WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 2

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  • #301
There is nothing this family can say that will convince me that she was kidnapped and/or walked away from the home on her own. Makes NO sense.

Even if the dad had left for work. Who is going to go into a very small home where there are 5 children (possibly awake), in broad daylight, and kidnap a child? I just don't buy it.

Someone mentioned above the new video shows mom was driving around and looking for the girl? Anyone have a link to this? I know video captured her driving around, but how would they even be able to tell if she was looking for the child, a dumpster, or possibly any cameras that might be watching her?

Bloodhounds traced the scent from the porch to her bedroom and straight to the banks of the river. Do we know if this was the river just beyond her backyard?

Someone on the Nancy Grace show said it last night - to the effect that she claimed she was searching for the child, and video did confirm her story. I'm just guessing, but I don't think she was videoed driving the speed limit with the windows up. Just guessing, why the quote would say video confirmed she was searching.
 
  • #302
Interesting theory, could also be in line with what you have stated, that step dad did not know. Mother whisks the 9y.o. off to her room after finding the child dead, gets hubby off to work then panic time, 2 hour drive with the deceased child in tow. Very plausible.

I am 29 and unfortunately know several mothers that will give babies Tylenol to get them to sleep, sometimes even when they're not sick. This makes me consider the theory mentioned all the more plausible.
 
  • #303
I don't think the family was 'up and about'. I think everyone was sleeping during this time, although Lena did get up earlier to see her husband off to work, and checked on Baby A. This could well have happened around 7 a.m. - and because Baby A was sick, Lena didn't bother to check on her until 9:30, giving her a chance to rest.

The scenario I had in my head was that mom and some of the kids had gotten up around 6:30, did whatever, and then when mom went to check on Aliayah at 9,9:30 she was gone.

Why would a kidnapper enter a home in the morning hours to kidnap a child? That's taking a huge risk that someone will be up or a neighbor will see something...
 
  • #304
i find it very odd that the mother drove around for 2 hours (thats along time..)before even reporting her missing...i mean i can see if she drove around the block but 2 hours..it took that long for a reason..in my opinion..you can do alot in that amount of time..how far did she think the child could go..it doesnt make sense..especially when she was low on gas and ran out..thats chancing driving around when she could have called someone..to drive around that low on gas i would think risking that would be for another reason..the first thing if she wasnt involved would be call 911.. IMO
 
  • #305
The scenario I had in my head was that mom and some of the kids had gotten up around 6:30, did whatever, and then when mom went to check on Aliayah at 9,9:30 she was gone.

Why would a kidnapper enter a home in the morning hours to kidnap a child? That's taking a huge risk that someone will be up or a neighbor will see something...

I agree it's a huge risk - I'm baffled by it too - every time I've heard that it's happened again. : (

It could be someone who could have a ready alibi - I'm SO SORRY but I think my cell phone was left here and I didn't want to wake you -

On the other hand, men who do this don't seem to have any alibi at hand. They just walk in, grab the child, and leave. Strangers.
 
  • #306
Please forgive me folks but I keep thinking Caylee and Zara. I realize no evidence of a crime but sorry just a gut feeling and my mind keeps going back to those two. I pray they will find her.
 
  • #307
I would have been screaming her name so loud everybody in the neighborhood would have been out of their houses wondering what the heck was wrong.

OT: Heck, We had a bird get out and did that, lol. One of the neighbors who did not know us, four blocks over, came over and said it was in his back yard. He knew it was ours because the whole neighborhood knew we were missing a bird within minutes of it getting out! Honestly, how many parents in here would not have been screaming the lost childs name at the top of their lungs if it were their child?
 
  • #308
i find it very odd that the mother drove around for 2 hours (thats along time..)before even reporting her missing...i mean i can see if she drove around the block but 2 hours..it took that long for a reason..in my opinion..you can do alot in that amount of time..how far did she think the child could go..it doesnt make sense...first thing if she wasnt involved would be call 911.. IMO

It's not the "first thing" you do if you have a criminal past. I know this seems hard for us to believe, because I would have called 911 after a half hour - but she's kind of living below the radar, IMHO.
 
  • #309
snipped from : http://www.theintermountain.com/page/content.detail/id/546481.html

Aliayah Lunsford was last seen Saturday around 6:30 a.m. and was not in her room when her mother, Lena Lunsford, checked on her at 9:30 a.m. She was reported missing at approximately 11:30 a.m. Saturday. Since then, there have been unlimited resources utilized in investigating the case, according to Lt. Dave Parks with the sheriff's department.

Thanks for this link.

BBM: So, let me see if I have this correct:

- The mother sees Aliayah at 6:30 a.m. -- and Aliayah is sleeping.

- Then the mother goes back to bed, and the 9 year old who was sleeping in room with Aliayah gets in bed with mother. The mother "sleeps" until 9:30 a.m.

- So for 3 Hours, A's mother is "sleeping" and wakes up to check on Aliayah at 9:30 a.m. and finds her missing.

- Mother drives around for 2 hours looking for Aliayah.


Has the mother's "timeline" between 6:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. been corroborated ?

Does the mother have a "cell phone" ? "house phone" ?

Do any of the "neighbors" recall anything ?

Sorry for so many questions ... but IMO ... something is just NOT right here !

MOO ...
 
  • #310
I agree it's a huge risk - I'm baffled by it too - every time I've heard that it's happened again. : (

It could be someone who could have a ready alibi - I'm SO SORRY but I think my cell phone was left here and I didn't want to wake you -

On the other hand, men who do this don't seem to have any alibi at hand. They just walk in, grab the child, and leave. Strangers.

But in the other cases where child were kidnapped from their bedrooms, it happened during the night, when it was dark outside, and when it was almost guaranteed that everyone in the house would be sleeping. Kidnapping a child in the morning hours is even more risky since it's getting lighter out by the minute, and you run the risk of an early bird.
 
  • #311
If the mother would of said the Baby was checked on at 3:00 am and then at 6:30 am she was gone,

I would believe it more...

But 6-9 on a Morning with 5 other children.... thats hard to swallow...
 
  • #312
I keep thinking of other cases where someone DID come in, quietly, and steal a child with a house full of people.

Jessica Lunsford, CoralRose Fullwood, Polly Klaas, Danielle Van Dam, Danarrhia Finley, Elizabeth Smart, and many many others who are more controversial than these, but were likely stranger abductions in the wee hours. And then there was that girl who was CUT OUT OF A TENT on a camping trip minutes after her older sister had returned from using the bathroom, and the sister slept right through it. A pedophile was convicted, and confessed that he cut the side of the tent out to get the little girl, within about 5 minutes of the teenage sister returning from using the bathroom.

I think it's very possible that this story is what it is. That someone watched the stepdad leave, and walked into the house and got her. Especially with the new video that the mother does in fact appear to be looking for the child while driving around.


Thank you for this post. Yes, the wee hours of the morning is definately plausible. However, this 'disappearance' with Aliayah is alleged to have occured between the time step dad woke and during the time he was getting ready to head to work. Had they awoken and found Aliayah missing at 6:30 am it would be plausible. Having allededly seen her at 6:30 am and for her to be abducted from within the home between 6:30am and 9:30 am in a house full of 6 people - some already awake, well, I think the odds are better I'd have the sole winning lotto ticket with a jackpot of over 200 million.

jmo

jmo
 
  • #313
About the kidnapping theory..

On NG last night, it was mentioned that the mother watched the stepfather leave for work/said goodbye, but she stayed home and didn't leave the house (until the 2 hours she went driving around looking for Aliayah after she realized she was gone).

The house is small. I don't think someone could have came in there, with numerous other children AND the mother being home, and taken Aliayah without anyone hearing, or seeing, anything.

I really, really, really don't think that's possible. If the mother was home all morning (up until she left to go searching)..then I don't think Aliayah could have been kidnapped from the home.
 
  • #314
snipped from : http://www.theintermountain.com/page/content.detail/id/546481.html

Aliayah Lunsford was last seen Saturday around 6:30 a.m. and was not in her room when her mother, Lena Lunsford, checked on her at 9:30 a.m. She was reported missing at approximately 11:30 a.m. Saturday. Since then, there have been unlimited resources utilized in investigating the case, according to Lt. Dave Parks with the sheriff's department.

Thanks for this link.

BBM: So, let me see if I have this correct:

- The mother sees Aliayah at 6:30 a.m. -- and Aliayah is sleeping.

- Then the mother goes back to bed, and the 9 year old who was sleeping in room with Aliayah gets in bed with mother. The mother "sleeps" until 9:30 a.m.

- So for 3 Hours, A's mother is "sleeping" and wakes up to check on Aliayah at 9:30 a.m. and finds her missing.

- Mother drives around for 2 hours looking for Aliayah.


Has the mother's "timeline" between 6:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. been corroborated ?

Does the mother have a "cell phone" ? "house phone" ?

Do any of the "neighbors" recall anything ?

Sorry for so many questions ... but IMO ... something is just NOT right here !

MOO ...

I don't think Baby A was "sleeping" at 6:30. I believe she might have given her a med at that point. Then, I think Lena went back to bed, and the 9 year old came with her to bed.

Then, Lena probably got up at 8 or so, whenever the other kids began to wake but didn't check on Baby A until 9 or so.

So there's a window, when everyone is probably asleep in the house, where it seems quite possible someone snatched her.
 
  • #315
The creepy similarities of Haleigh Cummings is eating me alive on this case.


I was thinking the same thing, klj ... "creepy similarities" ...

I hope they find this little girl ... it is just so :(

MOO ...
 
  • #316
About the kidnapping theory..

On NG last night, it was mentioned that the mother watched the stepfather leave for work/said goodbye, but she stayed home and didn't leave the house (until the 2 hours she went driving around looking for Aliayah after she realized she was gone).

The house is small. I don't think someone could have came in there, with numerous other children AND the mother being home, and taken Aliayah without anyone hearing, or seeing, anything.

I really, really, really don't think that's possible. If the mother was home all morning (up until she left to go searching)..then I don't think Aliayah could have been kidnapped from the home.

Do you think it didn't happen in the cases where it's been documented? Jessica Lunsford's dachshund, normally very barky, didn't even bark when a strange man came into the home and took Jessica from the very bed the dog was asleep in.

It does happen!
 
  • #317
Has it been stated anywhere what time the stepfather left for work?
 
  • #318
i find it very odd that the mother drove around for 2 hours (thats along time..)before even reporting her missing...i mean i can see if she drove around the block but 2 hours..it took that long for a reason..in my opinion..you can do alot in that amount of time..how far did she think the child could go..it doesnt make sense..especially when she was low on gas and ran out..thats chancing driving around when she could have called someone..to drive around that low on gas i would think risking that would be for another reason..the first thing if she wasnt involved would be call 911.. IMO

It reminds me of Terri Horman's mysterious 2-hour calming-the-baby drive.

I haven't really kept totally up to date on this case, but how was the family's finances? Two hours of driving is going to be pretty spendy in the gas department (depending on the type of vehicle).
 
  • #319
Has it been stated anywhere what time the stepfather left for work?

I haven't seen it anywhere, just that it's been confirmed that he did in fact leave with the co-worker, and was at work as expected.
 
  • #320
Driving around town for two hours? Why didn't she stop and ask for help, drive by the PD? Was she finally able to borrow gas if so who from? JMOO she drove around but NOT around town probably around the country side. Don't they call West Virginia the "Wilderness State" or something like that?
 
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