Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #26

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Ita.
The restaurant staff has confirmed it was Gabby and Brian and that there was an altercation.
Extremely disturbing in the light of what we now know.
MOO.
The only statement the restaurant made which I see is, "Yes, we can confirm Gabby and Brian were in Merry Piglets". Do you see something that adds to this?
 
If August 27th is being narrowed down as the potential day she passed, then maybe the man in the background of the youtube video "digging" wasn't actually digging but doing something far more sinister? It does not seem as though her body was found buried
 
Laundrie neighbors say Brian parents went on a camping trip 7-10 days after he returned alone in Gabby’s van.

There is nothing like lawyering up and then going camping with the family, just a regular Labor Day weekend! :eek:

Brian Laundrie's neighbors speak out amid investigation

Ita.
The restaurant staff has confirmed it was Gabby and Brian and that there was an altercation.
Extremely disturbing in the light of what we now know.
MOO.

This new piece of evidence is heartbreaking when you stack it with all the other elements we have. Its unmistakable BL was escalating. I feel so bad for poor Gabby and all women in that kind of situation. We know the most dangerous time for women in those situations is when they try to leave, and I really believe Gabby was at her breaking point and wanted out, which ultimately led to her death. We have seen this time and time again. MOO
 
Is it possible that initially, he was at the Reserve - with his backpack… he goes in and leaves his cell phone there.

Someone drives the mustang over and parks it at the Reserve.

They leave supplies, money, passport, new phone, etc… the car is picked up a day or two later, after he’s had a chance to grab everything - and he’s already off to another location…?
It is.
 
Doesn't matter whether you are married or not.

In Australia assets become shared after a certain amount of time living together.

There are good reasons behind it, as many times in the past, one half of the marriage or defacto relationship ended up with nothing, usually the female. Some after many years of contributing to expenses and doing unpaid work.


I could be wrong, but some states do do “common law marriages” which are like what you’re talking about - this is after a very long time though. MOO.
 
Yeah, I can't agree with that. If someone is the victim of a homicide, and another person took their property, that's a crime, no matter who worked on it.

I can't agree with that either! Whoever had their name on the ownership papers is the one who legally owned it. But yes, that is beside the point at this point!!!
 
People keep this narrative going because they incorrectly state the van belonged to both of them. That wouldn't hold up in court. The name on the title is the only owner. In this case it was Gabby. Her parents have stated this. Permission for Brian to drive the van ended the moment Gabby died. Imo, we will see auto theft and theft of her possessions tacked on to murder charges.
Lesson for many: It doesn't matter what effort (labor or money) you put into something, legally if you think you have ownership of something but your name isn't on the documents and the other person isn't your spouse, you have no ownership rights to it.
 
I saw this interview and they said that the camper and the camping trip happened about a week after he returned home on Sept 1 and before Gabby's parents reported her missing on the 11th. Where I am confused in the interview is if the camper was purchased after the first and if Brian was seen after this trip.

I am also not understanding this trip home in the middle of their trip. I can't find anything online about this flight home he had and why.

To help his dad move stuff into or out of storage apparently. I'm not certain if he did end up flying home and back. Struck me as odd.
 
I'm really not sure what type of evidence people think you need in a murder case. Most murders are not captured on CCTV to be played for a jury. Most cases are circumstantial. Direct evidence, like eye witness testimony, is notoriously unreliable. All the CSI-style scientific evidence is circumstantial.
I blame Matlock. And Ally McBeal. And all of the combined CSI and L&O franchises.
 
i wish we could go away from this narrative: they were in a long-term relationship. They BOTH worked on the van. They BOTH put money and sweat into it because they lived together and (IM ASSUMING) pooled resources like almost every other couple does, especially when you’re young and broke. They BOTH drove it. They BOTH lived in it. This isn’t a casual friendship where he stole the keys and took off. My husband and I have cars in each of our names but they’re OUR cars. We’d never say “don’t drive my car, it’s mine.” We are so hyper focused on him stealing her car when it’s clear it was theirs; regardless of the title.
None of that matters. Legally, he stole her van and her belongings.
 
Sounds like a Twinkie defense. Good thing I won’t be on the jury.

amateur opinion and speculation

I think most logical people on a jury would see right through most of these potential "defenses".

'I blacked out when I was murdering her' does not seem like an actual defense. It would still be murder. I don't care if he blacked out during or after. I just do not care what his state of mind was when he murdered her, if he did, because unless he is deemed legally "insane" he's still 100% at fault for her death.

I'm not a lawyer so IMO.
 
The new information from the neighbor's is interesting. It sounds credible to me. At this point I believe authorities are going over all data they have now received with a fine tooth comb.

They will learn rather quickly about phone calls received and made, bank records of withdrawals, credit cards used and for what. Everything will lead them directly to BL if he is indeed still alive.

He IMHO isn't capable to self supporting himself on the run. He needs Mommy & Daddy. When all of this comes to a final resolution, I hope they have charges thrown at them too.

If they are completely innocent then BL will have no choice but to come out of hiding and fend for himself. I don't think he's the survivalist he claims to be. He needs help in living on the run and there will be a paper trail that will catch him.

If his parents are really concerned about him they would not be in the position to continue supporting him, they will eventually have to start cooperating. I saw this because I'm sure they don't want to see him harmed or killed by authorities. JMO
 
As I always do , I’d like your thoughts on where and when or if he will be and will be found.
Earlier (few days ago) I was of the opinion he would be found suicided from a tree. My opinion has now changed. looking forward to your thoughts. TIA
They're still behaving like he's in that area; I can only assume it's based on something substantial, and not merely because of his car being there, and what his family had to say.

The passage of time doesn't really diminish the odds of him being in that area (for me), but it greatly decreases the odds that they are looking for a living person.

That area is vast, unforgiving, filled with water, and is basically a searcher's nightmare. It would probably be easy to miss a body.

My hope continues to be that he is in fact alive and on the run, but I'm really not confident that's the case.

If they don't find him in the next couple days, then there's a decent chance we're talking about this years from now, and it becomes an enduring mystery.
 
Not sure if you consider Brian helping her get a job one of those less-than-truths. In any case I agree with you. A lot of non-facts being presented as facts all around.

people have stated over and over again that he didn’t work and was living off her. We know they both worked at Public and the juice bar. We know his parents let them live in their home- assumption is to save money so they could travel. Sounds like both BL and GP were in the same boat when it came to finances and living with parents.

i can say those things as what seem to be facts of the case (i don’t know they didn’t have to pay living expenses while there) and ALSO think he is guilty of killing her. Wild how that works.
 
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