Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #4

[AZlawyer]

This is what I had said! Thanks for verifying it. BOTH plaintiff Dina and Jonah agreed to the STIPULATION. I hope they provide the disposition of the dismissal online so we can all read it. Don't they generally publish that immediately after a case's disposition is ruled by Judge?

Maricopa County Superior Court doesn't have anything available online except for the docket (list of documents, dates, and judgments) and minute entries. Documents that are filed by parties and orders submitted by parties (even if later signed by the judge) are not available online except to those involved in the case.

 

[justice be served]

B

No it doesn't. Why would you as an insurance holder want your insurance to pay for something that could easily be resolved by your showing PROOF that you had the so-called 'iron-clad alibi' during the time in question wherein you are ACCUSED of viciously and sadistically MURDERING someone?

MAKES ZERO SENSE that Dina is spending all her time, energy, money and resources on something she herself claimed she can easily clear up with her "iron-clad alibi". Makes.no.sense.whatsoever.

Having been involved in my business with a professional insurance claim, our insurers lead the direction of the defense and we smartly take their lead but certainly have a voice. Our insurers strictly take the position of outlining the facts internally and then steering a case to a quick conclusion while mitigating their and our exposure.

Now having said that, could it be that playing the delay game is Chubb's most productive gamble hoping that the Zahau family runs out of money? And does Chubb really know the facts or are they being fed a lot of lies?

Even though it has appeared that Dina likes to lead her attorneys (i.e., using the left handed kitten website), I can't imagine she is able to be overly influential with Chubb.

If Chubb has a high degree of uncertainty or certainty of their client's guilt, then I can see them using every trick in the book to make this as difficult and costly for the plaintiffs. And speaking of that strategy, seems that IS what appears to be underway me thinks.

 

[bourne]

B

Having been involved in my business with a professional insurance claim, our insurers lead the direction of the defense and we smartly take their lead but certainly have a voice. Our insurers strictly take the position of outlining the facts internally and then steering a case to a quick conclusion while mitigating their and our exposure.

Now having said that, could it be that playing the delay game is Chubb's most productive gamble hoping that the Zahau family runs out of money? And does Chubb really know the facts or are they being fed a lot of lies?

Even though it has appeared that Dina likes to lead her attorneys (i.e., using the left handed kitten website), I can't imagine she is able to be overly influential with Chubb.

If Chubb has a high degree of uncertainty or certainty of their client's guilt, then I can see them using every trick in the book to make this as difficult and costly for the plaintiffs. And speaking of that strategy, seems that IS what appears to be underway me thinks.

Hmm, that nevertheless means that Dina has ZERO alibi and that Chubbs even believes she is guilty as sin and has doubts as to Dina having any real defense other than putting up numerous irrelevant interrogatories of the Zahau's family WHO WERE NOT EVEN PRESENT in CORONADO during time Rebecca was heinously and viciously murdered. The only PRIME SUSPECT who was physically SEEN by impartial eyewitnesses was Dina. Plus Dina magically escaped from being videocaptured on surveillance cameras at the hospital where she swore she had been sitting vigil by Max's side in the ICU. Yet, these same cameras captured her ex-husband Jonah at the hospital/ICU....Hmm, now how can that be?????

 

[SweetT]

Excuse me. But speculation about children and teens are not allowed on WS -- especially with ZERO proof about XZ doing anything remotely related to this. Where are the mods on this?

I haven't speculated anything, just making a statement.

 

[SweetT]

B

Having been involved in my business with a professional insurance claim, our insurers lead the direction of the defense and we smartly take their lead but certainly have a voice. Our insurers strictly take the position of outlining the facts internally and then steering a case to a quick conclusion while mitigating their and our exposure.

Now having said that, could it be that playing the delay game is Chubb's most productive gamble hoping that the Zahau family runs out of money? And does Chubb really know the facts or are they being fed a lot of lies?

Even though it has appeared that Dina likes to lead her attorneys (i.e., using the left handed kitten website), I can't imagine she is able to be overly influential with Chubb.

If Chubb has a high degree of uncertainty or certainty of their client's guilt, then I can see them using every trick in the book to make this as difficult and costly for the plaintiffs. And speaking of that strategy, seems that IS what appears to be underway me thinks.

In my experience with insurance, it is called BAD FAITH to drag out a claim just to have someone go broke. The place I worked for, this would be grounds for you to get fired. I don't pretend to know what anyone's strategy is, but I do know that sometimes insurance companies or their attorneys can be pretty over loaded and not really act on things until the court date shows up etc. Hopefully that is not the case here, but since I know nothing about any of them I don't pretend to know. There are very good pro active attorneys working on cases, and then there are the ones who just seem to be barely trudging along.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Are you actually accusing Rebecca's little sister of doing that search?

Only she and Rebecca were there at the time. It was certainly one of them, but my bet is it was Rebecca planning her naked, bizarre suicide.

JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

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The fact that Dina is spending an exorbitant amount of money, time and resources on the Zahau WDS case instead of her own WDS against Jonah when Dina claimed she has an "alibi" means only one thing: Dina has ZERO ALIBI for the night Rebecca was brutally and heinously murdered by a depraved, psychotic criminal.

You realize that Rebecca Zahau's death is proven to be a SUICIDE in a case worked on for seven long weeks by by the SDSO, DOJ,and FBI and the case has been reviewed by the California Attorney Generals office TWICE, and they found NO reason to open the case?

So I suppose that means Rebecca herself is the "depraved, psychotic, criminal?"

http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/


JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

No it doesn't. Why would you as an insurance holder want your insurance to pay for something that could easily be resolved by your showing PROOF that you had the so-called 'iron-clad alibi' during the time in question wherein you are ACCUSED of viciously and sadistically MURDERING someone?

MAKES ZERO SENSE that Dina is spending all her time, energy, money and resources on something she herself claimed she can easily clear up with her "iron-clad alibi". Makes.no.sense.whatsoever.

Dina has already been cleared by the people that matter. She was NO WHERE near the mansion when Rebecca committed suicide. That was determined by Law Enforcement. They determined Rebecca committed suicide and that is was Rebecca's death is on her death certificate.

http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/

JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Hey. JS and the ex-mrs jonah shacknai DID NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT. Judge Whitten granted Jonah Shacknai's filing. The ex-mrs jonah shacknai was the LOSER in the suit SHE brought to court.

As I said, Jonah and Dina reached an agreement. Thanks to AZLawyer for confirming that:

If a stipulation for dismissal was filed, it came from the parties (jointly), not from the judge.

 

[Inparadise]

It was a well known fact that the back door to Spreckels was always open.........would like to know where Nina's son, who is quite computer savy was on THAT PARTICULAR Tuesday.........IMO, easy access.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

^ It was ANYONE except Rebecca or XZ searching for Asian on REBECCA's COMPUTER, huh?

Nope, it was Rebecca planning her naked Cirque du Soliel act - an angry FU to Jonah and Dina.

JMOO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

InParadise, what more can you tell us about the witness you have said you KNOW who claims to have seen Dina at Spreckels? (This is the witness LE did not find credible.). Pretty amazing you happen to know him!

 

[Inparadise]

InParadise, what more can you tell us about the witness you have said you KNOW who claims to have seen Dina at Spreckels? (This is the witness LE did not find credible.). Pretty amazing you happen to know him!

I never have claimed to know the witness that saw you at Spreckels that night. You made that up! But I do know the neighbors who heard Rebecca scream for help that night. And I do know Dina's former best Coronado friend (the hair stylist) who thinks she was involved in Rebecca's death.......because she was at the G Ave property house and said that Dina was totally out of control

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Perhaps you forgot you posted that? Here is what you wrote:

CuriousGeorgia asked you to provide a link that said what time "Dina" had been spotted at the mansion by a "witness:"

InParadise, do you have a link for your information?

Aug. 29, 2012 02:40 PM
Inparadise

Here it is.....from 9/22/2011.

Besides, I know the person who saw the woman

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/...s-justice.html



Can you tell us HOW you happen to know a witness?

 

[LuckyLucy2]

And there is this post. You must have forgotten?

InParadise:
I know the person that saw Dina that night, and I must say that I would believe that individual over Gore any day. Gore just wanted this all to go away, so why bother having any POIs?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?190115-Zahau-Death-Investigation

What can you tell us about your relationship with this witness?

 

[Carioca]

Excellent news On Friday the Federal case was dismissed. The Honorable Judge Whelan granted the Plaintiffs' (Rebecca Zahau family) motion for voluntary dismissal, in spite of repeated objections by the defendants D.N.A.

Order Granting Plaintiffs' Motion for Voluntary Dismissal Without Prejudice Pursuant to Def. R. Div. P. 41(a)(2) [Doc. 73]

https://www.pacer.gov/
Case #: 13-cv-01624-W-NLS

Most recent entries in docket as of yesterday:

10/26/2015
103
RESPONSE re 95 Objection, Opposition to Defendant Dina Shacknai's Objection to Order of Magistrate Nita L. Stormes Granting in Part and Denying in Part Motion by Nonparty Jonah Shacknai to Quash Subpoena Served on the San Diego County Sheriff's Department filed by Jonah Shacknai. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration of Amanda C. Fitzsimmons, # 2 Exhibit 1, # 3 Proof of Service)(Young, Christopher) (Entered: 10/26/2015)

10/26/2015
102
ORDER for Clarification Regarding Dismissal 99 . The briefing schedule on the pending objection to Magistrate Judge Stormes' order awarding fees and costs to non-party Jonah Shacknai remains in effect. Any response to Defendant Dina Shacknai's objection is due today, October 26, 2015. Defendant Dina Shacknai's reply, if any, is due on or before November 9, 2015. Upon submission of the foregoing briefs, parties shall await further order of the Court. Signed by Judge Thomas J. Whelan on 10/26/2015.(vam) (Entered: 10/26/2015)

10/23/2015
101
NOTICE by Jonah Shacknai Regarding Proposed Protective Order and Discovery Relating to Jonah Shacknai (Attachments: # 1 Proof of Service)(Young, Christopher) (Entered: 10/23/2015)

10/23/2015
100
SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT by Dina Shacknai re 91 Order on Motion to Quash, 94 Order Setting Briefing Schedule, Proposed Stipulated Protective Order. (Attachments: # 1 Proof of Service)(Mathews, Bradley) (Entered: 10/23/2015)

View attachment 99.pdfView attachment 73.pdfView attachment 73_1.pdf

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Dismissed just like the California Case will be dismissed! Woo Hoo!

:happydance: :happydance: :happydance: :happydance: :happydance:

And the ZAHAUS asked for it to be dismissed! THAT is priceless!

Too bad the Judge did not fine them, but shows JUST how BOGUS their claims are!

But I bet Judge Bacal will fine the Zahaus very, VERY, heavily for wasting the courts time when they had NO EVIDENCE AT ALL for their accusations!

JUSTICE FOR THE SHACKNAI and ROMANOS! arty:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

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InParadise's quote is taken directly from WebSleuths.

Inparadise
08-29-2012, 12:40 PM
And IIRC, it was determined on the Hinky Meter that the 9:41 time was the correct time due the difference in Nina and Rebecca's time settings.

InParadise, do you have a link for your information?

Here it is.....from 9/22/2011. Besides, I know the person who saw the woman

More Questions Than Answers &#8211;Justice Requires That Rebecca Zahau Case Be Reopened

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-questions-than-answers-justice.html

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-182871.html

 

[*Lash*]

In my experience with insurance, it is called BAD FAITH to drag out a claim just to have someone go broke. The place I worked for, this would be grounds for you to get fired. I don't pretend to know what anyone's strategy is, but I do know that sometimes insurance companies or their attorneys can be pretty over loaded and not really act on things until the court date shows up etc. Hopefully that is not the case here, but since I know nothing about any of them I don't pretend to know. There are very good pro active attorneys working on cases, and then there are the ones who just seem to be barely trudging along.

As well, the amount of attention a litigation claim receives usually depends on how much the insurance co anticipates losing or winning. Most companies have a select few firms they have chosen to work their litigation claims. They have their own legal department overseeing these types of claims. The department would review motions, billable hours, contact with law firm, etc...They approve/decline any settlement offers. Imo, the ins co usually holds the reigns. They can trump the law firm and insured.

 

[justice be served]

Dismissed just like the California Case will be dismissed! Woo Hoo!

:happydance: :happydance: :happydance: :happydance: :happydance:

And the ZAHAUS asked for it to be dismissed! THAT is priceless!

Too bad the Judge did not fine them, but shows JUST how BOGUS their claims are!

But I bet Judge Bacal will fine the Zahaus very, VERY, heavily for wasting the courts time when they had NO EVIDENCE AT ALL for their accusations!

JUSTICE FOR THE SHACKNAI and ROMANOS! arty:

I don't pretend to understand the machinations of the state case versus the federal case, but if I recall, the Zahaus were willing to drop the federal case once the state case reached a certain status. Maybe someone else can weigh in on this recollection.

Also if the defendants objected to the federal case being dropped, I deduce that the defendants felt there was a better chance of a positive outcome for them in the federal case. I would further surmise that the state case perhaps is moving forward positively for the Zahaus that they moved that the federal case could be dropped.

Seems that the Zahaus play by the rules without wasting the court's time unlike DS has recently shown in the Maricopa County case.