Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[K_Z]

REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION NO. 49
All phone records, including calls sent and received, voicemails, and text messages from
any phones utilized by Adam Shacknai, including but not limited to all phones owned by him
between July 11, 2011 and July 13, 1011.

REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION NO. 50
All phone records, including calls sent and received voicemails, and text messages from
any phones utilized by Jonah Shacknai, including but not limited to all phones owned by him, between July 11, 2011 and July 13, 1011.

BBM. (Obvious typos notwithstanding....maybe someone needs to sharpen their vigorous blue pencil again and start editing....)

This is from the Responses to the Request For Production of Documents Set Two:

https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face..._for_Production_of_Document_1432176274187.pdf

So, this request for phone records is FROM Dina and her attorney, TO the Plaintiffs.

Why exactly is it the responsibility of the Plaintiffs to provide phone records of one of the defendants, TO another of the defendants??

That just sounds beyond absurd to me. As absurd as it would be for DINA to ask the Plaintiffs to provide her with her OWN phone records, lol! Why exactly is it that Dina and her attorney feel it is appropriate in any way for them to try to compel a co-defendant's phone records?

And as far as Jonah's phone records, isn't that more appropriately handled by serving him and his phone carrier with a subpoena?

How is it that Dina and her attorneys suspect that the Plaintiffs even HAVE these records??

This whole line of thought just seems beyond absurd to me. If Dina wants Adam's phone records, she and her attorney should just call up Adam and his attorney and ASK for them. And if they say "no", then subpoena them. I don't understand at all why the plaintiffs are even being asked to do this.

Maybe I'll copy this over to the legal questions thread.

ETA: I'm unable to edit and insert a comma between "Adam" and "Jonah" in the header box. Only Adam is a defendant.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Yes, KittyChi, you are mistaken about the Patch breaking the news on Rebecca's shoplifing arrest.

Here is the VERY first article that came out about Rebecca's shoplifing $1000 worth of jewerly at the age of 30 right before she began dating Jonah Shacknai.

RadarOnline broke the story - not the Coronado Patch. The story was posted on Jul 19, 2011 @ 11:15AM

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/rebecca-nalepa-mug-shot-san-diego-bizarre-hanging-death/

Notice the link says "exclusive". That means that RadarOnline is breaking the story.

And the very first paragraph of the news article says:

The woman at the center of bizarre death sequence that has baffled police was herself once on the wrong side of the law, RadarOnline.com can reveal.

 

[K_Z]

And equally puzzling, IMO, is that Dina and her attorneys don't seem to want NINA's phone records from the plaintiffs, lol! A request for NINA's phone records is conspicuously absent.

https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face..._for_Production_of_Document_1432176274187.pdf

And Nina's phone is the one with the inexplicably wrong (off by one hour) time stamp on her text to Rebecca the night Rebecca died, as I recall. That has never been explained.

 

[K_Z]

You are incorrect.

Here is the VERY first article that came out about Rebecca's shoplifing $1000 worth of jewerly at the age of 30 right before she began dating Jonah Shacknai.

RadarOnline broke the story - not the Coronado Patch. The story was posted on Jul 19, 2011 @ 11:15AM

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/rebecca-nalepa-mug-shot-san-diego-bizarre-hanging-death/

Notice the link says "exclusive". That means that RadarOnline is breaking the story. And the very first paragraph says:

The woman at the center of bizarre death sequence that has baffled police was herself once on the wrong side of the law, RadarOnline.com can reveal.

Ok. But none of this has anything at all to do with the wrongful death lawsuit naming Dina, Adam, and Nina as defendants.

Shall we dredge up Dina's police history of domestic violence again, or her "difficulties" with the AZ Board of Psychologist Examiners? Or her suspicious inability to answer the door to police for hours and hours on the day of Max's accident? Or her defaulting on a rental payment? Or the evidence of her history of substance abuse, going back to her marriage to Jonah? Because if the goal here is just to smear, there is plenty that can be dredged up. Without even resorting to making up rumors. I think we should all stay on topic.

 

[screecher]

You know, I still think Adam will offer up a settlement to the Zahaus, I believe wholeheartedly Jonah will encourage this, the reasons being, he wants nothing, nada, zilch to do with DINA. They have absolutely no ties anymore, none. And Jonah will finally be rid of DINA.

And it wouldn't surprise me if NINA offers up a settlement to the Zahaus. I'm sure she doesn't want to be riding the crazy train that DINA is driving.

JMO.

 

[justice be served]

KittyChi, you are incorrect on all counts, IMO.

The Patch picked it up from Radar.com, who was the first to report it. They are a "scandal rag" an are notorious for prining sensational stories.

The Editor of the Patch at that time, was and is one of the Zahau followers, IMO. That is evident by the stories she printed and the vile comments she allowed about a grieving family.

It is extremely unlikely she would have posted somethng Dina or someone on Dina's behest asked her to - without also printing it was from Dina - or someone connected to Dina.

In fact, I believe I have the Radar Online article, touting its Exclusive story about Rebecca's shoplifting $1000 worth of jewerly - at the age of 30 - just before she began dating Jonah Shacknai - and babysitting Max Shacknai.

I will look for the article and post it to prove you are mistaken.

BBM. The editor of the Patch is one of Zahau followers? And the bicycling family are also connected to the Zahaus? Has it ever occurred to you that those of us that you may choose to call "followers" simply believe that the investigation into Rebecca's death was not properly investigated and THAT MAKES US FOLLOWERS??? If I may speak for the others, we have "followed" what has been reported in this case and we've made our own DECISIONS that a true injustice has taken place here and we're simply wanting to have an UNBIASED investigation, thorough and untainted?

Heck, I for one, had my ear bent by second hand information about how terrible Rebecca was when I first got involved. Well, that ear-bending came indirectly from Dina and her friends and I made up my own mind that Rebecca didn't commit suicide. That she was murdered by one, two, three and (indirectly, a fourth) IMO.

So stop with the "well they're connected or they wouldn't be on the Zahau side", because it doesn't take much to realize that something is really off here. Rebecca was murdered and I applaud the Zahaus for their energy to find the perpetrators of her death. And I do believe they will be victorious.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Ok. But none of this has anything at all to do with the wrongful death lawsuit naming Dina, Adam, and Nina as defendants.

Shall we dredge up Dina's police history of domestic violence again, or her "difficulties" with the AZ Board of Psychologist Examiners? Or her suspicious inability to answer the door to police for hours and hours on the day of Max's accident? Or her defaulting on a rental payment? Or the evidence of her history of substance abuse, going back to her marriage to Jonah? Because if the goal here is just to smear, there is plenty that can be dredged up. Without even resorting to making up rumors. I think we should all stay on topic.

You mean Dina's alleged history of domestic violence? You mean hings that Jonah said during their breakup? You mean the incidents that the police didn't find serious enough to arrest her for?

I don't know of any "difficulties" with the AZ Board of Psychiatric Examiners, AND that has nothing at all to do with this case. Do you have a link to prove your allegations?

The day of Max's "accident", Dina was sick - and sleeping - with a bronchial infection, with her phone turned OFF. She booted up her phone, saw the messages, and then Jonah called on the land line. This is documented in the article in Phoenix Magazine. Nothing mysterious about that.

Again, there is nothing to show she defaulted on a rental payment - just that the landlord tried to sue her. And it looks like the case was dropped. If you have a link to prove otherwise, please provide.

There is NO evidence of substance or alcohol abuse. None. Only an accusation by Jonah that she ONE NIGHT took prescription drugs and drank wine. Big whoop. That is just another nasty rumor spread by the Zahau followers. Link to prove me wrong?

 

[K_Z]

You know, I still think Adam will offer up a settlement to the Zahaus, I believe wholeheartedly Jonah will encourage this, the reasons being, he wants nothing, nada, zilch to do with DINA. They have absolutely no ties anymore, none. And Jonah will finally be rid of DINA.

And it wouldn't surprise me if NINA offers up a settlement to the Zahaus. I'm sure she doesn't want to be riding the crazy train that DINA is driving.

JMO.

Screecher, I agree. I think Jonah would probably rather pay out the Zahaus in a settlement gift on behalf of his brother, than to give one more penny to Dina.

I think Adam, with Jonah's support, will be the first to try to settle this and make it all go away.

Dina's WDS against Jonah is pretty likely to be dismissed by the end of June, IMO-- the Judge really strongly chastised Dina and her attorneys-- geesh, I've never read anything that direct from a Judge-- and indicated his willingness to promptly dismiss that case unless a whole lot of things are changed pretty quickly.

All of these lawsuits are almost over. And that's a good thing, IMO. The end is in sight.

 

[justice be served]

I don't know of any "difficulties" with the AZ Board of Psychiatric Examiners, AND that has nothing at all to do with this case. Do you have a link to prove your allegations?

The day of Max's "accident", Dina was sick - and sleeping - with a bronchial infection, with her phone turned OFF. She booted up her phone, saw the messages, and then Jonah called on the land line. This is documented in the article in Phoenix Magazine. Nothing mysterious about that.

Again, there is nothing to show she defaulted on a rental payment - just that the landlord tried to sue her. And it looks like the case was dropped. If you have a link to prove otherwise, please provide.

There is NO evidence of substance or alcohol abuse. None. Only an accusation by Jonah that she ONE NIGHT took prescription drugs and drank wine. Big whoop. That is just another nasty rumor spread by the Zahau followers. Link to prove me wrong?

BBM. Ya, subpoena her friends...........or former friends.

 

[K_Z]

I don't know of any "difficulties" with the AZ Board of Psychiatric Examiners, AND that has nothing at all to do with this case. Do you have a link to prove your allegations?

The day of Max's "accident", Dina was sick - and sleeping - with a bronchial infection, with her phone turned OFF. She booted up her phone, saw the messages, and then Jonah called on the land line. This is documented in the article in Phoenix Magazine. Nothing mysterious about that.

Again, there is nothing to show she defaulted on a rental payment - just that the landlord tried to sue her. And it looks like the case was dropped. If you have a link to prove otherwise, please provide.

There is NO evidence of substance or alcohol abuse. None. Only an accusation by Jonah that she ONE NIGHT took prescription drugs and drank wine. Big whoop. That is just another nasty rumor spread by the Zahau followers. Link to prove me wrong?

Sure, I'm able to provide not only links, but copies of some of the documents. But I'm not going to do that here right now, because the whole point is that it's not on topic.

 

[Waitaminute]

yeah? well its been proven max died from an accident too.

You know Dina and her friends? Then why aren't you an insider?

And yes, the Editor of the Patch at that time was part of the Zahau "followers with pitchforks". Thank goodness the Patch replaced her.

And no, Rebecca was not murdered. That has been proved. It is a FACT that her death was ruled a suicide - so her followers are in denial.

 

[K_Z]

Uh huh. IMO, you have proof, you post it. Funny, it is fine if the discussion is off topic as long as it involves bashing Dina Shacknai.

But if I post the proof, then I'll be accused of bashing Dina Shacknai. So, I'm showing some restraint to keep the conversation on topic.

I'd like to respectfully ask you if you could consider showing the same restraint on the bashing of Rebecca, so we can all have a more productive conversation about the wrongful death lawsuit progress. Deal?

 

[screecher]

Screecher, I agree. I think Jonah would probably rather pay out the Zahaus in a settlement gift on behalf of his brother, than to give one more penny to Dina.

I think Adam, with Jonah's support, will be the first to try to settle this and make it all go away.

Dina's WDS against Jonah is pretty likely to be dismissed by the end of June, IMO-- the Judge really strongly chastised Dina and her attorneys-- geesh, I've never read anything that direct from a Judge-- and indicated his willingness to promptly dismiss that case unless a whole lot of things are changed pretty quickly.

All of these lawsuits are almost over. And that's a good thing, IMO. The end is in sight.

BBM

I concurr. I see the WDS she brought against Jonah being dismissed soon. She has nothing. Hence her asking for his phone records, in the Zahau WDS no less. How ridiculous is that. She will never see another penny from Jonah, as you stated, Jonah would rather gift a settlement to the Zahaus.

For crying out loud, her lawyers are withdrawing their services and want nothing to do with her and her craziness. I believe her few 'friends' and 'supporters' are doing the same.

DINA is driven by her anger and hatred. And no one sane, wants to be apart of that. She also is seeing her free ride ending. If anyone thinks we've seen the worst of DINA, well, I think the worst is yet to come. She is the essence of rage and hatred. Very scary.

JMHO.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

BBM

I concurr. I see the WDS she brought against Jonah being dismissed soon. She has nothing. Hence her asking for his phone records, in the Zahau WDS no less. How ridiculous is that. She will never see another penny from Jonah, as you stated, Jonah would rather gift a settlement to the Zahaus.

For crying out loud, her lawyers are withdrawing their services and want nothing to do with her and her craziness. I believe her few 'friends' and 'supporters' are doing the same.

DINA is driven by her anger and hatred. And no one sane, wants to be apart of that. She also is seeing her free ride ending. If anyone thinks we've seen the worst of DINA, well, I think the worst is yet to come. She is the essence of rage and hatred. Very scary.

JMHO.

Dina's current lawyers are still with her. They have been on the case from day one. And very esteemed lawyers at that. Do you have a link that shows Dinas current lawyer, Kim Shumann is leaving her? I highly doubt that he is, seeing as he just filed papers with the court on May 5th.

Also, do you have a link that Dina is driven by her anger and hatred? And that she is the essence of rage and hatred? You stated that as fact, so a link to prove that would be very appreciated, because, from what I understand, she is a lovely person with many, many friends.

IMO, Jonah will never "gift a settlement for Adam". Adam is Jonah's brother, and the Zahaus accused Adam of heinous crimes. All untrue. Jonah is no fool. IMO, he knows the Zahaus hoped he would pay them off. He would NEVER pay them off - from everything I know about him. And Adan would never let him - from what I know about him.

But the Zahaus can keep dreaming.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

BBM. Ya, subpoena her friends...........or former friends.

Sorry, but that is not a link.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

You know Dina and her friends? Then why aren't you an insider?

Snipped for focus

I believe the poster said it came indirectly from Dana and her friends which doesn't require insider verification on Websleuths as far as I am aware.

 

[justice be served]

[QUOTE/] [/QUOTE]Also, do you have a link that Dina is driven by her anger and hatred? And that she is the essence of rage and hatred? You stated that as fact, so a link to prove that would be very appreciated, because, from what I understand, she is a lovely person with many, many friends.[/QUOTE]

Lovely? This indicates uncontrolled rage frankly. And choking? That indicates prior behavior similar to this crime IMO.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/18/death-of-shacknai-boy-sparks-investigation/

Shacknai and his former wife, Dina, leveled claims and counterclaims of physical violence and verbal abuse against each other when they were divorcing in 2008 and 2009, according to reports from the Paradise Valley Police Department. He also went to police in 2007 about a dispute with her.

In the 2009 conflict, Dina Shacknai said that he elbowed her in the right breast and cursed at her as he tried to drive a car away from the house they had shared.

Jonah Shacknai told police that he did not hit her and that Dina tried to yank his car keys out of the ignition while repeatedly yelling, “You cannot leave me!”

The Paradise Valley police reports, which apparently led to no arrests or charges, paint a picture of a couple at bitter odds as they went through a protracted divorce.

In a 2008 incident, Jonah Shacknai told police that Dina attempted to choke him. The family German Shepherd was so agitated by the conflict that it bit her.

According to the police report, Dina told an officer that her husband had never physically struck her, but that the dog had a history of biting her in the midst of their arguments.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Lovely? This indicates uncontrolled rage frankly. And choking? That indicates prior behavior similar to this crime IMO.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/18/death-of-shacknai-boy-sparks-investigation/

As the article says, "claims and counteclaims" in the midst of a divorce. Dina and Jonah were each throwing accusations at each other during a big fight. Doesn't mean any of it was true.

In fact, neither Dina or Jonah was charged or arrested, so the police certainly didn't think Dina or Jonah was a danger.

If the police had REALLY thought Dina had chocked Jonah and had uncontrolled rage, they would have arrested her.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Otherwise known as hearsay I fully admit. No different than "I heard from someone" that is indicated often here on this forum.

Gotcha. No different from this, then:

from what I understand, she is a lovely person with many, many friends.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Gotcha. No different from this, then:

So looks like we are even steven.