Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #4

[LuckyLucy2]

IMO, the purpose of Dina's case against Jonah has become quite clear. Dina was ordered to pay sanctions for failure to comply to discovery responses in a case SHE brought against Jonah. Dina was given several opportunities to comply. She did ask for an extension at one time, however there was even a time she had no legal representation as noted in one of the orders. Dina never complied to the discovery responses and now her own case is being dismissed with prejudice.

Dina ignored the judges orders in the case she brought against Jonah, yet she submitted 4 motions just this week in Rebecca's WDS. Not including the 125 page motion. Talk about billable hours, Dina's building an enormous tab with her defense in the Zahau WDS. Imo, it has become evident where Dina chooses to spend her money and time. Dina could have complied and could have continued pursing Max's WDS. Why did Dina stop fighting her OWN case?

Imo, Dina's lack of activity in Max's WDS verses very active in the Zahau WDS is pretty telling of her true intentions when she filed suit against Jonah.

ETA - according to ROA doc 228, Sheila Baker of Shumann and Rosenberg charges $170 an hour. The cost associated with just this one 25 pg motion was $3,426, can you imagine how much the 125 pg motion cost Dina?

https://roa.sdcourt.ca.gov/roa/face...tion_Testimony_of_Doug_P_Lo_1445568050507.pdf

It is not surprising to me that Dina and Jonah came to an agreement. So much for the theory that he "hates" the Mother of his precious child, Max. It is sad for both of them, since the person responsible for Max's accident, Rebecca Zahau committed suicide rather than face Child Protective Services.

It is not Dina that will have to pay I the fradulent murder case against her. It will be dishonest Mary Zahau, when the Judge throws the book at her for accusing innocent people of murder and then refusing to answer her deposition questions. It is clear she just wanted to make money off of these innocent people.

JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Actually JS from day one has been high on my guilty list and remains so. Having said that, though, I believe he knows exactly what happened to Max that day and Rebecca's murder (IMO) followed not to his bidding but through his manipulation of events and others. I do believe Dina did it though she was also manipulated.

I believe his children were present at Max's accidental death, they were quickly shuttled away from the scene and Rebecca truly didn't see the accident. She was told to keep quiet on who all was there and she complied. After the accusations started flying from Dina, she told Jonah she was not going to take the rap on Max's fall and then became a huge liability to JS protecting his kids.

I do believe Max died purely accidentally but the "story" spiraled out of control. Yes, the all-powerful JS has skated IMO. I am in full agreement with you on that.

Simply my opinion.

Interesting and imaginative "theory" but has no basis in the truth. Rebecca Zahau killed herself, and that has been proved by Law Enforcement. I sometimes think that even if Rebecca were to come back from the dead and go on Dr. Phil to tell him she really did commit suicide, many people would still say it was murder.

JMo

 

[screecher]

Regarding our earlier discussion about Dina's insurance covering her legal fees for the Zahau case (in which Dina is a named Defendant), but NOT covering her legal fees for the Maricopa county case in which Dina is the Plaintiff-- Dina has listed Chubb and Sons in her documents for the Zahau case.

http://www.chubb.com/personal/content/products/excess_liability/personal_excess.html



http://www.chubb.com/personal/content/resources/chubb_coverage/excess_liability_coverage.html



BBM, and red color by me.

50 million freakin dollars? Holy Crap.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

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I don't believe Jonah offered to drop lawyer fees. I believe Dina was compelled by the Judge to drop the suit. The Judge likely told Dina, "Listen you, you have NO proof whatsoever that Jonah or Rebecca or anyone else intentionally caused harm to Max, if you don't drop the suit, you will just be wasting the court's time and your own money. So drop the suit!"

That's exactly what I believe Judge Bacall will be saying to Mary Zahau soon for trying to frame innocent victims of her sister Rebecca's suicide (proven and a FACT.)

 

[screecher]

Aa


Do you have a link that shows what time XZ left Coronado? The was searched for in the last 24 hours of Rebecca's life. XZ left in the afternoon, so that time is within the 24 hours, AFAIK.

Why the obsession with a victum who BTW IS a minor???

 

[screecher]

It is not surprising to me that Dina and Jonah came to an agreement. So much for the theory that he "hates" the Mother of his precious child, Max. It is sad for both of them, since the person responsible for Max's accident, Rebecca Zahau committed suicide rather than face Child Protective Services.

It is not Dina that will have to pay I the fradulent murder case against her. It will be dishonest Mary Zahau, when the Judge throws the book at her for accusing innocent people of murder and then refusing to answer her deposition questions. It is clear she just wanted to make money off of these innocent people.

JMO

Ummm. No. the ex-mrs jonah shacknai will be held accountable for her ex! husband's court costs.

 

[screecher]

Interesting and imaginative "theory" but has no basis in the truth. Rebecca Zahau killed herself, and that has been proved by Law Enforcement. I sometimes think that even if Rebecca were to come back from the dead and go on Dr. Phil to tell him she really did commit suicide, many people would still say it was murder.

JMo

Actually there is no basis the youngest male child siblings were NOT in the house at the time of his accident. No proof. At all.

Just a made up story, imo.

So. There. You. Go.

 

[screecher]

It is not surprising to me that Dina and Jonah came to an agreement. So much for the theory that he "hates" the Mother of his precious child, Max. It is sad for both of them, since the person responsible for Max's accident, Rebecca Zahau committed suicide rather than face Child Protective Services.

It is not Dina that will have to pay I the fradulent murder case against her. It will be dishonest Mary Zahau, when the Judge throws the book at her for accusing innocent people of murder and then refusing to answer her deposition questions. It is clear she just wanted to make money off of these innocent people.

JMO

Hey. JS and the ex-mrs jonah shacknai DID NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT. Judge Whitten granted Jonah Shacknai's filing. The ex-mrs jonah shacknai was the LOSER in the suit SHE brought to court.

 

[*Lash*]

I wanted to add that if someone has an umbrella policy that is paying their legal bills in a lawsuit in which they are named as a defendant, it is very important that the premium payments are paid every month, on time. Because that coverage could be withdrawn rather suddenly if a customer fell behind in payments, etc.

In fact, for someone in Dina's current circumstances, paying those monthly premiums is probably far more important than paying some pesky court ordered $28,000 penalties and fines on time. If one was cash poor, and in those circumstances, it will take a long time, months to years, for the court system to come after her for the penalty fees. Umbrella insurance could be gone in a matter of days or weeks if the premiums aren't paid on time.

Thank you KZ for answering Gilgamesh's question .

We found Dina was likely covered by an umbrella policy when she listed Chubbs & Sons in a case management document. Adam also listed an ins co. I don't believe Nina did, but it has been awhile since that discussion.

I'm not certain Dina would need to continue paying future premiums for the umbrella policy to keep her legal counsel in this WDS. I'm thinking the date of the claim (loss date) is already secured. Meaning when she filed the claim for the Zahau WDS with her ins co she was properly insured. Of course, she would definitely need to continue for any future liability claims. I may be wrong. I'm going off how an auto or homeowners claim would work. I'm thinking as long as she was insured at the time she filed this claim (Zahau WDS), she is covered until it is resolved and/or exceeds her policy limits.

 

[bourne]

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That's exactly what I believe Judge Bacall will be saying to Mary Zahau soon for trying to frame innocent victims of her sister Rebecca's suicide (proven and a FACT.)

You sound desperate and illogical. "Proven and a FACT"???? Where are your PROOF and FACTS?

 

[bourne]

Hey. JS and the ex-mrs jonah shacknai DID NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT. Judge Whitten granted Jonah Shacknai's filing. The ex-mrs jonah shacknai was the LOSER in the suit SHE brought to court.

Yep. Dina is a BIG F** LOSER in her own case against Jonah. Just waiting for Dina the loser to be held liable for Rebecca's heinous, coldblooded murder and for Dina to pay through her slimy stinkin' teeth (hopefully with capital punishment/criminal charges pursuant to the WDS case).

 

[bourne]

Why would Dina not spend her money on Max's WDS instead of a case where she allegedly has an alibi?

Dina's representation and activity in the two cases are very different. No representation vs plenty? No motions vs an over abundance? Could it be because an insurance company is paying her legal fees in the Zahau WDS? The money isn't coming out of her pocket so to speak?

Then again, Dina's defense is noticeably very different from the other defendants in the Zahau WDS. Adam and Nina are quiet compared to Dina. Why so different? Adam listed an insurance company. Of course we don't know the terms of their policies.

The fact that Dina is spending an exorbitant amount of money, time and resources on the Zahau WDS case instead of her own WDS against Jonah when Dina claimed she has an "alibi" means only one thing: Dina has ZERO ALIBI for the night Rebecca was brutally and heinously murdered by a depraved, psychotic criminal.

 

[Frigga]

Aa


Do you have a link that shows what time XZ left Coronado? The was searched for in the last 24 hours of Rebecca's life. XZ left in the afternoon, so that time is within the 24 hours, AFAIK.

Are you actually accusing Rebecca's little sister of doing that search?

 

[AZlawyer]

I think the discussion comes from this post back in August.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-2013-in-California-3&p=11985157#post11985157

And another poster posted in July that DS would be deposed in late summer early autumn 2015.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-2013-in-California-3&p=11904813#post11904813

Thank you! From the Zahaus' proposed schedule, it seems that they planned to depose Dina and Nina in October 2015 (this month). So maybe that happened already, or maybe it will happen this week, or maybe it will happen within the next couple of months if they're not right on schedule, but there's no reason to imagine that the depos have been delayed.

Regarding the "Stipulation for Dismissal with Prejudice" in the Maricopa County case, that should be followed, probably Monday, with an Order for Dismissal" by the Judge. IIRC, sometimes that's just a form with check boxes for who will pay the attorney fees, and sometimes that is a more explantory written order from the Judge. We'll see.

Because of the lead up to yesterday, Jonah's requests for dismissal with prejudice, and the repeated court orders that Dina wasn't following and ignoring, I think it's safe to assume Dina did not voluntarily offer to withdraw her case. Nor do I think it's even possible that she and Jonah agreed on any kind of "settlement". I think this dismissal comes fom the Judge. He did officially warn her several times that if Dina continued to refuse to cooperate with the court, in the case SHE filed as Plaintiff, the sanction of dismissal was going to be given.

Here's a brief explanation of dismissal, using AZ statutes: (BBM)

http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/stipulated-dismissal/



I think because of her behavior in the case, ignoring deadlines, ignoring court orders, etc., that Dina as Plaintiff will be ordered to pay Jonah's attorney fees and court costs, in addition to the fees, costs, and fines she has already been ordered to pay. Those don't go away just because the case is dismissed. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other fines as well.

Suing Jonah for the wrongful death of their son was a huge mistake for Dina, IMO. Just another expensive example of the extremes she goes to when she's being vindictive. Not exactly rational behavior, IMO.

Quite frankly, I think Dina could have gotten the money she wanted out of Jonah if she had sued him for wrongful death of Max due to the stair railings in the mansion being unsafe, or not up to code. His insurance would have likely quickly settled that case for $$$$, even though there was an outside toy scooter involved in Max's fall.

BBM



BINGO!!!

Do you suppose she agreed because JS offered to drop his lawyers fees she was ordered to pay? And pay her fines Whitten put in place?

Do you think he would even entertain any of that? Intially, I thought he might (cause its just pocket change to him) just to be done with her. But now I'm thinking maybe she's still stuck with it all, didn't pay up and now in jail for contempt of court lol.

I don't think Jonah had to offer anything at all to get this case dismissed with prejudice. He is the wronged party here. And the court, whose time was wasted by a Plaintiff who wouldn't even cooperate in the case SHE filed.

I don't think Dina would be jailed for failing to pay the fees and fines, because the remedy for that is the sanction of dismissal of her case with prejudice (she can't ever file again), with the fees and fines still owed. That is what Judge Whitten officially warned her of several times.

If she had a tantrum in court, or was mouthy to the judge, or something like that, then he might order her to jail. I'm doubtful he would jail her for failure to pay the fees and fines, but he could still find her in contempt. That's where the sanction/ penalty of dismissal of her claims comes in, if I understand all of the court procedures correctly. AZ lawyer might comment on this at some point.

ETA: But it sure wouldn't break my heart if I heard she had to spend some time in jail. I think a timeout like that would be good for her.

If a stipulation for dismissal was filed, it came from the parties (jointly), not from the judge. The only way to tell if JS gave up his claim for attorneys' fees in exchange for Dina's agreement to dismiss would be to order a copy of the stipulation itself or the dismissal order (not available online except to parties and their counsel). The judge might also issue a minute entry reciting the terms of the dismissal--if so, that should be available (free) on the website shortly.

 

[SweetT]

Are you actually accusing Rebecca's little sister of doing that search?

Don't think that is too crazy honestly, I caught my 12 yr old Stepdaughter doing exactly that on our family computer! I won't go into any detail, but yea stuff like that does happen.

 

[Frigga]

Don't think that is too crazy honestly, I caught my 12 yr old Stepdaughter doing exactly that on our family computer! I won't go into any detail, but yea stuff like that does happen.

Respectfully, I know 'stuff like that happens', thank you SweetT. I am asking LL if that is what she believes happened.

 

[SweetT]

The fact that Dina is spending an exorbitant amount of money, time and resources on the Zahau WDS case instead of her own WDS against Jonah when Dina claimed she has an "alibi" means only one thing: Dina has ZERO ALIBI for the night Rebecca was brutally and heinously murdered by a depraved, psychotic criminal.

Well, if her liability insurance is paying for her defense then it could make sense.

 

[bourne]

Well, if her liability insurance is paying for her defense then it could make sense.

No it doesn't. Why would you as an insurance holder want your insurance to pay for something that could easily be resolved by your showing PROOF that you had the so-called 'iron-clad alibi' during the time in question wherein you are ACCUSED of viciously and sadistically MURDERING someone?

MAKES ZERO SENSE that Dina is spending all her time, energy, money and resources on something she herself claimed she can easily clear up with her "iron-clad alibi". Makes.no.sense.whatsoever.

 

[bourne]

Don't think that is too crazy honestly, I caught my 12 yr old Stepdaughter doing exactly that on our family computer! I won't go into any detail, but yea stuff like that does happen.

Excuse me. But speculation about children and teens are not allowed on WS -- especially with ZERO proof about XZ doing anything remotely related to this. Where are the mods on this?

 

[bourne]

If a stipulation for dismissal was filed, it came from the parties (jointly), not from the judge. The only way to tell if JS gave up his claim for attorneys' fees in exchange for Dina's agreement to dismiss would be to order a copy of the stipulation itself or the dismissal order (not available online except to parties and their counsel). The judge might also issue a minute entry reciting the terms of the dismissal--if so, that should be available (free) on the website shortly.

This is what I had said! Thanks for verifying it. BOTH plaintiff Dina and Jonah agreed to the STIPULATION. I hope they provide the disposition of the dismissal online so we can all read it. Don't they generally publish that immediately after a case's disposition is ruled by Judge?