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BeanE said:
lol. We're almost there.

Thanks for your patience and understanding, everyone.

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We're almost where?

Oh lordie, I'm already lost half the time - just don't know where I am.

And now, I guess don't know where I'm almost at either.

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scandi said:
I just have the beginning of my theory, rather, it isn't thought out all the way through yet:

It has seemed odd to me that Kyron wanted to go see the electrical exhibit right away, not waiting to go with his class group of 6. It's been a gnawin' at me for days now.

BANG It just hit me as to why. He knew he had to leave school and wouldn't be there for the tour.


Familial it was and he was told someone was going to be there to pick him up around 9, to be watching for ??? ~ a certain friend of the family or relative to pick him up. It could have been said as an exciting event for Kyron if say family was in from out of town for the day and they were planning to spend time together.

Now something radically went wrong, the worst scenario Kyron never expected to happen, and he died in the act of it. Something his caregivers never expected to happen. And from this tragedy, familial again, Sauvie Island came into play as it was where he was taken for placement.

What a horrific situation that would be. And it would explain everything that has happened in the last 14 days.

IMO there is a connection to SI with this person and/or the familial part again and I do believe LE has put their finger on it, just don't have all their i's dotted yet.

Realizing too that having knowledge of a crime and not giving it up to protect someone makes one as guilty as if they had done it themselves IMO

Hope it is OK to post that, if not I'll delete it.
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Okay, Scandi, I'll bite, and ask some follow-up questions:

You're assuming that someone Kyron knew picked him up from school. You're saying Kyron expected to be picked up by this person? And he was told by his family that this someone would be there? Something happened while in this person's care. Kyron died. Kyron was taken to SI for disposal/burial/"placement"? Somehow SI is connected to the perp? In your theory, did Kyron also die at an SI location in your theory? Or somewhere else?
 
Emma Peel said:
Okay, Scandi, I'll bite, and ask some follow-up questions:

You're assuming that someone Kyron knew picked him up from school. You're saying Kyron expected to be picked up by this person? And he was told by his family that this someone would be there? Something happened while in this person's care. Kyron died. Kyron was taken to SI for disposal/burial/"placement"? Somehow SI is connected to the perp? In your theory, did Kyron also die at an SI location in your theory? Or somewhere else?
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I haven't quite got that far :angel: I think it was planned for Kyron to be picked up around the 9ish hour. Otherwise he would have no reason to go see that E project early. He was told to be watching for someone in particular who would pick him up.

I think the person who might have picked Kyron up would be the type of person who would dispose of a body in a wooded setting not drive very far to do it. It most likely took place sooner than later and the perp had a lot of lead time when no one knew he was even missing.

With no windows for a sighting and a quick run from the South door to the parking lot, it could have happened in a couple blinks of an eye and they were off.

xox
 
swa said:
Very well thought out observations. I think the most important two statements in your great recap are:

Who felt Kyron was a burden. Who felt Kyron was an obstacle?

Follow the trail.
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If he were abducted for sexual purposes (makes me nauseous to even type that), then he would have been a burden to that person.

Under that assumption, the sexual act would have been the point of the abduction and murder would be means chosen to cover up the sexual act. Eliminate the eyewitness and dispose of his body in such a way that any DNA evidence would be likely to be too degraded to use.

That is the basic outline behind a bunch of stranger abductions, like Danielle van Dam, Riley Fox, etc.
 
Emma Peel said:
Okay, Scandi, I'll bite, and ask some follow-up questions:

You're assuming that someone Kyron knew picked him up from school. You're saying Kyron expected to be picked up by this person? And he was told by his family that this someone would be there? Something happened while in this person's care. Kyron died. Kyron was taken to SI for disposal/burial/"placement"? Somehow SI is connected to the perp? In your theory, did Kyron also die at an SI location in your theory? Or somewhere else?
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I think LE had some info early on that whoever took Kyron was the type who would dispose of a body in a wooded type setting so hence the upscale search in the 2 mile radius of the school.

Then they must have got some really good info {As Officer Jensen said on TV} that the perp was driving and put at Sauvie Island and not by the school, hence the SI search. Makes sense as that is how the searching worked out.

As to where he died, if he did, I think it happened in the car hthe perp was driving, maybe parked on some lone road up on that big hill.
 
Starry Night said:
My theory is that first and foremost this was a crime of opportunity. That the perp has been a perp forever....a child lover/predator. That HE saw K and on a breathless moment just took him. He is probably a resident nearby or a neighbor in the surrounding area and when he saw the marquee advertising the event-wham. In and out. Sort of organized and unorganized......Probably had a few drinks in him from the night before. Saw this beautiful child with glasses on. For some odd reason I feel the glasses made this boy more vulnerable and attractive. I bet 10 to 1 that he (the perp) is on video or film somewhere. I do not think this perp really knows anyone at the school. He may have made some practice runs before the Science Fair-sitting in the parking lot in his car or walking in or phone calls to determine level of security/stupidity etc. I feel that the perp had a model child in mind before he arrived at the school. He must be good at blending in. I bet he also wears glasses. FWIW.
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Your theory is very plausible to me.

The only thing about it that doesn't seem plausible is that he walked into the school on one or more occasions to check out the security. On ordinary days, it sounds like security was pretty good. I don't have a link but I do recall reading that on ordinary days they had a badge system for visitors but it was too cumbersome to use on science fair day (short time period with high traffic).

I do agree that he may have parked in the parking lot, called the school, etc, to research the area.

When you say you think the perp wears glasses, that gives me the chills.
 
I truly think this is one of the most unusual and most difficult cases I have ever tried to follow.

This morning I am back to thinking I really don't know what happened to Kyron and at the moment my theory meter is on zero.

There are just so many theories that would fit but now I am not even sure my previous theory is really what I think may have happened.

So I have to stop and take a deep breath and go back to :waitasec:.

IMO
 
I think there are so many theories that ostensibly could fit the case because so little information is known that our imaginations have to fill in the huge blanks.

My theory is that the police suspect someone but don't have the evidence needed to arrest that person.

Furthermore, the person they suspect may be innocent. Remember Richard Ricci in the Elizabeth Smart case?

Who could it be? A relative, a stranger, someone who is connected to the school (employee or volunteer, parent, sibling of student, student, relative or friend of a student's family), someone who is a friend or neighbor of the family, a visitor to the science fair who is unconnected with the school.

That doesn't narrow the suspect field down to less than a thousand people. Of course, LE has narrowed it by having verified alibis of a large number of these people. I bet that still leaves plenty of people hanging out in the field, though.

I think that LE's best hope is to find Kyron. Then they can coordinate every interviewee's known whereabouts to that location to (hopefully) narrow the suspect field, while they await crime lab test results which will (hopefully) pinpoint the perp and/or a confession.

Their second-best hope is that eventually, if the perp is someone in the immediate family circle, s/he will crack under the pressure and confess. I hope not, though, because I am sick and tired of evil people, who are supposed to love and care for their children, hurting them.

So that's my meaningless assessment of the situation: I suspect virtually everyone in the suspect field, but particularly those people who had a reason to be at the science fair and actually knew Kyron before he disappeared.

ETA to my suspect field: Friends & relatives of people who work and/or volunteer at the school. Gosh, any of the suspect field could have mentioned to a store cashier that they were buying things for this particular science fair -- red flag goes up with cashier (good hunting ground) or cashier tells someone about it whose red flag goes up. Of course I realize that the most likely perp is someone who actually knew Kyron well before he disappeared.

RC
 
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If Kyron had been harmed in any way (punished) and had visible marks on his body, possibly the family was afraid of his mother seeing the marks that weekend. Waiting until the last moment to "hide him away" and creating a scene to make it look like he walked away or was taken. There would be love for the child - as they waited until the last possible moment - but fear took over. If the mother and step father saw marks on the body, they could take Kyron. Maybe they would also accuse someone of harming other children that had been in the home. Fear of losing a child is tremendous.
 
balaney said:
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If Kyron had been harmed in any way (punished) and had visible marks on his body, possibly the family was afraid of his mother seeing the marks that weekend. Waiting until the last moment to "hide him away" and creating a scene to make it look like he walked away or was taken. There would be love for the child - as they waited until the last possible moment - but fear took over. If the mother and step father saw marks on the body, they could take Kyron. Maybe they would also accuse someone of harming other children that had been in the home. Fear of losing a child is tremendous.
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That smile on his face in front of his display was genuine, real. HUGE. He has that in nearly every picture taken of him, even those where he is solitary and contemplative. I just don't see a pattern of abuse in what we see of him in these still frame sections of his life.

For instance, in Caylee's case, there are dozens of pictures where her eyes are haunted, even through her smiles. Kyron looks like a well loved little boy.

I do wonder, though, about the artwork we were shown versus the artwork which was on his desk....distinctly different quality levels.
 
It seems to me that there are four main possibilities that would account for Kyron's disappearance.

1) Kyron left school on his own and got lost. Under this theory, he is most likely dead, considering the number of days that have passed. There is no hard evidence known at this time to support this theory. The inferential evidence supporting this is the nature of the first part of the search and there have been no suspect sketches or vehicle alerts released. Even though there was an extensive search by highly qualified personnel, there is still a chance his body could be out there; there have been cases where searchers repeatedly walked within feet of a body before realising it.

2) Kyron was abducted by a family member. Under this theory, he is most likely dead as it seems unlikely he was subject to a custody dispute. The hard evidence for this theory is the fact that Kyron's SM has placed herself as one of the last people to see him (later sightings could be confusion on the part of witness/es). The inferential evidence relies on analyses of family dynamics, LE behaviour (areas where searches have been concentrated, information released, questions answered or not answered, etc).

3) Kyron was abducted by someone he knew who was not a family member, such as a friend, school member. Considering the high profile of this case, it is unlikely that he remains alive under this theory. There is no hard evidence to support this theory that I am aware of. Inferential evidence to support this theory is the fact that there were no strangers reported at the school around the time Kyron disappeared and the possibility that familiarity with school procedures aided the perpetrator.

4) Kyron was abducted by a stranger or by someone whose connection to the family is extremely distant (such as a delivery person, store clerk, former co-worker, etc). There is no hard evidence released that supports this theory. Inferential evidence includes examples of previous cases of stranger abductions and analyses of LE behaviour.

Under this theory, it is not clear whether Kyron is alive or dead although the probability is roughly 3 to 1 that he was killed within the first hour. However, there have been several cases of long term imprisonment by abductors.
 
Fox News just said...guess who LE is focusing on now....

Coming right up after a break...
 
I know Trigger....I'm glued to my set, too...how many teasers do they need for one story??
 
MSNBC just reported SM is indeed now the main focus of the investigation. LE believe she was at Sauvie Island on the 4th and that her whereabouts that day are inconsistant.
 
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