said for the last 12 months has proved to be a lie.

The seller, Amer Haddadin, transferred title to Octo's dad. In return, Octo and her dad were required to make monthly payments of $4,139 for one year. On March 10, 2010, a balloon payment of $450,000 was due.

He gave her an extension, (she has til today....)

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/19/octom...-mortgage-la-habra-bank-deed-balloon-payment/

 

[JMO8778]

well obviously the doc was not in his right mind!! LOL.i mean the evidence is there...8 babies! i don't think this was a case of hyperstimulation of ovaries and then insemination ..if that were the case,then they would all at least be of the same ethnicity.as it stands,it looks like a few stray eggs were thrown into the mix in order to up the chances of a HOM pregnancy ..JMO.

 

[LCoastMom]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/41024/2010/01/octomom-talks-and-drives

When did the front of her van get clipped??

Angela, who enjoys talking about her grandchildren, says two of the older children are going to private school. And she reveals for the first time that among the octuplets are two sets of identical twins. She says her 34-year-old daughter wasn’t even able to identify the twins on her own.

Twinz my eye, she has never been able to tell any of the babies apart, (except the glutton and the cry baby.) the first thing she is heard saying when she walked into the NSY with 3 & 4 is that she doesn't know who is who. She has always called them "Angel" and on camera she has repeatedly screwed up their names when introducing them.

I don't watch the View but the clips posted on the net, show her to be just as crazy as she is, her laugh alone should be outlawed as child abuse, that is the stuff night mares are made of... poor babies. (All 14)

I couldn't understand what she was thinking when she bought that house, it was not a good design for a woman with 14 kids. Now knowing she moved in with nothing down and seller financed for a year explains a lot.

“I don’t think she will be evicted,” Nadya’s attorney Jeff Czech told RadarOnline.com on Monday.

The Sulemans believe the former owner Amer Haddadin failed to disclose a water leak problem and a roofing problem before the sale. Czech says “her father has some issues with non-disclosure with the seller.”

And Czech says that could cause “some litigation.”

Haddadin claims the Sulemans have not made good on a $450,000 loan and has given them until end of business Tuesday to pay up for face foreclosure.

Czech says he’s confident they will be able to refinance the balloon payment. And, he says, worse case scenario—a foreclosure could take at least 3 months. “It’s not a speedy process.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ays-hes-confident-octo-mom-will-keep-her-home

 

[Roselvr]

I couldn't understand what she was thinking when she bought that house, it was not a good design for a woman with 14 kids. Now knowing she moved in with nothing down and seller financed for a year explains a lot.

I always said she should have taken what ever money she had and moved to a state that was cheaper to live in. For what she spent on that house, she could have gotten a mansion elsewhere. She also could have had a nice rancher built with a finished basement.

I can't stand her. She's clueless about everything. As much as I hate to say it; I wish Gloria would have won a case against her & had the kids adopted out in pairs of "twins"; keeping the 2 girls together, then 2 boys each.
.

 

[LCoastMom]

well obviously the doc was not in his right mind!! LOL.i mean the evidence is there...8 babies! i don't think this was a case of hyperstimulation of ovaries and then insemination ..if that were the case,then they would all at least be of the same ethnicity.as it stands,it looks like a few stray eggs were thrown into the mix in order to up the chances of a HOM pregnancy ..JMO.

I totally agree and am still in awe that you were able to pick that up when they were newborns. Watching that clip on TMZ was almost too much, she actually seemed kinda stressed talking to him.

The Valentines date pix cracked me up he couldn't sit any further away on that blanket, while they picnicked! Strange tho that she keeps being photographed with the same babies. What's going on with the rest of them that she isn't keeping them in front of the camera too?

 

[LCoastMom]

I always said she should have taken what ever money she had and moved to a state that was cheaper to live in. For what she spent on that house, she could have gotten a mansion elsewhere. She also could have had a nice rancher built with a finished basement.

I can't stand her. She's clueless about everything. As much as I hate to say it; I wish Gloria would have won a case against her & had the kids adopted out in pairs of "twins"; keeping the 2 girls together, then 2 boys each.
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But Rose Hollywood would be too far away...:dance: