Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #27

[Mistyjks]

The final can the fbi had at the laundries when they packed up evidence before leaving was a white van exactly like that. That is LE van

Gotcha, thanks all..

 

[carbuff]

I'm off to bed. See y'all tomorrow.

 

[Midgie2]

Do we know specifically what camp site this refers to?

It’s the same day that red white and Bethune caught video of the white van at spread creek. Where she was found dead.

 

[MassGuy]

I'm starting to think LE is searching the nearby park / swamp because there is cellphone data coming from there that indicates her cellphone is there.

And that the Mustang carried the cellphone there.

Not him, I think he's in NY being hidden by family /friends/ medical issues and that's why the attorney is there because "should he be found in NY" he would need a NY attorney, not a Florida attorney

I think there's a few issues with that. These searchers have said they are looking for him, have come heavily armed, and wearing body armor.

There's really no reason to turn her phone back on, and I'd be very surprised if he still had it in the first place.

 

[borndem]

This was my exact thought too, when realizing when he went back for the van, she would have still been just laying there. Wondering if he was even remorseful at all.

Remorse, yes, because he had to clean up the van this time.

 

[uphill4downhill]

Has anyone heard any interviews or statements from friends of BL? Or friends of his parents? Or a more distant relative or acquaintance? All I've seen is GP's friends/family speaking out. Makes me wonder if he and his family don't have any connections and might be socially isolated for whatever reason. I feel like usually random people with tenuous relationships to the POI start to emerge by now to get some time in the spotlight and it just struck me as odd that I haven't heard of any of these (either pro or anti-BL). MOO

 

[wasnt_me]

Too thinking.

Gabby wasn't wearing the sandals (as they were on the ground outside the back of the van) so was she inside the van, sleeping/chilling out? Probably not, as the van looked locked up and vacant. No door or window was open.

Then was she already dead in the dirt at this point? If so, either she went out there barefoot or in different shoes.

The sandals were facing towards the van, left as they would be if someone had come back to the van.

So did BL take the sandals back once he'd killed her. We're they laying in different places in the area where he killed her?
Did Gabby try to run? It's hard to run in them, so they may have come off and scattered. BL killed her, picked up her sandals, went back to the van and then off to Snake River for a few days.

The van didn't look locked up or vacant. You can see someone closing the door in the footage.

 

[jjonez]

View attachment 314168 View attachment 314168 I’m sure this has been clarified/discussed and I am just missing it..but do the Laundries own a white van similar to Gabbys? I ask because I was just watching a msm article on what the FBI took from the Laundrie home as evidence. It’s a you tube link, and shows a still image of the FBI carrying boxes away from their home. To the agents right side (our left on the video) is a white van. I don’t recall them having one, and given the FBI is taking boxes of evidence away, the van was taken away long before the search warrant was issued? I’m so confused by this and it’s been impossible to keep up on these threads.

I saw the live feed of this. It was at the end of the day. The evidence van had been loaded earlier and already left. This white van was pulled into the driveway later. IMO LE were just loading out the equipment they had loaded in earlier that day

 

[PingTheRouter]

hello everyone

iv been working on the WS live show all afternoon, so been a little out of the loop

does anyone know what happened with In Pursuit.. watched the new episode but nothing about Gabby.. initially Walsh said it would be covered this week.. maybe they couldn't make changes before broadcast?

 

[Slamalam]

Yessss thank you, that’s what I think.

I wonder if I could, you know, donate money to the park for another camera or two… And if a bunch of people were willing to…. Jk (sort of). But so many of us feel helpless watching these events unfold and I do wish there was a way we could help.

 

[wonderboy74]

So if he is just missing and they found him they couldn’t do anything to him correct? He isn’t formally charged with anything. So they find him and he’s free to leave anyways correct? They cant throw him in jail so why even look for him if he’s not going to be detained?

 

[Herat]

I don't think BL is in Cuba or in a strange park outside of FL Maybe the Appalachian Trail , but had a lot of help getting there.

BL never does anything by himself. Someone always does it for him.

GP provided the support for the car / camping trip through the west that was the prelim to VanLife. Gabby set up VanLife and kept working on it. Not him.

He move his girlfriend into what looks like a childhood single bed room in his parents house. He did not buy the van. He did not do the IT work on the VanLife blog. He did not even (apparently) do the The Dyrt searches and updates on where they were traveling to. He drove the van and did the heavy lifting, She directed the show and where they had to be, what they had to do.

The parents took care of his problems. And still do.

I think the parents know where he is and why. I think they think that protecting him from "her" influence was needed.

Failing to collaborate with her parents when it she was missing and instead lawyering up have to be eligible for Obstruction of Justice charges.

 

[WillieMac]

So Laundrie's file a missing person report for Brian Laundrie in 3 days. For Gabby nothing.
John Walsh criticizes Florida police investigation of Gabby Petito case: 'It's pretty damn sad'

After 3 days (likely more like 7 to 14 days), the family's plan was in place and they were likely afraid that they might lose control of the narrative they were trying to control if theybwaited any longer. The family had spent a lot of time & effort to get BL relocated somewhere relatively far away without anyone seeming to have noticed. What's more, they had (seemingly?) successfully set up cover stories to make people think that BL had indeed been at the house in the days leading up to when he [supposedly] went missing there in the Reserve - and that he was possibly/likely still there. I would imagine that it took some coordination and effort and lost sleep & also a little luck for them to have engineered the story about how the Mustang was left at the Reserve & ended up with a note from LE asking for it to be moved and all of that baloney. At that point in time (where BL had supposedly been missing for 3 days), if they hadn't made some sort of statement, LE & others may have started asking questions the family couldn't easily answer. So rather than allow that to happen, the family decided that that was the best time to move to their next "misdirection initiative". By pivoting from a family that just didn't know what was happening, to a family that was in despair for their missing son and was sorry that they hadn't reported what his intentions may have been earlier, they (again) controlled the narrative and redirected LE's efforts & attention from a need to figure out what was going on with BL & family & where he might be, to an all-in effort to find BL in this one place where they knew that he was *NOT*. I mean really, how would LE find the answers to the questions they should have been getting answers to if they instead dedicate the majority of the resources they have into a search effort at this one place where the family knows that he is not.

The Laundries have been controlling this entire nightmare for too long. It's time for LE to get in front of them, push some boundaries, and take control.

This is all (hopefully *obviously*) My Opinion Only! And it is not at all meant to cast negative judgement on any LE orgs. I completely understand how these events gave come to play out the way they have. But I will also maintain my opinion that it's time for LE to control the situation rather than be lead where someone wants them to be. I feel like that is already happening though too, so that's a good start!

 

[Here_I_Am]

So if he is just missing and they found him they couldn’t do anything to him correct? He isn’t formally charged with anything. So they find him and he’s free to leave anyways correct? They cant throw him in jail so why even look for him if he’s not going to be detained?

An arrest warrant that they won't make public until he's captured.

 

[Lillymac]

Hmmm. All of that make darn good sense. What a plan, but I'll bet BL didn't dream it up. If he got on a plane or train asap, he shouldn't have had any trouble with getting tickets or being recognized, etc. Thus the NY attorney. Hmmmm. People do talk, however. Who knoze -- the FBI could also be there...
Good post, Herat!

I heard on Fox one of the hosts say that as soon as he went missing a travel alert one have been placed on him by the FBI.

 

[Midgie2]

If I was the fbi I’d shut off water and electricity at the reserve. If Brian is using it he won’t be able to anymore.

Is this a nature preserve that has a type of rest area with bathrooms?

 

[JayWill]

Here's another article about the restaurant incident :

Influencer saw 'huge blowout' between Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie at Wyoming restaurant | Daily Mail Online

While dining at the restaurant, they overheard a loud conversation in which another customer was heard screaming at wait staff in what appeared to be an argument over the check.
Angelo said that the man involved in the dispute displayed ‘aggressive’ body language.
The man left the restaurant and then returned around four times, she said. Afterward, a young woman who was with the man came into the restaurant and apologized to wait staff for his behavior.
Angelo says Petito was 'hysterically crying' and 'walked out.'
'She was crying as she was standing on the sidewalk and I was watching the whole thing unfold,' according to Angelo.
'And he walked back in the restaurant and he's fighting with the hostess.'
Emphasis mine.

Take the article with the proverbial 'grain' considering the source.
But this is my take on it :
BL might have been coming increasingly unhinged and frustrated about not being in control over the trip or something else.
He was --imo-- unraveling.

How I wish Gabby had bolted while at a public place and called her mom or dad.

Stall BL for a while while one of her parents could drive or fly there.
From another article it sounded like she was online in a coffee shop (?) one day for as much as 8 hours, for her online Vlog and store ?
Pretend to do that and call someone.
Get the heck out of there.

I have to add I wonder if he confiscated or controlled her phone and so he'd know whom she was contacting ?
Sorry I just wish this had turned out differently.
My guess is that she didn't know how bad it was getting.
MOO.

This makes me so sad. Something has gone on in Gabby's life that makes her feel that this behavior is somehow something that she has to apologize for.

 

[Born2BWild]

I have a question I hope can make clear! Obviously the shift between POI & suspect requires a certain degree of evidence. Perhaps w BL there is not yet enough evidence. However.

When there could be enough evidence for this shift, does it have to occur? Do they have to declare it? & m, if not, are there strategic advantages to not changing the status (even if the evidentiary threshold is met)?

When I was listening to Dan Abrams, legal consultant for CNN say police could easily upgrade his status to ‘suspect’ but by keeping his status as a POI, being a more conservative approach, gives the appearance of not rushing to judgement and helps the prosecution fend off defense accusations of not looking for more suspects if this goes to trial. It’s a little bit of a game that changes nothing about how committed they are to finding him. And arresting him for murder if they do. We’re watching the manhunt when LE is also launching an intense investigation putting together all the leads and building a pretty tight timeline. IMO.

 

[Figuring]

There are game cams in the Preserve. Maybe they had a sighting.

JMO

Puzzles I’m wondering something based on this. If they sighted him in the reserve, wouldn’t there be a upper limit to how far he could have gotten on foot since the sighting? In other words, wouldn’t he then be relatively easy find based on the possible radius? I’m not at all doubting what you say, in fact it makes a lot of sense, I’m just wondering how he would be so able to hide (it might be survivalist things I don’t know about!)

 

[PingTheRouter]

I heard on Fox one of the hosts say that as soon as he went missing a travel alert one have been placed on him by the FBI.

just a detain and question or detain and hold

they can do that without naming him a suspect im pretty sure, so if he tried to cross a border or get out via a port they would pick him up