Wow! Thank God for Richard Grund & Thank God LP Told on the Anthony's!!

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  • #21
It doesn't make much sense to me how anyone could think that they could frame Jesse for the murder. Casey would have to be the one to say that he did something since she was the last person with Caylee. The Anthony's can't do anything that the attorneys won't go along with during the trial.
 
  • #22
Have you listened to GA's latest comment? Are you kidding me!!! GA needs to go over his transcripts and Grand jury statements once again. This is why GA attempted suicde, he NEW in his heart his daughter killed his grandchild Caylee. Look at his current words describing his daughter. It appears by GA's words he isn't accepting his reality. and isn't going to be able to make it all the way to trial without another depressive episode. Look how this has snowballed since his words with RG. LP can poke any of those yahoo's in the immediate family and those circling the wagon to be around them. I hope LP and anyone else will continue to chip away at the A's facade till they can realize and accept the truth.

How do we know what GA testified to? Was something released I didn't see? For all we know he spewed the same rediculous lies to the Grand Jury that he's spewed to everyone else.
 
  • #23
I think most intelligent people who are interested in this case know JG was polygraphed and cleared of any involvement in Caylee's disappearance and death months and months ago. JG has always been believable. His story has not deviated. He has been truthful.

There will always be conspiracy theorists who will come up with alternative theories in any notorious case and insist they know the "truth." This is nothing new. It happened in the Jack the Ripper case, the Jon Benet Ramsay case, the Lizzie Borden case, the Lindberg case, Marilyn Monroe's death and even JFK's assassination. I am sorry that JG has been impacted by these nuts (and that's what they are) and I hope JG and his family can take comfort in knowing that intelligent people don't believe one word these bloggers have to say.
 
  • #24
You know Cindy and George could stop all this with a few words, they could make a statement in which they say that Jesse and all the other friends, associates of Casey are innocent. If they had any integrity this is what they would do. I know, they aren't about to start showing integrity and character now, I guess this is what normal people would do. It's really pathetic that they have furthered these lies about Jesse and the others only to try to take blame off of their daughter.
 
  • #25
I always thought Casey told them to stay away from Jesse because he had talked with her recently. Out of all of her old friends, he was the only one I knew of that she had called during the time she murdered her daughter and July 16. So, telling her mom to stay away from him, to keep her them from comparing notes...and it snowballed from there. I had no idea they were actively trying to frame this poor kid!

This is what I always thought too that she was trying to keep the A's and Jesse separated so they wouldn't compare notes. I now think that the start of the "Jesse did it" scheme came into play very early on. I remember Cindy asking Casey in a very early jail house video who she could trust and named all of Casey's friends. In doing so, she gave Casey choices as to who would be the best candidate to pin it on. I remember Casey telling Cindy that she didn't trust Jesse and they should keep away from him. I also remember Lee going through a similar list of Casey's friends (although in a very covert way) and asking also who could be trusted. I guess Jesse was elected by unanimous consent of all the the A's to be the "patsy".
 
  • #26
And as Richard said in his latest interview, with LE, Cindy and George KNEW Jesse was not Caylee's father before he took a paternity test, and they were ok with letting him continue as her father even though they knew otherwise. Similar behavior shows now in that they would willingly allow anyone to take the blame for Caylee's murder, anyone, as long as their daughter was in the clear.
 
  • #27
You know Cindy and George could stop all this with a few words, they could make a statement in which they say that Jesse and all the other friends, associates of Casey are innocent. If they had any integrity this is what they would do. I know, they aren't about to start showing integrity and character now, I guess this is what normal people would do. It's really pathetic that they have furthered these lies about Jesse and the others only to try to take blame off of their daughter.

And wasn't Jan. 23, the "suicide" note, where George talks about buying a gun (supposedly) and teaching her friends a lesson. But, I never believed the suicide attempt was anything more than more smoke and mirrors, so, I see things from that angle.
Assuming Jesse is who he is referring to, they will never back off of this.
 
  • #28
This is what I always thought too that she was trying to keep the A's and Jesse separated so they wouldn't compare notes. I now think that the start of the "Jesse did it" scheme came into play very early on. I remember Cindy asking Casey in a very early jail house video who she could trust and named all of Casey's friends. In doing so, she gave Casey choices as to who would be the best candidate to pin it on. I remember Casey telling Cindy that she didn't trust Jesse and they should keep away from him. I also remember Lee going through a similar list of Casey's friends (although in a very covert way) and asking also who could be trusted. I guess Jesse was elected by unanimous consent of all the the A's to be the "patsy".


And, do not forget, AD, also, stated she didn't trust JG .......... based on ......... his asking her why she & KC was no longer friends - that's it! WTF?

Thank goodness, these types of people are not "the norm!"

Jeez!!!
 
  • #29
It makes me mad every time I hear George Anthony ask people to send money and letters to Casey. Any one with any brains would disregard his pleas. I can't believe that people want to send her anything...especially money. I figure her parents can put money into her account. She got herself where she is and no one should help her with anything...even writing her a two line note. What do people say when they write..."I'm so sorry that you murdered your baby girl and hope you aren't convicted!!!!!" What do you say to a killer :furious: I just think that George has the nerve to ask people to write to his worthless daughter. It just shows me where his head is and it isn't thinking thoughts of little Caylee. It's trying to still take care of Casey. He knows what Casey did. How could he even want her to be set free and go back home? I guess him and Cindy liked the way Casey kept their home in turmoil all of the time. It is probably an addiction by now. That and enabling their wonderful :rolleyes: daughter.

What is it that George is saying now? Someone mentioned it and I'm not sure I know what that is.
 
  • #30
And wasn't Jan. 23, the "suicide" note, where George talks about buying a gun (supposedly) and teaching her friends a lesson. But, I never believed the suicide attempt was anything more than more smoke and mirrors, so, I see things from that angle.
Assuming Jesse is who he is referring to, they will never back off of this.

I totally agree LancelotLink! Smoke and Mirrors is all it was IMO. People who truly want to commit suicide don't write about things they want to do in the future (cause they won't be able to - they'll be dead)! George allegedly wrote about wanting to buy guns to teach KC's friends a lesson. Nope...doesn't sound like someone who wanted to off themselves. JMHO.
 
  • #31
And wasn't Jan. 23, the "suicide" note, where George talks about buying a gun (supposedly) and teaching her friends a lesson. But, I never believed the suicide attempt was anything more than more smoke and mirrors, so, I see things from that angle.
Assuming Jesse is who he is referring to, they will never back off of this.

Yes - Houdini, now ya see it, now ya don't!

Oh, we see IT, alright, George!!!!!!
 
  • #32
And, do not forget, AD, also, stated she didn't trust JG .......... based on ......... his asking her why she & KC was no longer friends - that's it! WTF?

Thank goodness, these types of people are not "the norm!"

Jeez!!!

A really off the wall statement by AD. I'm wondering what was the real reason for AD going over to the house twice and one time spending the night there. IMO it had to be mutually beneficial to AD and KC.
 
  • #33
It makes me mad every time I hear George Anthony ask people to send money and letters to Casey. Any one with any brains would disregard his pleas. I can't believe that people want to send her anything...especially money. I figure her parents can put money into her account. She got herself where she is and no one should help her with anything...even writing her a two line note. What do people say when they write..."I'm so sorry that you murdered your baby girl and hope you aren't convicted!!!!!" What do you say to a killer :furious: I just think that George has the nerve to ask people to write to his worthless daughter. It just shows me where his head is and it isn't thinking thoughts of little Caylee. It's trying to still take care of Casey. He knows what Casey did. How could he even want her to be set free and go back home? I guess him and Cindy liked the way Casey kept their home in turmoil all of the time. It is probably an addiction by now. That and enabling their wonderful :rolleyes: daughter.

What is it that George is saying now? Someone mentioned it and I'm not sure I know what that is.

I know I saw a video a couple of days ago where GA was saying Casey is a great daughter, great mother, great person. Paraphraising.
 
  • #34
A really off the wall statement by AD. I'm wondering what was the real reason for AD going over to the house twice and one time spending the night there. IMO it had to be mutually beneficial to AD and KC.

And Cindy slept with them both in Casey's room, on an air mattress.
Wish I could have heard that little pow wow.
 
  • #35
It makes me mad every time I hear George Anthony ask people to send money and letters to Casey. Any one with any brains would disregard his pleas. I can't believe that people want to send her anything...especially money. I figure her parents can put money into her account. She got herself where she is and no one should help her with anything...even writing her a two line note. What do people say when they write..."I'm so sorry that you murdered your baby girl and hope you aren't convicted!!!!!" What do you say to a killer :furious: I just think that George has the nerve to ask people to write to his worthless daughter. It just shows me where his head is and it isn't thinking thoughts of little Caylee. It's trying to still take care of Casey. He knows what Casey did. How could he even want her to be set free and go back home? I guess him and Cindy liked the way Casey kept their home in turmoil all of the time. It is probably an addiction by now. That and enabling their wonderful :rolleyes: daughter.

What is it that George is saying now? Someone mentioned it and I'm not sure I know what that is.

:clap::clap:

I'm not so sure any of them are "trying to take care of Casey." IMO, these people are sooo self-centered, they believe KC's actions reflect on them - whether positive (ha!), or negative, therefore, they, in their ridiculous statements of "standing by their daughter," are only attempting to protect themselves - in their warped minds.

ALL of them are only motivated by THEIR selfish desire to appear normal, whole, okay ..... no one else really enters the picture, imo, including sweet angel Caylee.
 
  • #36
A really off the wall statement by AD. I'm wondering what was the real reason for AD going over to the house twice and one time spending the night there. IMO it had to be mutually beneficial to AD and KC.

I totally agree!
 
  • #37
And Cindy slept with them both in Casey's room, on an air mattress.
Wish I could have heard that little pow wow.

Me too. Oh to be a fly on the wall. I can just see them all hunkered down, whispering in each other's ears, writing notes and then tearing them up and swallowing them.
 
  • #38
It makes me mad every time I hear George Anthony ask people to send money and letters to Casey. Any one with any brains would disregard his pleas. I can't believe that people want to send her anything...especially money. I figure her parents can put money into her account. She got herself where she is and no one should help her with anything...even writing her a two line note. What do people say when they write..."I'm so sorry that you murdered your baby girl and hope you aren't convicted!!!!!" What do you say to a killer :furious: I just think that George has the nerve to ask people to write to his worthless daughter. It just shows me where his head is and it isn't thinking thoughts of little Caylee. It's trying to still take care of Casey. He knows what Casey did. How could he even want her to be set free and go back home? I guess him and Cindy liked the way Casey kept their home in turmoil all of the time. It is probably an addiction by now. That and enabling their wonderful :rolleyes: daughter.

What is it that George is saying now? Someone mentioned it and I'm not sure I know what that is.

If she gets set free and goes home they both better sleep with one eye open. Anyone who could kill a child is capable of anything.

Shirley's statement, "Casey hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee" should have Cindy shaking her boots at the thought of sleeping in the same house as that monster.
 
  • #39
The A's are throwing JG under the bus and it is all coming out now.


There has been speculation about Jesse for a while now it seems:

Huffington Post (worst paper ever IMO):
Jesse Grund: Caylee Anthony's Killer?
December 22, 2008

"...Another possible culprit, however, is Casey's ex-fiance Jesse Grund. Whether Grund will be investigated himself or simply used in Casey's defense to create reasonable doubt in the mind of the jury has yet to be seen."

Also makes reference to the big fight and choking incidence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/22/jesse-grund-caylee-anthon_n_152818.html

Seems like a really nice guy and I'm sure this whole thing will be laughed out of court. As mentioned above, I believe he did take and pass a lie detector test...plus, if we are looking for the true liar here...didn't KC convince him he was Caylee's dad for quite a while? I think this line will backfire on Casey...just show her in even a worse light than she's already in.
 
  • #40
:clap::clap:

I'm not so sure any of them are "trying to take care of Casey." IMO, these people are sooo self-centered, they believe KC's actions reflect on them - whether positive (ha!), or negative, therefore, they, in their ridiculous statements of "standing by their daughter," are only attempting to protect themselves - in their warped minds.

ALL of them are only motivated by THEIR selfish desire to appear normal, whole, okay ..... no one else really enters the picture, imo, including sweet angel Caylee.
You have it right on the money. In the FBI Interview the agent tells George how delusional Cindy's perceptions of KC are, that she thought she had a deep desire to present herself (Cindy) as having been a good mother. Did anyone notice that?

I have thought a lot about why they are protecting her and it really has very little to do KC. Cindy even admitted to Yuri she couldn't care less what happens to KC and George admitted in his interview, "I know my daughter is going away for a long time", what they are clinging to is how people perceive them as to be bad people/bad parents who created a monster. It is no wonder why she has a moral compass that is thrown way off into the ditch! This is a classic reaction of a parent of an accused murderer, no not my child, I raised them right! Denial meets narcissist:
check it out:

Definition

Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with one's self.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors

The cause of this disorder is unknown. Narcissistic personality disorder usually begins by early adulthood and is marked by disregard for the feelings of others, grandiosity, obsessive self-interest, and the pursuit of primarily selfish goals.
Symptoms

A person with narcissistic personality disorder:

* Reacts to criticism with feelings or rage, shame, or humiliation
* Takes advantage of others to achieve own goals
* Has feelings of self-importance
* Exaggerates achievements and talents
* Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
* Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
* Requires constant attention and admiration
* Lacks empathy

Signs and tests

Personality disorders are diagnosed based on a psychological evaluation and the history and severity of the symptoms.
Treatment

Psychotherapy may help the affected person relate to others in a more positive and compassionate manner.
Expectations (prognosis)

The outcome varies with the severity of the disorder.
Complications

* Relationship and family problems
* Alcohol or other drug dependence


Is this the entire family, can I get a witness? Julia
(The World According to Julia)
 
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