Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[justice be served]

We have made some progress! We now have two posters that have declared themselves as insiders at least in a round-about way. Thank you for doing so and no surprise there, frankly.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

:goodpost:

Maybe they didn't get the information that Adam would settle from the 911 recording, perhaps they sleuthed that out from Adam's poly video?

Or maybe the numerologist, Ed Peterson, that has written all of the blogs about Rebecca read it in his numbers?

http://www.meaningorigin.com/r/name/rebecca-zahau

https://rebeccazahaumurder.wordpress.com

https://rebeccazahaumurder.wordpress.com/numerology-for-homicides-and-suicides/

https://edverena.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/astrology-for-rebecca-zahau/

http://origin.namespage.com/posts/rebecca-


Or perhaps Nostradamus foretold of this settlement.

http://www.newprophecy.net

:laughcry:

JMO

Frigga, the emoji I posted was for the Numerology and Nostradamus sites that have posted about this case. I do find it ridiculous that some believe what is on these wacky sites, yet don't believe the findings of the Medical Examimer, the SDSO, FBI, DOJ, Cailfornia Attorney General, and Jonah 's own investigators.

I don't agree with you that "no one here is posting out of malice or malcontent". It certainly feels like it when one is one this side of the fence. Sometimes I think the forum name should be changed to "Bash the Mother of a Dead Child."

I have no ulterior motive or "less than above board" reasons for posting here, and do not appreciate being accused of such. I have followed this case from Day 1, and saw the lynch mob form. I saw the lies and rumors start and spread. I just want the TRUTH of the case to be known.

It is a FACT that Rebecca's death was ruled a SUICIDE based on the physical evidence found at the scene that proved Rebecca, and only Rebecca, was on that balcony.

In the beginning, I had so much sympathy for the Zahau family, but they lost me when they began to say it was murder in the media just eight days after Rebecca's death when LE had barely begun to investigate.

When they hired Anne Bremner, I knew it was a Civil suit they had in mind. When Cyril Wecht dug up Rebecca and conducted an autopsy in a manner that would not be allowed in a criminal court, I really knew it was a Civil lawsuit they had in mind, not Justice. I do not think this has ever been about Justice for the Zahaus, and I think they have exploited their followers good intentions.

I do wish those on the Zahau side who claim they are here for Justice would complain about the horrible posts about Dina, but they never seem to do that. Anything and everything vile and disgusting can be said here about Dina, but be on the side of law enforcement and you'd better watch out!

Frigga, I do believe that you are pretty fair and that when this lawsuit is thrown out for lack of any evidence, you will finally believe that Rebecca was not murdered, as law enforcement proved.

Maybe then you won't dislike me so much. I certainly hope so.

JMO

 

[SweetT]

OK how about some debate. (If this is off topic too much I can maybe put it in a different thread) Just let me know.
We know Rebecca boarded Ocean. My take has been that she did this to get him out of the way knowing she was not going to be around to take care of him because she was planning to suicide herself.
But I am up for other suggestions, I have come up with a few possibilities.
Was Rebecca afraid that Jonah would blame Ocean for his son's injury and hurt the dog? That would mean he had a bad temper and she knew it. Was she afraid that Jonah would sick the dog on her like he did his ex wife? Also bad temper, not a nice thing for someone to do. Not sure Ocean would even do that.
If she just wanted him out of the way, there was a garage etc that he could be kept in to get out of the way..Heck there was a guest house you could have stuck the dog in. So any thoughts?
Also just a thought, but I doubt that Dina knew that Ocean was out of the house...

 

[Jessica2012]

OK how about some debate. (If this is off topic too much I can maybe put it in a different thread) Just let me know.
We know Rebecca boarded Ocean. My take has been that she did this to get him out of the way knowing she was not going to be around to take care of him because she was planning to suicide herself.
But I am up for other suggestions, I have come up with a few possibilities.
Was Rebecca afraid that Jonah would blame Ocean for his son's injury and hurt the dog? That would mean he had a bad temper and she knew it. Was she afraid that Jonah would sick the dog on her like he did his ex wife? Also bad temper, not a nice thing for someone to do. Not sure Ocean would even do that.
If she just wanted him out of the way, there was a garage etc that he could be kept in to get out of the way..Heck there was a guest house you could have stuck the dog in. So any thoughts?
Also just a thought, but I doubt that Dina knew that Ocean was out of the house...

I think she boarded Ocean because she did not know what the situation was. At that point, no one knew Maxie's fate, and maybe in her head she thought she needed to make herself available in case JS needed her. I also think that Rebecca boarded Ocean because it was such an emotionally stressful time for everyone. Maybe she did not want Ocean to be a reminder of the events that happened. Maybe JS told her he did not want to see Ocean. This is all my opinion.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I do think Rebecca knew she was going to commit suicide when she boarded Ocean. She also sent her sister home the same day, at a time when she needed some support from her own family.

That Tuesday is also when "Asian bondage" was searched for on the computer - long before Adam arrived at the guest house at 8 pm. I personally believe she was going to commit suicide anyway, but the phone message that Jonah left made her angry - hence the strange note painted on the door.

And we never have , and probably never will learn what was in the letter addressed to Jonah that was taken as evidence - suicide notes are rarely released and the Zahaus have not released anything since the SDSO warned them they would release the entire file if the Zahaus kept releasing things "piece-meal" and out of context. I also imagine that Jonah could sue the Zahaus if they released a letter addressed to him.

I do know that Rebecca's suicide would not have become the public specticle it became, if David Gotfredson, the Investigative Producer for CBS8 in San Diego, had not sent a helicopter to take photos of the nude Rebecca in the private courtyard, and had not sent the photos out to the world. However, I have never seen him called out for this.

 

[BBL]

OK how about some debate. (If this is off topic too much I can maybe put it in a different thread) Just let me know.
We know Rebecca boarded Ocean. My take has been that she did this to get him out of the way knowing she was not going to be around to take care of him because she was planning to suicide herself.
But I am up for other suggestions, I have come up with a few possibilities.
Was Rebecca afraid that Jonah would blame Ocean for his son's injury and hurt the dog? That would mean he had a bad temper and she knew it. Was she afraid that Jonah would sick the dog on her like he did his ex wife? Also bad temper, not a nice thing for someone to do. Not sure Ocean would even do that.
If she just wanted him out of the way, there was a garage etc that he could be kept in to get out of the way..Heck there was a guest house you could have stuck the dog in. So any thoughts?
Also just a thought, but I doubt that Dina knew that Ocean was out of the house...

I think she boarded Ocean because she expected people to be in and out of the house, which is stressful for a dog. Also, she was playing chauffeur and host. She didn't have the time to take care of Ocean, so she boarded him with someone that could take care of him. Ocean was boarded at a place familiar to him for what was supposed to be a short time. Nothing nefarious about that. IMO.

 

[SweetT]

SweetT, was Ocean Rebecca's dog or Maxie's dog?
I think she boarded Ocean because she did not know what the situation was. At that point, no one knew Maxie's fate, and maybe in her head she thought she needed to make herself available in case JS needed her. I also think that Rebecca boarded Ocean because it was such an emotionally stressful time for everyone. Maybe she did not want Ocean to be a reminder of the events that happened. Maybe JS told her he did not want to see Ocean. This is all my opinion.

I have always been under the impression that Ocean was Rebecca's dog, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I do understand that she felt stressed and wondered if Jonah had asked her to board Ocean or not. Sometimes your dog is also a comfort though in times of stress. Like a BFF.

 

[SweetT]

I do think Rebecca knew she was going to commit suicide when she boarded Ocean. She also sent her sister home the same day, at a time when she needed some support from her own family.

That Tuesday is also when "Asian bondage" was searched for on the computer - long before Adam arrived at the guest house at 8 pm. I personally believe she was going to commit suicide anyway, but the phone message that Jonah left made her angry - hence the strange note painted on the door.

And we never have , and probably never will learn what was in the letter addressed to Jonah that was taken as evidence - suicide notes are rarely released and the Zahaus have not released anything since the SDSO warned them they would release the entire file if the Zahaus kept releasing things "piece-meal" and out of context.

I do know that Rebecca's suicide would not have become the public specticle it became, if David Gotfredson, the Investigative Producer for CBS8 in San Diego, had not sent a helicopter to take photos of the nude Rebecca in the private courtyard, and had not sent the photos out to the world. However, I have never seen him called out for this.

I'd love to see that letter that your'e talking about. I guess I didn't recall that there was one, but it's been a few yrs. I also would love to know that that last phone call from Jonah was about. If I were Zahau's and there were a suicide letter then why would they keep insisting this was murder. Has anyone else seen this letter? I mean it has to be part of the evidence right or no?

I don't know about the asian bondage thing, but was it possible that Jonah looked that up or would it have to have been Rebecca? Just curious.

 

[SweetT]

I think she boarded Ocean because she expected people to be in and out of the house, which is stressful for a dog. Also, she was playing chauffeur and host. She didn't have the time to take care of Ocean, so she boarded him with someone that could take care of him. Ocean was boarded at a place familiar to him for what was supposed to be a short time. Nothing nefarious about that. IMO.

That is a plausible explanation. But she was always playing chauffeur and it seems having kids in and out of the house etc. She had time to take care of him cause pretty much everyone left pretty quickly from what I could ascertain. Which then pretty much left her alone..With no one since Jonah wasn't coming home at nights.

I agree it doesnt have to be something Nefarious but it could mean she planned to not be around to take care of him also.

 

[Frigga]

My dog would be a comfort for me but I would also want my dog to be cared for properly- especially a young dog with a lot of energy and need for exercise. My older dog would be fine stuck at home (he has a doggy door and a decent size back yard) but he would be barking at new people incessantly so I think I would consider boarding him for a short time.

I would also find comfort in a younger relative (immense personal comfort) but I would not want a young relative (niece) to be put through a tragic experience (more than she already had been) or to bring comfort for my own benefit. I would also be going through a variety of emotions and feelings- guilt, pain, grief, sadness, loss etc. of my own, so it would be difficult for me (IMO) to give the comfort needed to my younger relative.

I have never looked at Rebecca sending Z home as whisking her away. I have always seen it as sending her out of an extremely traumatic circumsance which her age would not equip her to necessarily handle easily or be able to immediately process well. I would want my relative or niece back at home where she would find comfort and love and attention. I would also want her to be near her friends who are her peers (kids just naturally support one another and or distract each other- I've seen it with my own kids and their friends).

Ocean being boarded has never struck me as odd or nefarious.

 

[SweetT]

But if you were Dina coming to murder Rebecca, you might want to know if that dog was there first. I don't think Dina knew about the dog, only one person other than Rebecca knew about the dog JMO.

I dont find sending your young relative home after such a tragic accident being weird. I would probably have done the same thing. But I would have probably wanted one of my relatives, friends, kin folk there for me for support etc. Someone especially if my boyfriend was not around or coming home and if I knew I wasn't welcome or allowed at the hospital.

 

[Frigga]

But if you were Dina coming to murder Rebecca, you might want to know if that dog was there first. I don't think Dina knew about the dog, only one person other than Rebecca knew about the dog JMO.

I dont find sending your young relative home after such a tragic accident being weird. I would probably have done the same thing. But I would have probably wanted one of my relatives, friends, kin folk there for me for support etc. Someone especially if my boyfriend was not around or coming home and if I knew I wasn't welcome or allowed at the hospital.

Yes, I agree completely. Did Rebecca have no one with her during this time frame? Did she have a best friend or close friend near by? Her family lives elsewhere- yes?

Who all would have known about Ocean being boarded and how do we know who knew (or didn't know) for certain? TIA

 

[Frigga]

I apologize, it has been a long time and I follow a lot of cases. Was Rebecca not allowed at the hospital? Who forbade her and how do we know this?

TIA- again!

 

[BBL]

But if you were Dina coming to murder Rebecca, you might want to know if that dog was there first. I don't think Dina knew about the dog, only one person other than Rebecca knew about the dog JMO.

I dont find sending your young relative home after such a tragic accident being weird. I would probably have done the same thing. But I would have probably wanted one of my relatives, friends, kin folk there for me for support etc. Someone especially if my boyfriend was not around or coming home and if I knew I wasn't welcome or allowed at the hospital.

Another thought is that maybe Adam doesn't like dogs and Rebecca was trying to be accommodating. Who knows.

I would thinnk many folks knew about the dog. I would certianly think she'd discuss with Jonah. It could easily have become a topic of converstaion and, as such, Dina could easily have either been a part of the conversation or have overheard a phone call.

I would also guess (pure guess) that Rebecca would have liked to have some family there. But, given what seems to be a contentious atmosphere, maybe she didn't want to expose them. My family lives in different states than I do. It would be very difficult (and costly) for them to drop everything to babysit my emotions. Would they if I asked? Sure. But, I probably wouldn't ask. Just having them on the phone and texting support would be a comfort.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I'd love to see that letter that your'e talking about. I guess I didn't recall that there was one, but it's been a few yrs. I also would love to know that that last phone call from Jonah was about. If I were Zahau's and there were a suicide letter then why would they keep insisting this was murder. Has anyone else seen this letter? I mean it has to be part of the evidence right or no?

I don't know about the asian bondage thing, but was it possible that Jonah looked that up or would it have to have been Rebecca? Just curious.

There was a letter taken into evidence that first day that was adressed to Jonah. I honestly don't know how that works. IF it were a true suicide note to Jonah, would he and LE be obligated to share that with the Zahaus? My guess is they would have been told there was a note to Jonah, but it would have been up to Jonah to let them read it. If it were very personal in nature, I can see him keeping it to himself. but that's just a guess.

I was wrong about the "Asian Bondage " being looked at on Tuesday. It was actually looked at on Monday. Only Rebecca and XZ would have been there and the search as done on Rebecca's computer. I really don't think that XZ was looking up , so that really leads me to believe that Rebecca was preparing for her suicide on the Monday, after Max's accident.

"There was activity on Rebecca’s computer the day before the incident"

http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/faq.html


JMO

 

[SweetT]

Frigga, much of this case has been a long time for me too. I normally do not post, just occasionally and have forgotten a few things. I think the bondage thing has come back to me but still not sure that it could not have been Jonah but perhaps others know.
I was under the impression previously that Rebecca was not welcome/allowed at the hospital to see Maxie due to IIRC a request from Dina. Again I'm sure others can substantiate this or add to it etc.
All of Rebecca's relatives live out of state, she had no one there that I know of to comfort or help her through. Just phone calls to her sister etc. I was under the impression that she had been telling her sister that Maxie was getting better/ that she somehow expected him to recover etc. But we all know now that she was mislead on that. Who mislead her? Jonah? Why? Who knows right.
We do not know for sure who knew and didnt know about the dog, but Jonah would know, did he tell Dina? I doubt it but again who knows.
I do know that everyone thinks Dina has answers.
The truth is that Jonah is the only one who knows what was in that Suicide note. Jonah is the only one who knows what the last call was about. Jonah is the one who had the door repainted and re hung so very quickly. I think Jonah even knew what the message meant. But thats just My opinion.

 

[SweetT]

There was a letter taken into evidence that first day that was adressed to Jonah. I honestly don't know how that works. IF it were a true suicide note to Jonah, would he and LE be obligated to share that with the Zahaus? My guess is they would have been told there was a note to Jonah, but it would have been up to Jonah to let them read it. If it were very personal in nature, I can see hi. Keeping it to himself. but that's just a guess.

No one was there that Tuesday morning but Rebecca and XZ.

Yea I wish I knew the answer to that also. You would think if it were part of a POSSIBLE crime scene then they would have at least made copies of it and it would have been part of evidence. I wouldn't care what it said or how damming it seemed if I thought my daughter had been murdered I would allow it to be seen...but that's just me. Thats if the Zahau's actually got a copy of it.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I apologize, it has been a long time and I follow a lot of cases. Was Rebecca not allowed at the hospital? Who forbade her and how do we know this?

TIA- again!

Rebecca was not banned for the hospital. That is another rumor. She saw Max in the ER on Monday, and at Rady's on Tuesday.

Rebecca returned to the hospital the next day to see Max again while Dina was home sleeping after an all-night vigil

http://www.newsweek.com/what-really-happened-coronado-mansion-67411

 

[SweetT]

Rebecca was not banned for the hospital. That is another rumor. She saw Max in the ER on Monday, and at Rady's on Tuesday.



http://www.newsweek.com/what-really-happened-coronado-mansion-67411

Thanks I didnt know that..

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Also, it seems it was Rebecca who was insisting on picking everyone up from the hospital. Nina said in the New 8 interview/ interrogation that she told Rebecca she would rent a car, but Rebecca insisted that she come pick her up.