Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[SweetT]

Actually, Dina will very much be on trial for murder and and will have to prove that she was where she said she was. It's a huge part of her defense. Gore said she was not seen on video.how easy it would be to make this all go away by producing those video tapes. Sorry, don't buy your claims. With all due respect.

Sorry I dont have any claims for you to buy!!

 

[screecher]

? Sorry that doesnt make sense to me. IF she has access then great..but she still has nothing to prove to anyone.

You stated she wouldn't have them, nor any access to them. I am wondering why you stated that.

We all know she and her lawyers have access to them.

 

[SweetT]

I guess we will see what happens but generally made up claims of people getting together to murder someone don't fly.

 

[SweetT]

You stated she wouldn't have them, nor any access to them. I am wondering why you stated that.

We all know she and her lawyers have access to them.

Her lawyers may have them not her. Maybe her attorneys have a plan. Or they just are not worried.

 

[screecher]

Well if they all have it then they don't need Dina to provide them with one.

Nope, she doesn't. I'm sure the Z Family and their lawyer has meticulously examined them all. However, as evidenced by her previous (media blitz) behavior, I very much doubt she would have a nanosecond of hesitation of setting up another media blitz proclaiming her innocence.

 

[SweetT]

I don't pretend to know what Dina will do, I do however think she is innocent of killing Rebecca. JMO

 

[screecher]

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I also want to point out that Dina is not on Trial for murder....

Wait. You do realize if the ex-Mrs. Jonah Shacknai won't/can't prove she was at Rady during the time in question, in all likelihood, this WDS will move forward to trial, right? TRIAL. FOR. THE. MURDER. OF. REBECCA.

 

[SweetT]

How can someone be on trial for murder when le says they committed suicide?

 

[LuckyLucy2]

All Dina has to do is provide proof (via the videos she claims exist) that she was sitting vigil at Max's side at the time RZ was killed. Pooof. Speculation over.

Sometimes one can't see the forest for the trees. That's one huge whopping Redwood sitting right in front of our eyes.

Law enforcement has had that information for 4 years, so the Zahaus have seen that. Dina is innocent in the eyes of the law and has been for 4 years. The Zahaus have no evidence to prove otherwise because Dina was never at the mansion that night.

 

[SophieRose]

The Zahaus and their lawyers are not stupid. If they had spotted Dina on the Rady tapes, then why would they continue the law suit?

There can only be one conclusion--that Dina is NOT on those tapes.

Show me the search warrant for the tapes INSIDE the hospital or even the garages. I have only seen that LE requested the tapes for all entrances to Rady. If DS was not leaving or entering the hospital that night, she will NOT be on those tapes. So did the Zs see her leaving or entering?

 

[screecher]

Show me the search warrant for the tapes INSIDE the hospital or even the garages. I have only seen that LE requested the tapes for all entrances to Rady. If DS was not leaving or entering the hospital that night, she will NOT be on those tapes. So did the Zs see her leaving or entering?

Don't know what the Z Family and their lawyer have seen, as they are not media .

But we do know for sure even Gore could not place DS IN the hospital during the time of question. HA!

AND, a witness will probably confirm DS was seen at the residence. NR has already confessed to being there too lol.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Honestly, this has more to do with wondering why she wouldn't want to avoid the time and money in lawyers this lawsuit will cost- not pleasing me. I would think she would care a great deal about easily clearing her name. She is NOT shy, private or quiet I regards to the media.

Dina was fully cooperative with LE, as was Adam and Nina. It is in the investigative files where she was during the time Rebecca committed suicide. She was with Max at Rady's and was never even considered a suspect by LE. They would have interviewed the nurses that were with her, as well, as checking video and cell phone triangulation.

Dina did clear herself with LE, and I doubt that she cares what perfect strangers on web boards think about her. Even if the Zahaus have the tapes, I think they still would have brought the WDS against Dina.

Remember, you can pretty much take anyone to court. Lawsuits are brought against people everyday that have no truth to them in hopes the other party will settle instead of pay the expense to fight the false claims. There is a great posting the Ask a Lawyer thread about this.

As AZ Lawyer has pointed out to us many times, Judge Bacal will not review any information on where any of the defendants were until the Summary Judgement phase. She has yet to see or hear any of the evidence of the case.

Mary Zahau already knows Dina has witnesses as to where she was. But once again, I think the Zahaus were counting on a settlement.

Dina does not have the tapes - they are included in the list of evidence that she will see laid out at the Sherriff's office. IMO, she will not be able to take them, but will. E able to view them there. I'm sure it is noted where she is seen entering Rady's on Tuesday evening and not leaving the building during the night.


Proof of Dina being at Rady's:

1. "The sheriff has determined that cell phone evidence and video cameras at the hospital confirmed that Jonah Shacknai was at the hospital standing vigil for Max the entire time when Rebecca Zahau’s suicide occurred. Video cameras at the hospital also showed Dina was there during that time period."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...bysitter*rebecca*zahau*s*death*no*murder.html

2. In the audio interview of Nina Romano, she states that Dina had nurses as witnesses and was also on surveillance footage.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15145788/sister?clienttype=printable

3. In Ann Rules "Two Strange Deaths in Coronado" (written with the input of Anne Bremner and Mary a Zahau), she states on page 214:

"The bicyclist must have been mistaken. Numerous witnesses place Dina in the hospital at Max's bedside throughout Tuesday night.

"She (Ann Rule) did not travel to Coronado or to Arizona, where Shacknai lives, to conduct her research, Rule said, but talked extensively with Zahau's loved ones, who believe she was killed. She also has a long*time friendship with Seattle attorney Anne Bremner, who is representing."

http://patch.com/california/coronado/celebrated*author*ann*rule*turns*her*attention*to*spraecafa
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4. From A Boy Interrupted, Phoenix Magazine, Aug. 2012

"Dina says she got the news at the hospital. Jonah was sobbing. he said, Rebecca's killed herself," Dina recalls. As Dina was leaving the hospital, a Coronado police detective paid her a visit. "Are you aware of what happened?" he asked.

The detective would have confirmed at that time with the nurses that Dina had been there all night, IMO.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...u*Spreckels*Mansion*2011*Death*303178091.html

5. However, regardless of our lack of complete information thus far, I could not comment on Mr. Greer's statement as I was with my son Maxie at Rady’s Hospital in Pediatric Intensive Care, praying for his recovery, and watching him fight for his life, trying to breathe on his own while on a ventilator.”

She adds:

“It would be impossible for me to hear any disturbances at Jonah's home as I was with our son alone at a hospital miles away. As well, my sister, Nina was with her son, and our close friend, none of whom heard a disturbance as they were five blocks from Jonah's house on Ocean Blvd.
My sister and I would again publicly like to extend, for the fourth time since 2012, our offer to share all of the information we have with the Zahau’s and ask that they reciprocate. Perhaps an exchange of accurate data could help both families find answers, healing, and resolution.”


Source:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Attorneys*New*Evidence*Rebecca*Zahau*Spreckels*M
ansion*2011*Death*303178091.html#ixzz3fL53Fpju

 

[justice be served]

I also want to point out that Dina is not on Trial for murder, Rebecca was determined to have committed suicide therefore honestly Dina has nothing to prove to anyone here no matter how much you feel she does.

A civil suit does indeed require that Dina testify and prove that she is not responsible for Rebecca's death/murder. Seems things are getting really off track here. That proof is the basis of the WDS suit. Come on people.

 

[justice be served]

Here's my take on things. Seems Dina's goose is just about ready to be cooked -finally - and her defense is, at this late hour, actively getting involved in this forum. Seems obvious by the suddenly more gracious tone and tenor of the postings and better late than never. But then I am more than skeptical after 4 years of observing this case. JMO of course.

 

[justice be served]

Thank You So Much For This LuckyLucy2,
I had never read that Dina wanted to share information with the Zahaus.

Oh pleeeeze

 

[Jessica2012]

Oh pleeeeze

I know you are trying to start something.
I'm going to "scroll and roll". Thank you for your wonderful contribution...that really helps the matter

 

[justice be served]

Law enforcement has had that information for 4 years, so the Zahaus have seen that. Dina is innocent in the eyes of the law and has been for 4 years. The Zahaus have no evidence to prove otherwise because Dina was never at the mansion that night.

O.J. was also innocent in the eyes of the law. He was then found guilty by an overwhelming majority in a WDS trial of murdering Nicole Simpson. This isn't new case law - it is real, based on our justice system and that is exactly what THIS WDS is about.

If Dina cannot prove where she was the night Rebecca died along with other circumstantial and factual evidence and testimony, Dina too will be found responsible for murdering Rebecca - no different than O.J. was along with other prior cases. That is exactly where I expect this is heading.

And Dina has been very vocal in rounding up her defense from almost day one - that Rebecca or her sister purposely murdered her son. That posturing will be her demise IMO.

 

[screecher]

O.J. was also innocent in the eyes of the law. He was then found guilty by an overwhelming majority in a WDS trial of murdering Nicole Simpson. This isn't new case law - it is real, based on our justice system and that is exactly what THIS WDS is about.

If Dina cannot prove where she was the night Rebecca died along with other circumstantial and factual evidence and testimony, Dina too will be found responsible for murdering Rebecca - no different than O.J. was along with other prior cases. That is exactly where I expect this is heading.

And Dina has been very vocal in rounding up her defense from almost day one - that Rebecca or her sister purposely murdered her son.

And no doubt she's banking the jurors will feel her actions are justified

 

[LuckyLucy2]

A civil suit does indeed require that Dina testify and prove that she is not responsible for Rebecca's death/murder. Seems things are getting really off track here. That proof is the basis of the WDS suit. Come on people.

Even in a Civil suit, a defendant is considered innocent until proven guilty. Dina has also been considered innocent by LE for four years. The case will never go to trial, but if it did, the Zahaus would have to prove that Dina, Nina, and Adam were in that room and on that balcony murdering Rebecca. And after four years, they still have no proof of that (because Rebecca committed suicide.).

This case will be dismissed in Feb. for lack of evidence.

JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

O.J. was also innocent in the eyes of the law. He was then found guilty by an overwhelming majority in a WDS trial of murdering Nicole Simpson. This isn't new case law - it is real, based on our justice system and that is exactly what THIS WDS is about.

If Dina cannot prove where she was the night Rebecca died along with other circumstantial and factual evidence and testimony, Dina too will be found responsible for murdering Rebecca - no different than O.J. was along with other prior cases. That is exactly where I expect this is heading.

And Dina has been very vocal in rounding up her defense from almost day one - that Rebecca or her sister purposely murdered her son. That posturing will be her demise IMO.

Boy do you have that backwards!

OJ was not innocent in the eyes of the law. He was arrested and prosecuted for the murders of Nicole and Ron Goldman. Law Enforcement got it right, the jury in the criminal trial did not.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/18/u...s-charged-chased-arrested.html?pagewanted=all


http://edition.cnn.com/US/OJ/daily/9510/10-03/

The Civil Trial jury did agree with Law Enforcement and with the physical evidence that proved he was the murderer and found OJ guilty.

It is not about Dina proving where she was. It is about the Zahaus having some "factual evidence" that proves she was in the room, helping to murder RZ. They have NONE at all. They don't even have any circumstantial evidence! What about some of Dina's hair? Skin cells? Butt impression from sitting on the bed? ANYTHING to place her in that room?

That is what the Judge will want to see. The Judge warned the Zahaus that they needed some real evidence for their eighth iteration of their complaint. They came up with NONE.

This case will never make it to trial. It will either be Dismissed due to not having a case (because the Zahaus have no evidence whatsoever), or it will be thrown out after a Summary Judgement, because LE proved it was a suicide due to the physical evidence, no one was in that room except RZ, and Dina and Nina have witnesses to where they were.

February will be here before we know it.

You are also off in stating that "Dina has been very vocal in rounding up her defense since day one". It took over a year for Dina to be able to function after the death of Max. Mary Zahau was making sure her name in the papers just 8 days after Rebecca's death, insinuating that she was murdered - when the investigation into RZ's death had just begun. I've never seen a family have such gall.

JMO