Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[bourne]

"So and So is going to kill me" is a pharse many people say after something bad happens - it doesn't mean a thing.

Dina did not drive to the mansion that Tuesday night in Jonah's car. And I am pretty sure you don't have a link to prove she did, since it didn't happen.

But really, I don't care who drove whose car where or who wears gloves on YouTube while painting or why a woman shouldn't walk five blocks on a beautiful beach town night, or any of the other points brought up by the Zahau side because they don't have real evidence.

None of the above changes the fact that Rebecca took her own life. Her death is and will always be classified as a suicide because that is what it was.

But it is too nice out to be indoors typing...I'm off to the Beach. And walking there by myself!

No one said Dina drove to the mansion with Jonah's car. NINA admitted in CBS8 audiotaped interview she drove from the hospital to the summerhouse Jonah let Dina used which was around the bend from the Spreckels mansion where Rebecca was murdered that same night.

Via deductive reasoning, it is safe to assume the primary reason why Nina borrowed Jonah's car that night Rebecca was heinously and viciously tortured and killed instead of her own twin sister Dina's is that Dina and Dina's car were NEITHER at the hospital that night.

Also by deductive reasoning, and also with physical evidence of IMPARTIAL EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY by bicycle family, Dina was physically seen stalking about the front and back of the Spreckels mansion during the critical time period on Tues night when Rebecca was murdered. Also with physical evidence of hospital surveillance videotapes which did not capture Dina yet captured Jonah at the hospital that Tues night. Plus evidence via testimony by Dina herself wherein she LIED that she was sitting vigil by Max's deathbed that Tues night and wherein she LIED that she had "numerous" eyewitnesses who physically saw her at the hospital that Tues night when in fact, Dina had NO EYEWITNESSES and NO ALIBI.

Go figure. 1+1=2. And 2+2=4. Go directly to :jail:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Via deductive reasoning, Nina drove Jonah's car that night to get home since her sister was staying at the hospital. Nothing nefarious about it.

As the Judge told Greer on May 1, they'd better come up with some real evidence if they want the case to continue. I would suggest their followers do the same.

Adam's lawyer's demurrer shows the Zahaus made almost no changes to their fradulent accusations...in the eighth version. They have nothing. Rebecca killed herself and the evidence proves that.

The Zahaus should tuck tail, and run now. Sure would save them some money.

And it sure would be Christian-like of the Zahaus to issue a public apology to Dina, Nina, and Adam for accusing them of heinous crimes they were innocent of.

Then they should go on DR. Phil for some suicide survivor counseling, IMHO.

 

[justice be served]

Via deductive reasoning, Nina drove Jonah's car that night to get home since her sister was staying at the hospital. Nothing nefarious about it.

As the Judge told Greer on May 1, they'd better come up with some real evidence if they want the case to continue. I would suggest their followers do the same.

Adam's lawyer's demurrer shows the Zahaus made almost no changes to their fradulent accusations...in the eighth version. They have nothing. Rebecca killed herself and the evidence proves that.

The Zahaus should tuck tail, and run now. Sure would save them some money.

And it sure would be Christian-like of the Zahaus to issue a public apology to Dina, Nina, and Adam for accusing them of heinous crimes they were innocent of.

Then they should go on DR. Phil for some suicide survivor counseling, IMHO.

BBM. This is really kind of OT but I have asked this before and don't believe I've received an answer. You continually speak of the Zahau's Christian beliefs and with some disrespect always. What is it about the Christian topic that you keep digging at with them? I really don't understand.

 

[justice be served]

Via deductive reasoning, Nina drove Jonah's car that night to get home since her sister was staying at the hospital. Nothing nefarious about it.

As the Judge told Greer on May 1, they'd better come up with some real evidence if they want the case to continue. I would suggest their followers do the same.

Adam's lawyer's demurrer shows the Zahaus made almost no changes to their fradulent accusations...in the eighth version. They have nothing. Rebecca killed herself and the evidence proves that.

The Zahaus should tuck tail, and run now. Sure would save them some money.

And it sure would be Christian-like of the Zahaus to issue a public apology to Dina, Nina, and Adam for accusing them of heinous crimes they were innocent of.

Then they should go on DR. Phil for some suicide survivor counseling, IMHO.

I didn't get that from the judge. Perhaps you could expound and linking would be great. I am sure you are paraphrasing but I'm still not seeing where you are getting that statement. The only thing I recall offhand is the judge in Maricopa County blasting Dina.

 

[justice be served]

Dream on, justice be served. Jonah knows that Dina and Nina didn't kill Rebecca Zahau. He knows she committed suicide. After all, he was the one that spoke with her the most on that Monday and Tuesday after Max's horrible accident. He would never accuse Dina and Nina of a murder they did not commit, and to think that he would is not logical at all, IMO.

If Jonah 'was the one who spoke to her the most on that Monday and Tuesday' - are you suggesting that Rebecca told Jonah that she was going to commit suicide? That's what your statement infers. No, actually that is what you are saying. Do you know for a fact that Rebecca gave indications to Jonah that she was going to kill herself? If you recall, she was planning on bringing him a change of clothes in the morning. Your statement then simply doesn't stack up and you can't have it both ways Jose.

 

[IQuestion]

"So and So is going to kill me" is a pharse many people say after something bad happens - it doesn't mean a thing.
It is also a phrase (not pharse...hmmm farce, Freudian slip perhaps?) many women repeat to police before they are finally attacked or killed by their stalker.
Dina did not drive to the mansion that Tuesday night in Jonah's car. And I am pretty sure you don't have a link to prove she did, since it didn't happen.
No one suggested Dina drove in Jonah's car. Nina said she borrowed Jonah's car....or don't you believe her interview, either?
But really, I don't care who drove whose car where or who wears gloves on YouTube while painting (Me either, but since you claimed "likely wore gloves to paint" I just couldn't resist.) or why a woman shouldn't walk five blocks
on a beautiful beach town night, or any of the other points brought up by the Zahau side because they don't have real evidence.
Uh...NINA was not strolling on a beautiful beach town night. NINA SAID SHE WAS LOOKING FOR REBECCA... or don't you believe her, either?
None of the above changes the fact that Rebecca took her own life. Her death is and will always be classified as a suicide because that is what it was.

But it is too nice out to be indoors typing...I'm off to the Beach. And walking there by myself!

Okay, walking on the beach in broad daylight is safer than walking at night, just common safety sense. Even beautiful beach communities can be dens of inequity OR iniquity (reader's choice).
PS. My comments above are in Red and bolded for emphasis....my substitute method for not screaming, pulling my hair out and typing in all caps, IQ

 

[IQuestion]

I don't believe that at all. (Good to read you still have some doubts.) No way someone could have touched her feet down and tossed her over while standing on the carpet. None of them are The Hulk. (Oh you mean the mild mannered "scientist" who turns into a raging green monster when he/she gets angry?)

And no mens's footprints appeared in the carpet, and you can see in the photos that the carpet was not vaccumed. (Ah, but SDSO said an officer left his bootprint on the balcony....did he also LEVITATE over the carpeting to get to the balcony? I saw two officers on the balcony the morning Rebecca was found and the photo was taken at 9:30 am....Why is the photo no longer accessible on Google search? )

No, the simpliest answer is most ofter the correct one and in this case Rebecca Zahau selfishly took her own life.

Why do you think "selfish" is an appropriate word for suicide? One page back you called her actions "frenzied" suicide. And if the simplest (my spelling) answer is most often the correct one......Then I guess we all should have accepted that the McStay family, left their home mid-meal, and walked across the border, huh? Or we should believe women uncannily drown in bathtubs right around the time they are seeking divorces, huh? You know what, the SIMPLEST answer for me has been Rebecca was attacked, strangled and gruesomely displayed to sate the ire of an enraged person(s).


BTW, "footprint" and "bootprint" are very, very different. PS My responses are in red and HULK green. Thanks.

 

[Betty P]

Following this discussion of the balcony and evidence of RZ's presence and activities, there's no proof that the footprints on the balcony were Rebecca's. They could have been made by any of the children who stayed there. IIRC, there was no DNA or fingerprints linked to Rebecca anywhere on the balcony.

Because there was such a rush to label RZ's death a suicide, no one bothered to ask why there was no solid evidence of her presence on the balcony.

 

[BBL]

Via deductive reasoning, Nina drove Jonah's car that night to get home since her sister was staying at the hospital. Nothing nefarious about it.

I completely disagree and I think it is 100% nefarious. Please give me one solid reason why Nina would take Jonah's car instead of Nina's? The only possible, logical, reason is because Dina and her car was not at the hospital. Hence, Nina could not "borrow" it. She had to take Jonah's. 100% nefarious.

 

[justice be served]

I completely disagree and I think it is 100% nefarious. Please give me one solid reason why Nina would take Jonah's car instead of Nina's? The only possible, logical, reason is because Dina and her car was not at the hospital. Hence, Nina could not "borrow" it. She had to take Jonah's. 100% nefarious.

Some truths are blatently and transparently in front of us. One can try to twist and turn the story as LL does but, yes, you are right that Nina took Jonah's car because Dina's car was with Dina and both it and Dina were not at the hospital. She was stalking her prey on Coronado Island just like a kitty cat would do IMO. And we all know how that ended.

 

[justice be served]

Dream on, justice be served. Jonah knows that Dina and Nina didn't kill Rebecca Zahau. He knows she committed suicide. After all, he was the one that spoke with her the most on that Monday and Tuesday after Max's horrible accident. He would never accuse Dina and Nina of a murder they did not commit, and to think that he would is not logical at all, IMO.

I believe what is logical is that Jonah indeed believes that Dina murdered Rebecca and that's exactly why he has stayed at arm's length from both the media and the case.

However, I still remain of the belief that he knows exactly how Max died and that Rebecca had nothing to do with it. My very own subjective opinion of course.

 

[screecher]

Now remember, Dina arrived at Rady sometime mid-afternoon on Monday. Supposedly she stayed through the night and left Rady at 6 am Tuesday. So she was there, supposedly for say, 14, 15 hours. IMO, there's no way in hell, Dina left that hospital Tuesday morning without her knowing Maxie's prognosis. I am absolutely convinced of that.

Neither sister had supposedly returned to Rady until 6 pm that Tuesday evening, perhaps as late as 8 pm. Those times are according to the women themselves. So...just what did they do for 12 - 14 hours?

I imagine they cried, ranted, raged and cried some more. Then, they planned. Planned Rebecca's murder. Looked for paint, brushes ,tape and everything else Dina filled that big black bag with. They planned how they would drive back to Rady, in Dina's vehicle, create a scene with Jonah and leave the room. And the plan was for Nina to wait for a bit before feigning realization Dina was gone, gone, gone.

Hence Nina had to use Jonah's vehicle to leave Rady that evening, as Dina had already left! In her own vehicle! Dina parks her vehicle at the house Jonah allowed her to share with his son while his son had to have visitation with her. Dina then walks to Jonah's and Rebecca's home, stalks, lurks, paces nervously waiting for her sister to arrive... IN JONAH'S VEHICLE!!! Nina pulls into the space in front of the garage and sits. Guess what? Rebecca sees that Jonah is in the driveway, goes to meet him and then....well, now we know 'the rest of the story' (as Paul Harvey would say lol) to why Nina never, ever touched that damn gate, because she never got out of Jonah's vehicle!

 

[kittychi]

Interesting thoughts, Screecher. If, indeed, this was a plan hatched by the twins, part of that plan was that Jonah would be without a car to come after them!

 

[justice be served]

Interesting thoughts, Screecher. If, indeed, this was a plan hatched by the twins, part of that plan was that Jonah would be without a car to come after them!

And what this hatched plan also means is that Rebecca's murder was 100% premeditated by both sisters. I still see Adam being released from the lawsuit ultimately and Jonah funding the lawsuit to bury these two women IMO. We'll see as this is just a gut feeling.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Too bad for all of your murder theories the case was proved to be a suicide by skilled, professional investigatiors - fifteen of them to be exact working for seven long weeks.

Rebecca Zahau comiited her bizarre, dramatic suicide all by her lonesome. Proved by SDSO/DOJ/FBI.

That is a fact.

http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/

 

[screecher]

Absolutely Rebecca's heinious murder was premediated, imo. Why else would both those women go missing for all those hours from Rady? C'mon, what mother and aunt would stay away from their brain dead son and nephew for a 12 - 14 hour time block? For crying out loud, who does that???

And I agree, when Dina's WDS against Jonah is dismissed, he will absolutely put focus on aiding the Zahau's WDS against those two lying women. If he isn't already doing so ;-)

just my opinion, of course

 

[katydid23]

Absolutely Rebecca's heinious murder was premediated, imo. Why else would both those women go missing for all those hours from Rady? C'mon, what mother and aunt would stay away from their brain dead son and nephew for a 12 - 14 hour time block? For crying out loud, who does that???

And I agree, when Dina's WDS against Jonah is dismissed, he will absolutely put focus on aiding the Zahau's WDS against those two lying women. If he isn't already doing so ;-)

just my opinion, of course

Wait. So you think that Adam was not involved?

 

[screecher]

Oh, I do indeed believe he was involved. As does Jonah. Yep. Absolutely he was involved. Why else would Jonah call his team to call Paul Pfingst to show at the murder scene? It was for Adam's benefit, not the two lying women, Jonah doesn't care what happens to them. But because Adam is his brother, and perhaps because of other things (wink, wink) Jonah wasn't/isn't going to leave Adam hanging. Pun intended.

Are you aware of this? http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblo...ul-pfingst-is-accused-of-secreting-evidence/#

I'm thinking its not the first time he did this lol. After all, he was seen behind the crime tape.

 

[K_Z]

Wait. So you think that Adam was not involved?

Of course he was "involved."

But his "involvement" was quite a bit different, IMO, than Nina's and Dina's.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Yes, it is true. He was involved - he cut her down and trying to save her after her selfish dramatic act while poor little Max was in the ICU. Bet he really regrets that now.

Good thing he throughly investigated by law enforcement and found to have no involvement in Rebecca's death by suicide.


http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/