Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

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  • #721
I think the Zahaus ought to ask for Dina's medical records and any and all police calls, reports and whatever else is in the air regarding her. The medical records would show if she has/is on any drugs for mental issues, police records may perhaps show she has a tendency to violence.
 
  • #722
Well, cripes, she had to know Jonah was a cheater, after all, he was cheating on Kim WITH DINA!!! What in the world did she expect?

My guess is that like many women think, Dina thought that she would "change" him.........
 
  • #723
Well, cripes, she had to know Jonah was a cheater, after all, he was cheating on Kim WITH DINA!!! What in the world did she expect?

This is just another one of the vicious rumors being spread about this victim who lost her little boy, IMO.

Kim and Jonah were divorced long before he and Dina met.

His first marriage to Kimberly James resulted in a divorce and a three-year custody battle between 1998 and 2001 involving the couple's two children from that marriage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Zahau

Dina and Jonah were married in 2002. And had only been dating about a year, IIRC.

Kim had been long gone by then.
 
  • #724
Dina has every right to defend herself from the false charges the Zahaus have brought upon her. All of these items are important to the case, or her highly accomplished attorneys would not have asked for them.

In my opinion, her lawyers are trying to show that Rebecca did many problems, and her thinking was not rational. IMO, even before Max's fall, Rebecca had many problems with Jonah's other two children. That is why the Attorney's are requesting all of her diaries, not just those around the time of her suicide.

IMO, her journals will show how much she hated Dina, and plotted against her at every turn. I bet she even talks about how she called Max, "her son" just to tick Dina off. Kim James and her children did not like Rebecca, and Max was scared of her. This has been reported. All of her journals are relevant. The journals will show how much Rebecca wanted Jonah to marry her - something that would never happen after Max was fatally injured on her watch.

I believe Dina attorneys want the Plaintiff's diaries, journals, etc, because they want to show that the Zahaus did indeed believe Rebecca committed suicide…that is, until Anne Bremner came along on July 19th. I believe those records will show that there was a deliberate effort on the part of the Zahaus and Anne Bremner to sway the public perception of the case, in an effort to squeeze money from the Shacknais.



Rebecca had no reason to get a restraining order against Dina. The police would have laughed at her. Just more victim bashing, IMO.

This is America, and the innocent (until proven guilty) are entitled to defend themselves in this county. Thank goodness! That means they get the information they need to do that. It is the Zahaus that are delaying the case at this point…by not giving Dina's Attorneys the information they are entitled to. It is in the court record - the delays are because of the Zahaus, not Dina.

I suggest you read the last page of the Lawyer thread. AZLAwyer has said that evidence has NOT come into the case yet - we are not that far along. The time for Dina to give her statements about that to the Judge are at the Summary Judgement hearing.



It Is Rebecca's fault that Max is dead. Whether accident, or not, it is and will always be Rebecca's fault.

This case has been solved by the SDSO, with help from the DOJ, the FBI, and the Border Patrol. It has been reviewed TWICE by the California Attorney General. In addition, Jonah Shacknai had his own detectives look into the deaths.

The Shacknai supporters are very much like those that defended Travis from Jodi's trolls and followers. Rebecca and Jodi's minions don't care what the TRUTH is, they just "feel" that they are in the right no matter what law enforcement and the facts of the case show.

When I saw Jodi's mother stand before the Judge - AFTER Jodi had been convicted of murder, and had two juries vote 11-1 to kill her - and Jodi's mother is STILL saying that Jodi was the victim, not Travis - I could only think of Mary Zahau and how wrong and disgusting her actions and words have been throughout this - all while proclaiming what a Christian she is. And Jodi's followers, like Rebecca's - spew the vilest and most heinous rumors and accusations - simply because they think she was pretty - or in Rebecca's case, they also hate the rich, or people of the Jewish faith. Disgusting, IMO.





In my very strong opinion, Dina's Attorneys would not be requesting these records unless they were very important to the case. After all, it is a VERY respected Law Firm. This is not their first court case. They are extremely competent lawyers. They would not request items just because Dina might want them. So there is SOMETHING in those documnts they want. What could that be? Not immigration status. Not at all.

IMO, the records will show any arrest records in Burma, Germany, or Austria. And that will show the reason Dina did not want little Max left alone with Rebecca and another Zahau family member. IMO, Rebecca, and other Zahau family members - had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries.

DOES Dina want/need that for the W.D.S. or the lawsuit w Jonah?
 
  • #725
This is just another one of the vicious rumors being spread about this victim who lost her little boy, IMO.

Kim and Jonah were divorced long before he and Dina met.

His first marriage to Kimberly James resulted in a divorce and a three-year custody battle between 1998 and 2001 involving the couple's two children from that marriage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Zahau

Dina and Jonah were married in 2002. And had only been dating about a year, IIRC.

Kim had been long gone by then.

I believe I recall that Dina was seeing Jonah "off the record" while he was still with Kim. I also recall she used a made up name so keep things under wraps. Does anyone have that history handy?
 
  • #726
<respectfully snipped>

I suggest you read the last page of the Lawyer thread. AZLAwyer has said that evidence has NOT come into the case yet - we are not that far along. The time for Dina to give her statements about that to the Judge are at the Summary Judgement hearing.

<respectfully snipped>

I know you guys are all aware that I don't want to play in the mud with you. :) But I did want to clarify a legal point: no one can present evidence for the first time at the Summary Judgment argument. They would need to file a written Motion for Summary Judgment, with their evidence attached. I think at this point we've determined that no one has filed any such motion yet. I don't know why the hearing was set--perhaps it will just be vacated if no one files an MSJ.
 
  • #727
I think the Zahaus ought to ask for Dina's medical records and any and all police calls, reports and whatever else is in the air regarding her. The medical records would show if she has/is on any drugs for mental issues, police records may perhaps show she has a tendency to violence.

Perhaps the Zahau family should start with the CrownView Medical Group in Coronado...........
 
  • #728
Is that the medical practice DINA used? Is there any in AZ she would use?

ETA: Ah. I see thats a mental health clinic. IMO, very good idea for Maxie's mother to be receiving mental health help.
 
  • #729
Perhaps the Zahau family should start with the CrownView Medical Group in Coronado...........

They might find that Rebecca had been seen there, too. IMO, Dina should check that out. Rebecca certainly had mental issues, in my very honest opinion. Just read her diary excerpts. The ones that Mary Zahau allowed us to read in Ann Rule's book. So dramantic, depressing, and self-involved. I can only imagine what the ones that Mary didn't allow her to use said!

If Rebecca didn't use the clinic, she should have. It may have prevented Max's horrific injuries and her suicide.
 
  • #730
Dina has every right to defend herself from the false charges the Zahaus have brought upon her. All of these items are important to the case, or her highly accomplished attorneys would not have asked for them.

In my opinion, her lawyers are trying to show that Rebecca did many problems, and her thinking was not rational. IMO, even before Max's fall, Rebecca had many problems with Jonah's other two children. That is why the Attorney's are requesting all of her diaries, not just those around the time of her suicide.

IMO, her journals will show how much she hated Dina, and plotted against her at every turn. I bet she even talks about how she called Max, "her son" just to tick Dina off. Kim James and her children did not like Rebecca, and Max was scared of her. This has been reported. All of her journals are relevant. The journals will show how much Rebecca wanted Jonah to marry her - something that would never happen after Max was fatally injured on her watch.

I believe Dina attorneys want the Plaintiff's diaries, journals, etc, because they want to show that the Zahaus did indeed believe Rebecca committed suicide&#8230;that is, until Anne Bremner came along on July 19th. I believe those records will show that there was a deliberate effort on the part of the Zahaus and Anne Bremner to sway the public perception of the case, in an effort to squeeze money from the Shacknais.



Rebecca had no reason to get a restraining order against Dina. The police would have laughed at her. Just more victim bashing, IMO.

This is America, and the innocent (until proven guilty) are entitled to defend themselves in this county. Thank goodness! That means they get the information they need to do that. It is the Zahaus that are delaying the case at this point&#8230;by not giving Dina's Attorneys the information they are entitled to. It is in the court record - the delays are because of the Zahaus, not Dina.

I suggest you read the last page of the Lawyer thread. AZLAwyer has said that evidence has NOT come into the case yet - we are not that far along. The time for Dina to give her statements about that to the Judge are at the Summary Judgement hearing.



It Is Rebecca's fault that Max is dead. Whether accident, or not, it is and will always be Rebecca's fault.

This case has been solved by the SDSO, with help from the DOJ, the FBI, and the Border Patrol. It has been reviewed TWICE by the California Attorney General. In addition, Jonah Shacknai had his own detectives look into the deaths.

The Shacknai supporters are very much like those that defended Travis from Jodi's trolls and followers. Rebecca and Jodi's minions don't care what the TRUTH is, they just "feel" that they are in the right no matter what law enforcement and the facts of the case show.

When I saw Jodi's mother stand before the Judge - AFTER Jodi had been convicted of murder, and had two juries vote 11-1 to kill her - and Jodi's mother is STILL saying that Jodi was the victim, not Travis - I could only think of Mary Zahau and how wrong and disgusting her actions and words have been throughout this - all while proclaiming what a Christian she is. And Jodi's followers, like Rebecca's - spew the vilest and most heinous rumors and accusations - simply because they think she was pretty - or in Rebecca's case, they also hate the rich, or people of the Jewish faith. Disgusting, IMO.





In my very strong opinion, Dina's Attorneys would not be requesting these records unless they were very important to the case. After all, it is a VERY respected Law Firm. This is not their first court case. They are extremely competent lawyers. They would not request items just because Dina might want them. So there is SOMETHING in those documnts they want. What could that be? Not immigration status. Not at all.

IMO, the records will show any arrest records in Burma, Germany, or Austria. And that will show the reason Dina did not want little Max left alone with Rebecca and another Zahau family member. IMO, Rebecca, and other Zahau family members - had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries.

BBM: Surely Dina's background check would have shown that "Rebecca and other Zahau family members had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries" and we know Dina would have made sure everyone knew about that. Just as Dina made Rebecca's shoplifting incident and mug shot public on Coronado Patch.

IOW, your stated opinion has no basis.
 
  • #731
Snipped, and my comments in blue.

I believe Dina attorneys want the Plaintiff's diaries, journals, etc, because they want to show that the Zahaus did indeed believe Rebecca committed suicide…that is, until Anne Bremner came along on July 19th. I believe those records will show that there was a deliberate effort on the part of the Zahaus and Anne Bremner to sway the public perception of the case, in an effort to squeeze money from the Shacknais.

What in the world does Anne Bremner have to do with anything now?? She hasn't been involved with any aspect of this case in years. Why the ongoing vendetta against an attorney that isn't even involved?

I suggest you read the last page of the Lawyer thread. AZLAwyer has said that evidence has NOT come into the case yet - we are not that far along. The time for Dina to give her statements about that to the Judge are at the Summary Judgement hearing.

AZlawyer has posted about this, and has said that the motion for summary judgement, and the evidence for it, has to be filed in advance of the summary judgement hearing.

In my very strong opinion, Dina's Attorneys would not be requesting these records unless they were very important to the case. After all, it is a VERY respected Law Firm. This is not their first court case. They are extremely competent lawyers. They would not request items just because Dina might want them. So there is SOMETHING in those documnts they want. What could that be? Not immigration status. Not at all.

IMO, the records will show any arrest records in Burma, Germany, or Austria. And that will show the reason Dina did not want little Max left alone with Rebecca and another Zahau family member. IMO, Rebecca, and other Zahau family members - had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries.

Then Dina's attorneys will have to file FOIA requests, clearly delineating how any potential international arrest records of the 5 named individuals specifically relates to defending Dina from allegations that she killed Rebecca Zahau. Any of those 5 individuals being involved in anything else, such as your baseless allegation/ fantasy that they were involved in a child's injury, could not possibly be related to defending Dina from allegations that she killed Rebecca. In fact, it only makes Dina look even more vindictive, and more guilty of stalking, harassing, and killing Rebecca, IMO.

Your idea that Dina supposedly didn't want Max left alone with Rebecca has exactly nothing at all to do with defending Dina from the allegations that she killed Rebecca.

I can't imagine how even the *priciest* of attorneys could try use the immigration records of a victim and their family to justify or defend allegations that the defendant killed someone. That's beyond slimy, IMO.

And fishing for such information without a clear purpose and relevance that is within the LAW is against the law. I don't think this immigration fishing expedition is going anywhere. It's just a harassment and smear campaign, IMO.

But then again, I think that is exactly how the immigration fishing was intended-- as a harassment and smear campaign. Distraction and deflection, as well as a frivolous case delay tactic, AND the opportunity to express "faux outrage".

When you haven't got anything of substance to use to defend yourself, attack the victim. That's defense strategy 101.
 
  • #732
BBM: Surely Dina's background check would have shown that "Rebecca and other Zahau family members had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries" and we know Dina would have made sure everyone knew about that. Just as Dina made Rebecca's shoplifting incident and mug shot public on Coronado Patch.

IOW, your stated opinion has no basis.


I doubt that her background check would have pulled up any crimianl records overseas. The family did not even use the name Zahau there.

But, IMO immigration records will show all police records that anyone in the family had before immigrating. And if RZ is listed as having a baby daughter.
 
  • #733
BBM: Surely Dina's background check would have shown that "Rebecca and other Zahau family members had prior arrests or were involved in a child's injuries" and we know Dina would have made sure everyone knew about that. Just as Dina made Rebecca's shoplifting incident and mug shot public on Coronado Patch.

IOW, your stated opinion has no basis.


You are stating as fact that Dina Shacknai, who was busy donating her son's organs, gave Rebecca's mug shot to the Coronado Patch?

Do you have a LINK to support that outrageous claim?

It was Mainstream Media that found and reported that, not Dina or the Patch. They found it when they did a name search on Rebecca after the story broke.

IMO, that photo shows the TRUE face of Rebecca Zahau, and I fear that Max saw THAT face in his last moments before unconciousness.
 
  • #734
I doubt that her background check would have pulled up any crimianl records overseas. The family did not even use the name Zahau there.

But, IMO immigration records will show all police records that anyone in the family had before immigrating. And if RZ is listed as having a baby daughter.

And again, how exactly would Dina having this information, if it even exists, which is a completely baseless rumor you have posted here, defend her from allegations that she killed Rebecca Zahau?

It doesn't. Dina will not be able to substantiate a request for this information, IMO.
 
  • #735
Snipped, and my comments in blue.



But then again, I think that is exactly how the immigration fishing was intended-- as a harassment and smear campaign. Distraction and deflection, as well as a frivolous case delay tactic, AND the opportunity to express "faux outrage".

When you haven't got anything of substance to use to defend yourself, attack the victim. That's defense strategy 101.



The entire case that the Zahaus have brought against the Shacknais is a fishing expedition. The have absolutely nothing, so they have their minions attack the victim in the case - a grieving mother that lost her child because of their sister.

When you don't have any real evidence, character assaination is your only option. It is just sad that a family that proclaims they are Christian would use that tactic in order to make 10 Million Dollars.

I guess we just disagree.
 
  • #736
I doubt that her background check would have pulled up any crimianl records overseas. The family did not even use the name Zahau there.

But, IMO immigration records will show all police records that anyone in the family had before immigrating. And if RZ is listed as having a baby daughter.

BBM Ok, I"ll play along. Let's say Mary is, in fact, and ax murderer in another country... pray tell, how is that relevant to Dina defending herself against accusations of murdering Rebecca? Mary is a murderer so it is ok that Dina is one too? LOL Makes no sense. The only thing that makes sense is that Dina and her attorneys are really grasping. And still trying to use the case to dig for anything she can use against Rebecca (as a smear campaign) and Jonah (in her suit).
 
  • #737
This is just another one of the vicious rumors being spread about this victim who lost her little boy, IMO.

Kim and Jonah were divorced long before he and Dina met.

His first marriage to Kimberly James resulted in a divorce and a three-year custody battle between 1998 and 2001 involving the couple's two children from that marriage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Zahau

Dina and Jonah were married in 2002. And had only been dating about a year, IIRC.

Kim had been long gone by then.

Dina is not the victim in terms of this lawsuit, as you well know, and she will not magically become that no matter how many times you say that she is.
 
  • #738
Dina is not the victim in terms of this lawsuit, as you well know, and she will not magically become that no matter how many times you say that she is.

Rebecca's death was ruled a suicide. By the SDSO, DOJ, and FBI. Was reviewed TWICE by the California Attorney General.

Dina was never considered a suspect in the case, and is innocent unti proven guilty. Dina is the victim of Rebecca's suicide, as is Rebecca's family.

Just because someone files a civil case, does not mean they are in the right.
 
  • #739
You are stating as fact that Dina Shacknai, who was busy donating her son's organs, gave Rebecca's mug shot to the Coronado Patch?

Do you have a LINK to support that outrageous claim?

It was Mainstream Media that found and reported that, not Dina or the Patch. They found it when they did a name search on Rebecca after the story broke.

IMO, that photo shows the TRUE face of Rebecca Zahau, and I fear that Max saw THAT face in his last moments before unconciousness.

No, Mainstream Media did not post Rebecca's photograph on Coronado Patch. Nope. Either DS or someone at her behest did it.
 
  • #740
KittyChi, you are incorrect on all counts, IMO.

The Patch picked it up from Radar.com, who was the first to report it. They are a "scandal rag" an are notorious for prining sensational stories.

The Editor of the Patch at that time, was and is one of the Zahau followers, IMO. That is evident by the stories she printed and the vile comments she allowed about a grieving family.

It is extremely unlikely she would have posted somethng Dina or someone on Dina's behest asked her to - without also printing it was from Dina - or someone connected to Dina.

In fact, I believe I have the Radar Online article, touting its Exclusive story about Rebecca's shoplifting $1000 worth of jewerly - at the age of 30 - just before she began dating Jonah Shacknai - and babysitting Max Shacknai.

I will look for the article and post it to prove you are mistaken.
 
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