Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[bourne]

Document #154 on state ROA has been updated to allow viewing. (8 Pages)



https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...nd_Authorities_in_Oppositio_1430405752058.pdf

I'm thinking #151 is having some issues loading because of the size of the file-- 266 pages. Let's try again, and see if it opens this time.

https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...and_Supporting_Declarations_1430406080496.pdf

ETA: I'm having trouble opening document #151 from this link, as well. I'll see what I can do to make it available. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Hi KZ, is the second pdf listed here the same one as yesterday's second pdf or are there four different pdfs? I am unable to open this one either. (Was able to open both of the first pdfs of both your posts). TIA

 

[bourne]

So glad the big file opened for you, time!

Just another quick comment to say I'm glad "bicycle guy", now named as Jim Haager, WAS officially interviewed, and that interview (unknown if videotaped or only transcribed) is a part of discovery that was shared with both sides, and is in direct contradiction to defendant DS's statement that she was not at the mansion that evening. Document 154 on page one, line 87, begins discussion of that. JH is an important witness, IMO. He had no skin in the game, and no reason to slant what he saw, while his kids were looking at a dead critter in the street, no less.

WOW. This is another earth-shattering news! So Jim Haager IS the bicycle family eyewitness who directly saw DINA at the Spreckels mansion the night Rebecca was TORTURED and MURDERED. WOW. Just WOW.

So now we have:
a) No eyewitnesses stating Dina was "sitting vigil" at her son's deathbed in the hospital during the time period Rebecca was killed;
b) No video surveillance of Dina at the hospital during the time period Rebecca was killed; AND
c) a neutral, impartial, third-party eyewitness of the bicyclist, Jim Haager, who directly and clearly identified and saw DINA at the Spreckels mansion during the time period Rebecca was killed.

WOW. DOUBLE, TRIPLE WOW. I think we have a TRIFECTA smoking gun here!!!!!!!

I very doubt this case will at anytime be "dismissed" whether this Fri or whenever. I absolutely see a TRIAL coming real soon.

 

[*Lash*]

Bourne, looking at the entire URL, it appears the second document in each post is the same document we're having trouble with, doc #151. KZ can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[time]

Time, can you share what type of PC or program you used? I've tried a couple different systems. The file is over 60 MB. I understand if you would rather not. TIA

It's ok, pretty generic... a Mac and Comcast. Nothing all souped up or anything. Yesterday, it just kept turning and turning. It may also have to do with how many are trying to access it?

I just accessed it again, turns for a bit then loads.

 

[*Lash*]

It's ok, pretty generic... a Mac and Comcast. Nothing all souped up or anything. Yesterday, it just kept turning and turning. It may also have to do with how many are trying to access it?

I just accessed it again, turns for a bit then loads.

Thank you, Time! That helps

I think you may be right, considering the link is directing to the ROA website it may be about the size and number of requests to access the file. I don't think it can be uploaded on WS server because of the size limit. IIRC, 32MB is the limit. Yep, just confirmed. 32MB is the limit for PDF files.

 

[screecher]

WOW. This is another earth-shattering news! So Jim Haager IS the bicycle family eyewitness who directly saw DINA at the Spreckels mansion the night Rebecca was TORTURED and MURDERED. WOW. Just WOW.

So now we have:
a) No eyewitnesses stating Dina was "sitting vigil" at her son's deathbed in the hospital during the time period Rebecca was killed;
b) No video surveillance of Dina at the hospital during the time period Rebecca was killed; AND
c) a neutral, impartial, third-party eyewitness of the bicyclist, Jim Haager, who directly and clearly identified and saw DINA at the Spreckels mansion during the time period Rebecca was killed.

WOW. DOUBLE, TRIPLE WOW. I think we have a TRIFECTA smoking gun here!!!!!!!

I very doubt this case will at anytime be "dismissed" whether this Fri or whenever. I absolutely see a TRIAL coming real soon.

Hope Jim Haager has hired some body guards for his family and himself.
Yes !!! I hope the couple who heard screams, who then called the cops (not once, but twice IIRC), have been interviewed !

 

[time]

Thank you, Time! That helps

I think you may be right, considering the link is directing to the ROA website it may be about the size and number of requests to access the file. I don't think it can be uploaded on WS server because of the size limit. IIRC, 32MB is the limit. Yep, just confirmed. 32MB is the limit for PDF files.

Yeah, I don't think it can be uploaded to WS. I uploaded here though, see if it works!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByCmIHgaYIskRWQtSV9McTBUZUE/view

 

[*Lash*]

Yeah, I don't think it can be uploaded to WS. I uploaded here though, see if it works!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByCmIHgaYIskRWQtSV9McTBUZUE/view

:yourock: IT WORKED FOR ME! Muah, muah, thank you !!!!!

 

[time]

:yourock: IT WORKED FOR ME! Muah, muah, thank you !!!!!

Yay!!! :loveyou:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Me too, KZ

Document 150 mentions an interview on 7/22/13 of Jim Haagar with Billizzi & Associates. A quick search I found a Bellizzi & Associates Private Investigation Services.

http://www.bellizzi-associates.com

So Jim Hager sees something on the night of July 10, YET doesn't report it July 22, and THEN he goes to a Private Detective instead of the SDSO, the law enforcement agency INVESTIGATING the case?

Yeah, sounds really credible. :laughing:

 

[bourne]

Hope Jim Haager has hired some body guards for his family and himself.
Yes !!! I hope the couple who heard screams, who then called the cops (not once, but twice IIRC), have been interviewed !

Me too Screecher! I hope Mr. Haager protects himself and his family because God knows what Dina's capable of when she's on a murderous rage.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I'm only on page 34 and it is CLEAR the Zahaus have NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to support the henious allegtions they accused these innocent people of.

When PUSH comes to SHOVE, and they have to produce WITNESSES and DOCUMENT SUPPORTING their allegations, THEY CAN"T DO IT.

 

[Frigga]

Lash, I agree. This thread is about the ZAHAU'S Wrongful Death Suit against her murderers, namely the accused are: Dina, Nina and Adam.

This thread is NOT about Dina per se, but we must discuss her insofar as she is the #1 PRIME SUSPECT in murdering Rebecca, and Dina's PATTERNS of BEHAVIORS (both past and present and ongoing) continue to point strongly at her as being the murderer. The three defendants in the Zahaus' WDS have been justifiably accused from what my understanding of the case in that all three -- Dina, Nina and Adam -- have all three elements crucial to convicting them of the crime: a) OPPORTUNITY, b) MEANS, and c) MOTIVE (although motive by no means needs to be present to convict an accused of murder).

I will reiterate that Dina has NO ALIBI, and SHE above all the other POIs, *LIED* to the authorities, to the public and to her friends that she did. Dina claimed to have "numerous eyewitnesses" who saw her sitting vigil at her one and only son Max's death bed in the hospital. Yet we recently discovered that she has ZERO eyewitnesses. ZERO. Not one or two, but ZERO. NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Not even half an eyewitness...Plus the fact that NO hospital surveillance videos captured Dina at all during the critical timeframe when Rebecca was murdered...

I believe there is NO REASON for Dina to have lied about such critical info unless she indeed was TORTURING & MURDERING Rebecca at the Spreckels mansion. Otherwise, WHY did Dina LIE while crying to the public and the authorities AND her friends that she was a grief-strickened mother holding the hand of her one and only son and "sitting vigil" at his bedside at the hospital??? Sorry, any way this plays out, Dina LIED and shamelessly did so and it is most evident that she did so to cover for murdering Rebecca and she did so while using her son as a pretext to garner support and sympathy, AND gain financial funds for herself by naming herself the "CEO" of a so-called nonprofit Maxie's House...That IS DESPICABLE, REVOLTING, DESPERATE, and PATHETIC.

We all have a right and I believe a duty to discuss the case in a *factual*, *evidence-based* manner, to point out Rebecca's alleged KILLERS (e.g., Dina, Nina and Adam) with reason and with the facts we have at hand (and also from what is coming out from the court cases as well as how Dina has presented herself in the media thus far), and to do so in a respectful, civil, diplomatic manner.

I have no idea why some poster continues to bash Mary Zahau when Mary is doing precisely what any one of us would want and hope our family members would do for us -- which is seek justice for us should we be so unfortunate as to be a hapless, innocent victim of an unjust, vicious, vile torture and murder.

Excellent post and the points you made are credible, factual and just plain common sense.

There is only one person of the three parties named in the suit that would truly, personally and violently want Rebecca dead and that is DINA- no way around it. Max was her baby... HER one and only baby boy and all she had left in the world attached to her wealthy, powerful ex husband... the one that couldn't leave her- if she said so- until he did.

Nina and Adam were along for the despicable, soulless, murdering ride... a sister and a brother who loved their sibling and nephew- what a shame.

There was only ONE mastermind here... but hopefully the plan doesn't work.

We shall see...

Praying for justice for Rebecca and Peace for Maxie, because on the other side- IMO- he now knows what his mother has done. I would care about that more than any God knowing.

 

[screecher]

hmmm, wonder if the judge for this case will urge Defendant Shacknai's lawyer to use his blue edit pencil liberally.:laugh:

Her lawyers are taking her for a ride...to the poor house! Gosh, poor Defendant Ms. Shacknai !

 

[LuckyLucy2]

So many people here and the Zahaus, have concocted a pure fantasy story around Dina Shacknai, Nina Romano, and Adam Shacknai. I really think some of you even believe it.

However, it is FANTASY, not TRUTH.

And the Zahau's inability to produce any REAL EVIDENCE to support EVEN ONE Of these claims PROVES THAT.

Part of me hopes it does keep going so the Judge can see that the Zahaus filed a claim...in TWO courts, mind you...that were TOTALLY DEVOID of any TRUTH. IMO, the Judge will not take kindly to that, and FINE THE ZAHAUS ACCORDINGLY.

 

[screecher]

Does anyone remember early on when it was stated there was 'loud music' coming from the mansion? Bettcha at least two of the three defendants were responsible for that happening too. Hmm. And bettcha it happened AFTER the screams.

 

[screecher]

So much cover-up/sweeping under the rug in this case. Shame on all who was responsible.

 

[K_Z]

So, I just have to "vent" a little bit. I'm no where near thru reading these new documents, but does ANYONE proof read them before filing them?? Good lord, for what billable hours are for an even middle of the road firm, I'd expect some intern or clerk to be given the task of proof reading. Greer's firm has more than a few errors in # 154, but the prize for the most egregious errors has to go to the Schumann and Rosenberg firm-- Dina's attorneys.

For heaven's sake, in document 150, they refer to the plaintiff Pari Zahau more than 3-4 times-- the entire document--using MALE pronouns. This is NOT the first time this has happened-- I dinstinctly remember this happening before, because I was incredulous that a man with the first name of "Kim" could be so oblivious to such an egregious error!

Imagine the faux-outrage and chest pounding that would occur if Defendant Dina Shacknai were continually referred to as "he, him" or "Mr." in official court motions! I do remember "Nino Romano" in one document-- that was bad enough.

Do they really NOT know Pari Zahau is a woman? Isn't it their job to KNOW who all of the Plaintiffs are??

I mean, that's like having your gender listed wrong in your medical records or something! Completely unacceptable. It's an embarrassment to the attorneys and their firms. :shame:

PROOF READ YOUR SLOPPY COPIES, ATTORNEYS!! That's what you're getting PAID for-- to attend to the DETAILS. :gaah:

<rant complete> We now return to our regularly scheduled programming on this thread. :facepalm:

 

[screecher]

:laugh: "Defeat Shacknai"

 

[K_Z]

Busy couple of days on the San Diego ROA website for this case! More reading homework for case watchers. Three additional entries today, # 155, 156, & 157.

157 04/30/2015 Tentative Ruling for Demurrer / Motion to Strike published.

156 04/30/2015 Reply to Opposition of Noticed Motion and Supporting Declarations filed by Shacknai, Dina. Shacknai, Dina (Defendant) Reply to Opposition of Noticed Motion and Supporting Declarations

155 04/24/2015 Notice of Withdrawal of Counsel filed by Shacknai, Dina. Shacknai, Dina (Defendant) Notice of Withdrawal of Counsel

** Daniel Benchoff and M.E. "Buddy" Rake have withdrawn as counsel, with the consent of Defendant Dina Shacknai. This is not a request by DS to add, or request to remove counsel. Counsel is initiating the withdrawal. That is curious indeed. DS remains represented by the Schumann/ Rosenberg firm.

#153
https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...otion_and_Supporting_Declar_1430441570121.pdf

#155
https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...ce_of_Withdrawal_of_Counsel_1430441570277.pdf

#156
https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...Noticed_Motion_and_Supporti_1430441570402.pdf

*#157 has no viewing/ purchase option yet.