Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #23

[Hyway]

I think this excuse was a ruse/part truth on the part of Gabby, as she likely did not want her father to know about the Moab DV stop. My own best guess is that BL’s parents flew him home, hoping for a break up between GP and BL, and they did in fact move some of her belongings. She was not comfortable driving the van, though, and probably wanted him to come back. So he does. Would that it were otherwise, but he does return, they check out, and the rest is tragedy. Compounded by the fact that the Moab DV stop may have afforded BL a self-defense claim for GP’s death. I suspect that is what he told his parents, anyway. It would explain lawyering up so quickly, not responding to GP’s parents, the odd early statement about how this was a difficult time for both families, etc. If they also thought he might be beginning to think about suicide, I could see them move into protect BL mode. Maybe they sadly believed him and thought that she’ll ultimately be found, but they don’t want to hurry the process because they knew he’d be the prime suspect. Idk. Moo.

I can go along with most of that, but I can't imagine anyone, not even the most protective helicopter parent, could stay silent if they thought she might be missing and he could help locate her. The only sympathy I can dredge up for the Laundries, and it ain't much, is if after they got the text from GP's mom BL told his parents that he killed her, and knowing nothing they could do now could prevent that, they went into protective mode for their son. Still reprehensible, but not as bad if they thought she might be lost and in danger but did nothing.

 

[Figuring]

I'm just pausing to say what a good & skillful video Gabby made last month, for what was to be their van life--the edits, the score, the overall vibe, etc. She had a real vision for what she wanted to achieve & share. And she had a lot of courage to embark on such a massive, imaginative undertaking--this huge trek, especially at such a young age. It takes a lot of drive, passion, bravery, & hard work to do what she was doing, & I really admire her for her talents, & for trying to bring more joy & beauty & adventure into this world.

RIP Gabby.

 

[kittythehare]

I thought her mom was stated as saying she wouldn’t have his name listed as the contact, but instead grandpa?
Either way, I’m in the opinion that Brian is the one and only POI at this point. IF any evidence is presented later to refute my thoughts, then I will gladly look at that evidence. Right now, I’m following LE’s lead, and they have stated Brian is a POI and they are searching pretty hard for him.

I would actually love for your theory to be correct, but IMO, I’ve seen too much to the contrary.

Not exactly.
What her mother said was that Gabby never referred to him as 'Stan', she called him Grandpa.
Yet in the text her mum received on 27th?? he was referred to as Stan.

 

[Wicked Strong]

My sister lives in Venice. They spend the summer in North Carolina. They all head back around the first of October. At lease my sister does. He could seriously be living in a lanai...at least at my sisters. She has a pretty nice one, where you could move away from the rain. And watch TV, get a hot shower outside... not that I think this is what he's doing, but something to think about. Edited to add: Plenty of comphy patio furniture with pillows.

During the search warrant, they did seem to spend a lot of time looking at & in the shed that was in the backyard of the parents house. Taking pictured from the outside and the inside, also measuring it. I wondered if it contained Gabby's belongings, but maybe they were looking for signs of it being occupied recently? MOO

 

[SuziQ]

I will pray for Gabby's family.

I think Gabby had a lot of potential with blogging her van life. It is gut wrenching that Brian only wanted to tear that down and to tear her down. I am reminded of a saying. You are better off by yourself than with the wrong person.

RIP Gabby.

 

[JuneRose]

I know. I was wondering if being buried or partially buried was enough in itself for the coroner to list the cause as homicide, if hypothetically the evidence from or damage to the body as far as manner is inconclusive at that time.

I’m probably not explaining my question well, sorry.

lots of thinks can cause the death to be ruled a homicide, a bashed in head from a rock or tree limb.....drag marks without signs that a animal did it, bruises, like defensive wounds, alot of stuff

 

[mlhenn]

thanks but link doesn't work

Arches park ranger warned Gabby Petito her relationship with Brian Laundrie seemed ‘toxic’

Try this one

 

[Hyway]

Where is this friend? Do we have a name? somehow to get independent confirmation?

it all sounds so vague...like vague for a reason

Its known information and widely discussed here. In fact I saw a video of her interview on this thread a hour or two ago.

 

[lab.tx]

First time poster - but l found this.

Forgive me if it’s been discussed however eyewitness neighbor briefly describes what BL and his parents how been doing past 2 weeks prior to LE showing up. A clue into his state of mind. And perhaps disassociation. Talk about cognitive dissonance or he really lied to his parents initially….Brian Laundrie's neighbor reacts to Gabby Petito homicide confirmation

Welcome!!!

 

[shelbycat]

IMO it sounds like the sister was out of the family loop on what was going on with Brian. I wonder how close she and her brother are. It’s possible the parents didn’t plan to report him missing but when his sister gave the interview and said she couldn’t talk to him, they had to act.

JMO

then why didn’t she answer the calls and texts from Gabby’s parents ca. Sept. 10?

 

[Allabouttrial]

I bet the FBI is asking for more sightings of Gabby and Brian around 8/26 - 8/30 in Grand Teton because if they can prove he was still in the area after her determined time of death, it would really cut down on the possibility that someone else did it after he left.

I am not sure how closely they can pinpoint time of death after 21+ days but I was listening to someone on one of the shows talk about how they can go further back than you'd think based on the life cycles of the flies present (like how many generations there are). I have no idea how reliable that is but I do want to learn more about it.

Apologies if someone has already said this (struggling to keep up with the thread)!

In the Sterling Koehn case they had an expert testify about how they used the gestation of the maggots and flies, found in Sterling's nappy to determine how long he'd been left alone to die in his swing. (sorry gruesome I know).

 

[GatorFL]

My sister lives in Venice. They spend the summer in North Carolina. They all head back around the first of October. At lease my sister does. He could seriously be living in a lanai...at least at my sisters. She has a pretty nice one, where you could move away from the rain. And watch TV, get a hot shower outside... not that I think this is what he's doing, but something to think about. Edited to add: Plenty of comphy patio furniture with pillows.

Northport is also a little rural. A remote house backing up to the woods? Could be.

 

[Quill]

It’s supposed to be from real estate listing photos from a house they sold four years ago—so I guess when BL was 19 and Gabby wasn’t yet on the scene.

Brian and Gabby were high school sweethearts, weren't they?

 

[carbuff]

If you look at the comments on that twitter post, people are saying that they are not evidence markers but marks for forestry rangers to cut down the trees.

That's plausible, but what about the ones that are marking rocks and downed rotting logs?

 

[PixieStix]

Makes perfect sense to me.

JMO Local LE doesn’t stay tight lipped for too long, I think the FBI might have given them a very very short leash once they took over.

Or no leash at all after there person of interest poofed into the night

I know. I was wondering if being buried or partially buried was enough in itself for the coroner to list the cause as homicide, if hypothetically the evidence from or damage to the body as far as manner is inconclusive at that time.

I’m probably not explaining my question well, sorry.

I speculate they have more evidence on the body to say it was a homicide definitively. Time will tell. I had a lengthy discussion this evening with a colleague Doctor friend, and we discussed what kind of evidence they might have or not have based on the potential condition of the body to confirm homicide. It's likely we hear the preliminary cause of death soon, but the testing and everything else will take weeks. MOO

 

[GoldfishMango]

The rocks were also sprayed orange.

I didn’t see any rocks spray painted. The pics I saw were circular numbered trees and a log. Although, you might be right. We’re the rocks also numerical as the trees were?

 

[SuziQ]

During the search warrant, they did seem to spend a lot of time looking at & in the shed that was in the backyard of the parents house. Taking pictured from the outside and the inside, also measuring it. I wondered if it contained Gabby's belongings, but maybe they were looking for signs of it being occupied recently? MOO

They had their guns drawn. Imo, they were looking for Brian and are no longer buying into the parent's lies.

 

[Wicked Strong]

Just my 2 cents…

FACTS
- Gabby was given the van at that time of the DV stop, minus BL… she could have left him at that time. LE did it that way to give her an out of the relationship with her van.
- LE handled BL the way they did because it was an interview tactic, nothing more.. no bromance..etc. Experience talking here.
- LE cannot force anyone to leave their partner, they can only make suggestions to help, which they did. It’s up to the 2 parties what they do after the police leave a scene. LE have zero control over that. Even if one or more is arrested in the incident.
- There is no factual, court based, jail records of BL being a woman abuser, only personal opinions of this. Nor is there of GP. We really don’t know who provoked who or what the interior dynamics of their relationship were. Projecting only promotes rumors.

In order to draw BL out, the public is going to have to lessen the “hate speech” so he has a reason to come out of hiding….

If the whole world said you were a woman beater that is a *** coward that murdered your girlfriend would you come out of hiding? Probably not… the FBI needs to find this guy alive to bring Gabby justice… if that means bringing the rumor mill down for her parents to get peace, then let’s do it! Let’s focus on the facts that can help FIND BL!

We are here to try to help, not gossip IMO.

But how would BL hear about hate speech if he is in the wildlife preserve?

 

[Gigi3]

Not exactly.
What her mother said was that Gabby never referred to him as 'Stan', she called him Grandpa.
Yet in the text her mum received on 27th?? he was referred to as Stan.

Thanks, kitty. So, IMO if she never referred to him as Stan, then that’s probably not how he is listed in her phone either. JMO.

 

[dtowndetective411]

Something I have been wondering that you might be able to help me with? I'm not sure if we know who the attorney was retained for? Like is it Brian specifically?
With the canceled presser after FBI contact, I was wondering if somehow it might indicate that the parents retained the lawyer and now there's potentially a conflict because they realize they might need their own lawyer, separate from his, if they're afraid of potential charges of their own (obstruction, aiding/abetting/what have you)? Is this a ridiculous reach of speculation?

I thought the same thing a few days ago re: are they sharing a lawyer