Would you lie in court to save your child? CLOSED FOR REVIEW

[Just Jayla]

I think I would be so devastated they wouldn't be able to understand what i was trying to say between my tears and crying. i don't think I could ever deal with this situation before us.

I think that's the most real, raw answer I have read yet. So true.

 

[marlap]

I haven't seen anything that Cindy has done outside of this case that would make me think she is any worse or better than a typical person. The fact that she did help her daughter with her child shows me is is a supportive and kind person.

I just think she's getting a lot of unfair backlash as if Casey is the way she is because of her mother. Well no, most kids are born the way they are. Parents can help but it's not her mother's fault she's the way she is. I don't think it's fair to dump it on Cindy.

I don't think it's fair either.

Besides, I refuse to waste one tiny drop of anger regarding this case on anyone except ICA.

The A's may not be perfect, but they loved Caylee and she loved them.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Because he's mine. End of story.

I would fight for my child's life if the death penalty was hanging over his head. This includes lying under Oath if I had to.

I think I may do the same. I can't ever imaging not loving my son, reguardless whatever he may do. I do not think I could help the state stick a needle in his arm.

IMo Casey deserves to be put down like a rabid dog. But her parents do not deserve to have to assist in that process let alone live with it.

No matter how hard I try....I can't even begin to imagine the hell these parents are living.

 

[2door73chevy]

There is a whole world of theory out that about nature vs. nurture. I definitely believe that allowing a child to steal thousands of dollars and then telling your husband, her other parent, not to discipline her, is a signal to KC that she can do as she pleases and mommy will bail her out. KC felt that she could kick George out of his own house, which to me was mimicry of her mother's disregard for her husband. Even if Cindy had reason to be angry with the man she has matrimonial bonds with, KC had no right to disrespect him in his own home, and then have her lawyer say that Cindy was divorcing George at KC's behest.
If my daughter handed me a clearly faked deposit slip when she actually stole $4,000.00, I would not let it go unpunished. Shirley sure didn't, she called the bank and considered pressing charges. Any did press charges. That's what most people do, related, friends, or otherwise, when someone has shown a pattern of disregard for others.

As I mentioned, I do not think any typical person would:

-Tell a boy whose check KC stole that he should get over because she "only did it once."
-Call a man whose daughter was murdered and say sarcastically that I know he lost his daughter and all, but I'll expose you anyway cause you don't mess with the Anthony's without repercussion.
-Tell Zenaida that she is not a perfect 10, but she is a perjurer because she is "C. Zenaida Gonzaleeeee"
-Take a baseball bat to a cross while screaming F$%k this LEO, F that FBI agent, F$%k this other guy
-Get in her car and follow a woman and her young daughter around trying to frighten them to the point the woman had to call the cops because CA/GA cornered her with their car
-Set up a foundation that was shut down due to inpropriety
-Write on their granddaughter's memorial foundation page about all the haters out there instead of making it about Caylee
-Take all of the items left at a memorial for Caylee on Suburban and remove them/toss them
-Refer to John Morgan as a drunken slug
-Blame KC's high school for the fact that she did not graduate, which Lee later eluded was due to KC's skipping school

I am sorry, I just don't think most people behave this way. Some, but not most.

ETA-Does any of this mean CA made KC kill Caylee? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I know ICA stole 45G from her family and something should have been done right THEN!
I think CA & GA were very weak for not pressing charges against that.

 

[marlap]

I think I may do the same. I can't ever imaging not loving my son, reguardless whatever he may do. I do not think I could help the state stick a needle in his arm.

IMo Casey deserves to be put down like a rabid dog. But her parents do not deserve to have to assist in that process let alone live with it.

No matter how hard I try....I can't even begin to imagine the hell these parents are living.

I know...I think immediate family should not be forced to testify in DP cases...like spouses aren't forced.
It's really harsh.

 

[txsvicki]

If I thought my child was being railroaded I still wouldn't lie, but might hold back on telling some things that led up to the incident, such as arguments or suspicions that wouldn't prove anything but make it look worse. If I thought my child was a monster psychopath I would tell it all and would rather that they get the death penalty for protection from other inmates and just let appeals and God take over. Cindy isn't telling it all IMO. Why would she be so concerned about what could be causing an overly tired sleepy dog AND things that could affect Caylee all at the same time. The dog wasn't sick, it was "extremely" tired and sleepy. What was going on and suspected in March....

 

[sappysoul]

I haven't seen anything that Cindy has done outside of this case that would make me think she is any worse or better than a typical person. The fact that she did help her daughter with her child shows me is is a supportive and kind person.

I just think she's getting a lot of unfair backlash as if Casey is the way she is because of her mother. Well no, most kids are born the way they are. Parents can help but it's not her mother's fault she's the way she is. I don't think it's fair to dump it on Cindy.

bbm

Well, actually no one really knows that at all. Centuries of research would say otherwise.

 

[Jack]

I said I don't know. But now that I've had longer to think of it I would probably change that to yes I would. Look I wouldn't turn the other way if my kid stole a car, or was a sicko murderer, but if I believed he accidently or unintentionally killed someone I probably would do whatever I could to help him not get the DP.

 

[Jorjamay]

I am not sure what I would do the Moral part of me says it wrong to lie........ but the Mum in me I know would do anything to protect my child from dying (I wonder if she would of testified differently if the DP was not on the table.) in the end I think I would probably try to do some kind of spin like turn a full out fight in to a cosy evening watching videos and looking a pictures.

 

[Deleted member 46332]

I don't feel any connection to the Anthony's. They started obstructing this investigation well before the death penalty was hanging over ICA's head. I would understand her testimony today if it was the words of a desperate woman who has always been truthful. They have a habit of protecting ICA and excusing her behavor. It's what they have always done and what they know to do.

That said...I have known parents that excuse everything their children do. Parents who might have raised coddled poorly functioning adults, but certainly not child killers. ICA is wholly and fully to blame in my opinion.

I voted that I would lie...I think I would, but I doubt I could do it well. I would be broken in every possible way. I doubt that the lie would penetrate that sort of personal nightmare. I would be numb and would say what I had to say. I would not be proud, but in my grief would I really notice? The shame of lieing would be nothing compared to the shame of raising and loving someone that grew into a monster.

I pray that I am raising kind and empathatic children and that I will never walk a step let alone a mile in their shoes.

 

[thefrostingflake]

I would NOT. I teach my kids that there are consequences to their actions. If they don't like the consequence, then don't do the action. I would do everything within me that I could LEGALLY to save them but, I would not lie to cover for them. Nope.

 

[Just Jayla]

I don't think it's fair either.

Besides, I refuse to waste one tiny drop of anger regarding this case on anyone except ICA.

The A's may not be perfect, but they loved Caylee and she loved them.

There is a statement analyst (don't wanna link his blog) that I heard talking about love and a whole philosophical discussion on whether they really did love Caylee, or were enamored with the thought of having Caylee as a trophy. I hollered at the radio because I really always thought CA loved Caylee, although I have to give the guy credit for making me think.
To stay on topic, is CA lying on the stand an act of love, deparation, both? As I wrote, I think it's selfish that she is not thinking through how this could hurt KC, but this selfishness, wanting to own what happens to KC, is that done out of love? Controlling behavior? Both?

ETA-If you answered that you would lie for your child because you don't want them to die, do you feel that is a selfish want, or do you feel more strongly that you are being selfless because you are putting yourself out in spite of possible repercussions?
No judgement, really curious and love the debate on the subject.

 

[Sleuthster]

Im not going to quote the posts that question why those who would not lie would let their children face the possibility of the DP instead of LWOP. I just want to touch on the subject and I am not trying to offend anyone but I personally believe that you would have to walk in someone's shoes to comprehend one's belief in the the DP. If you have never been effected by the loss of someone close to you by anothers hands you can't possibly feel what a person feels that has. There is no closure no matter what. The pain that is caused by a murder effects people for many decades, many generations, the pain and the trama do not go away. It basically not only kills the victim but their families, the children of their families, the grandchildren of their families, and so on. I knew because my family lost 2 people close to us to murder and another where the child was found behind our house. In the case of the child, I met by chance someone decades later that was the last person to see the murderer right before he left on his quest to kill that poor child. A broken old man named Fred. He was never the same and my family will never be the same.

If I have not raised my children to be respectful of human life, where they feel compelled to take the life of another causing pain to all that knew this person and generations to come, then they should be punished by the guidelines of the law of that state. If the DP is one of these options then it is up to a jury to decide by the evidence and not by what I feel should be the outcome because its my child.

They will always be my children no matter what, but justice is warranted for crimes where one takes the life of another especially in a premeditated manner.It's not about my child anymore when this happens but how they must pay for taking a life of another. JMO

Point is, please do not be harsh and say that we must not have kids and we dont care, we do you just have never walked in our shoes and I pray that you never do.

 

[strawberry]

I won't even lie so my kid can stay home from school when she's not sick. NO WAY

 

[Who_What_When]

I voted I don't know but after thinking about it I got to say that yes I probably would. I would do anything to save my child's life. Going to jail for life and getting the death penalty are two completely different things. Even if this was my grandchild, I would be furious with my child and I would never forgive them but I wouldn't want them put to death. I just asked my husband and he said the same thing.

My Mom said something the other day that really made sense to me...she said that she doesn't understand why everyone kept saying this family is dysfunctional because they didn't or don’t want to believe their daughter could do this, she said she would say they were more dysfunctional if they were absolutely sure that she killed her and they weren’t trying to help her. If you think about it, that really makes sense.

:fence:

 

[Linda7NJ]

If I thought my child was being railroaded I still wouldn't lie, but might hold back on telling some things that led up to the incident, such as arguments or suspicions that wouldn't prove anything but make it look worse. If I thought my child was a monster psychopath I would tell it all and would rather that they get the death penalty for protection from other inmates and just let appeals and God take over. Cindy isn't telling it all IMO. Why would she be so concerned about what could be causing an overly tired sleepy dog AND things that could affect Caylee all at the same time. The dog wasn't sick, it was "extremely" tired and sleepy. What was going on and suspected in March....

Oh Dear God...perhaps what Cindy is saying is true. What if she actually suspected Casey of dosing her dogs????? What if Casey was trying it out on the dogs first?

 

[Sabrina2011]

Judge Alex (one of my all time favorites) was on the News.. he said in his many years, parents get on the stand and lie all the time for their kids saying "he was with me the whole time" during the time some innocent person was killed.

It gives me hope she will still be found guilty. If its life without parole, thats fine, I don't see anyone here demanding she get the needle.. I'm fine with the jury's decision as long as she stays in the slammer

 

[suzihawk]

I have to say... if it meant the death penalty, I just might. I would want him punished, but death is something much different!

I really respect your honesty and would never judge you for your opinion.

But I'd just like to jump off your post to say that indeed, death IS different. Just ask Caylee Marie.

Oh wait...

 

[Linda7NJ]

I voted I don't know but after thinking about it I got to say that yes I probably would. I would do anything to save my child's life. Going to jail for life and getting the death penalty are two completely different things. Even if this was my grandchild, I would be furious with my child and I would never forgive them but I wouldn't want them put to death. I just asked my husband and he said the same thing.

My Mom said something the other day that really made sense to me...she said that she doesn't understand why everyone kept saying this family is dysfunctional because they didn't or don’t want to believe their daughter could do this, she said she would say they were more dysfunctional if they were absolutely sure that she killed her and they weren’t trying to help her.

:fence:

BBM So true

 

[Jack]

If I thought my child was being railroaded I still wouldn't lie, but might hold back on telling some things that led up to the incident, such as arguments or suspicions that wouldn't prove anything but make it look worse. If I thought my child was a monster psychopath I would tell it all and would rather that they get the death penalty for protection from other inmates and just let appeals and God take over. Cindy isn't telling it all IMO. Why would she be so concerned about what could be causing an overly tired sleepy dog AND things that could affect Caylee all at the same time. The dog wasn't sick, it was "extremely" tired and sleepy. What was going on and suspected in March....

So you're wondering if someone wasn't experimenting with chloroform too...