Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #29

[whirrledpeas]

Well, I'm confused because I thought it was originally saying that GP was very apologetic during the incident.
So, was she at the restaurant with him or not?

Yes she was. The headline is misleading. LE are now working off of a last sighting of 8/27 instead of 8/24, which is the three days later the headline refers to. Very poorly worded headline.

 

[tokyorose]

I really hope (but doubt) that at least one of the officers faces consequences for his actions that day. Be those inflicted by his department or preferably his own conscious.

What should or could the officer do in that situation? Should Gabby have been arrested? They had no reason to arrest Brian? Legally what could any of the officers that day have done? Gabby was an adult woman who was traveling with Brian of her own free will. It's an honest question, did the officers have any legal recourses open to them other than what they did which was to separate the two for the night?

 

[jamicat]

Calvin Lewis (FOX4 Now) @CalvinLewisTV via Twitter – 12:54PM 9/23
Meanwhile: As search for #BrianLaundrie continues at Carlton Reserve, this is the current scene outside the Laundrie Family home.

After being towed Monday, the silver Mustang is back. The red pickup is gone and, so too it seems, are Brian’s parents. #GabbyPetito
@Fox4Now

And so is it their right to go. Probably because of media and others stalking them and watching every move at the house. LE likely know where they are

 

[ArmChairDet]

Wow - interesting info regarding Florida Law and "Accessory after the Fact". The provision has a ""related person exemption" and therefore parents cannot be charged with accessory after the fact. Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Yes, I watched an interview on Youtube with a former Miami prosecutor. It does not look like there is much that they can be charged with. They were grasping at straws.

If any wants to see the interview, I will post the keywords instead of a link. Its on youtube and quite good.

Former Miami-Dade County prosecutor on Laundrie's disappearance

However, I wonder if all the Florida law applies in a federal case.

 

[Noharg]

Well, I'm confused because I thought it was originally saying that GP was very apologetic during the incident.
So, was she at the restaurant with him or not?

Brian Laundrie's 'restaurant meltdown' was THREE DAYS after last reported sighting of Gabby Petito | Daily Mail Online

 

[borndem]

Not doubting you, but I can't spot it.

ETA Now I see something red in backseat but I can't tell if it's a duffle bag or not.

I did see a small spot of red in the jump seat...

 

[blueberryjam]

I think right now if any reward were to be offered, it should be for finding BL. Like where is he?


Autopsy clearly states it’s a homicide. Whether it was an accidental homicide or not, we don’t know. But homicide it is. Gabby did not just trip over a tree root and hit her head and die. She did not hang herself. Someone did something that killed her.

BL’s parents learned something that got them to get a lawyer involved and they held steadfast refusing to say anything, and they did things as “normal”. Something an attorney would advise in this situation. We don’t know when or why they got the lawyer and likely will never know for sure.

MOO—I do not believe BL intended to kill Gabby. So, I do not think there is anything in that house that would implicate anyone there. Also, in the event there was, they had plenty of time to dispose of it. So, they had no problems with LE searching their house. Likely, part of what they had to allow when they filed the endangered missing persons report on their son. I do believe they were and are very worried about him. I also believe they are sick about the possibility he killed him self or otherwise come to harm or death. I guess poetic justice in a sense, because Gabby’s parents were in that predicament not too long ago with their worst fears realized.

Oh i don't think she killed herself or tripped and hit her head. By accident I mean, he hit her with the car when trying to abandon her, or hit her in an argument and she died. I don't think he intended to kill her because he didn't flee straight away. He could of been on a beach in Mexico before her parents were even suspicious.

I do not think he is the mastermind some of the internet are making out. And I do not think that normal people are capable of creating all these red herrings and diversions for their sons escape without making a mistake with a google search or the like. The fact they are free and walking around, and the FBI are taking the story of the reserve so seriously makes me inclined to think the FBI believe them for whatever reason.

There is also a possibility that their house has been tapped during the search. Not sure of the USA laws, but they did this in the UK with parents whose children died in a fire. And they caught them cause they were tapped discussing it in their kitchen. Again no idea regarding the legalities of this in Florida, but I assume if the law allows, this may have been an avenue. Also the fact they paused the search due to exhausting all avenues, then went to the parents house and assumed questioned them, the search was ramped up times 10 the following day.

 

[LMDlong]

Has it been confirmed whether BL owned a gun? , if he does did he take it on their trip? I seen the picture of his bedroom , to me the gun hanging didn’t look real but it could be.

 

[jamicat]

Yes, I watched an interview on Youtube with a former Miami prosecutor. It does not look like there is much that they can be charged with. They were grasping at straws.

If any wants to see the interview, I will post the keywords instead of a link. Its on youtube and quite good.

Former Miami-Dade County prosecutor on Laundrie's disappearance

However, I wonder if all the Florida law applies in a federal case.

Doubt they can be successfully criminally charged. They were following attorney’s advice very carefully.

 

[tokyorose]

Maybe the RV family, but not sure how the restaurant couple helped. They had already found her body and their info wouldn’t have helped lead to it. Unfortunately it’s not illegal to be a jerk in a restaurant so their info wouldn’t help lead to any sort of conviction. moo.

Narrowing down the time of death is important in a murder investigation. With this new evidence/testimony, LE knows that Gabby was alive at 1pm on August 27 and there is a witness that can testify that BL was not in control of his emotions at the time and was behaving unreasonably.

 

[Veronica Sawyer]

Hey all, I have a hypothetical..

Yesterday I was reading in some MSM articles about BL's social media and they were trawling through past posts of his and picked up on a post of his about 'autistic burnout'.

"About five weeks ago, a post in a folder titled “Bleak” referred to the book “Burnt Out: How to Cope with Autistic Burnout,” according to the news outlet."

You can read it here: Brian Laundrie alleged cryptic messages on Pinterest

My question is.. If it is indeed the case that BL is autistic or on the spectrum in some way, does anyone know if there has been previous legal precedent where this has been used as a defence in a criminal case?

Could a defence lawyer argue, for example, that BL was not culpable on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to an autism diagnosis?

Hypotheticals and MOO

If that sort of argument was even possible I would think the defendant would've needed to go about things a lot differently than Brian has from the get-go. I imagine the fact that he’s gone MIA takes a lot of arguments for defense off the table. That alone is gonna be a tough thing to explain. /JMO

 

[Bopit]

I was thinking,


BL's anger and differences to the social media objective were too much. IMO from the anger examples and actions, it seems like he no longer wanted any part of their adventure and directed that anger towards GP or as we have seen, wait staff or anyone.

This caught my attention because I feel the opposite. Gabby was trying to build a community but her posts were incredibly short and not very "influencer-y" She was crying about how stressed she was about social media and "making it work" and they'd been travelling for weeks before the first youtube video went up. My belief is he was upset with how she was doing things, and that's why her latest Insta posts are all written/edited by what seems to be BL. His posts have been long and drawn out and narcissistic. He wants to be seen. He wants to be tagged.He wants brand deals. They were also fighting over her phone, so maybe he was trying to change her posts and make it more "influencer" and that caused a lot of tension and was why she felt like she was at fault when the police pulled over. I'd feel so silly crying to the police over social media posts so I think they didn't go into greater detail because she wanted to be taken seriously. MOO

 

[wasnt_me]

I was thinking,

Like many, the trip back to Florida for BL doesn't add up.
Heres some possibilities I have thought of..
- Having mental issues - that we don't know much about. It has been stated that he hears voices.
- Storage unit, possible. I don't think we know the real reason behind that. Could be that they are short on space in the house. No basements, etc in Florida, and the parents blew up about storage. They moved from somewhere. There is a good possibility that they downsized.
- While we have little picture of all the data. It seems like a missing time. We know nothing of BL's actions, and GP was in a hotel room for a week. A week of solitude is a lot for a 22 year old (a whole vacation for many), with no friends or family there. I would have thought there would have been a lot of contact with family and friends, and a lot of social media post. I realize that a lot of trip logs come out edited months after the trip, however, usually there are personal posting.

Here is a scenerio that I see possible
- They broke up before he left or when he returned.
- GP, and to a point BL were all in on this trip. No jobs, sold belonging, and had no other plans. This is what tied them together.
- GP plans on being a social media influencer depended on the love and adventure brand she was creating. She had probably pictured it for a while.
- They decided to finish the trip in a facade as a couple. I believe her mother stated that they were no longer engaged. If being engaged was part of the story, I can see them keeping up the charade. You get better treatment from business etc, when engagement is anounced. I remember unrequested free tabs, champaign in hotels etc.

BL's anger and differences to the social media objective were too much. IMO from the anger examples and actions, it seems like he no longer wanted any part of their adventure and directed that anger towards GP or as we have seen, wait staff or anyone.

My wife had the idea, too bad she didn't change the social media objective, in the middle. Start with the love and adventure. Turn to realism - the love and relationship failed, and turn it in to a single girl on adventure, or have the BFF be the replacement for the last half. Probably would have been a great story and followed.

MOO

I'd like to know how we know she was in a hotel for a week. I know the hotel said when she checked out (with Brian there), but did they say when she checked in? If it was just her?

If she and Brian broke up and he left, why would she go to a hotel? She needs to start driving home or getting her data to give her a plane ticket instead of a pizza.

I'd think she would have told her parents if it was a breakup. But I would also think her parents would be talking about it if this man just left her alone for a week, returned, and then she was missing ten days later. Wouldn't the family be talking about him being back in Florida if it had happened? I find it hard to believe she would sit in a hotel room alone for a week and not tell her family about it when they called.

I think her father ordered pizza on the 21st. She or Brian finally posted on Tik Tok then, too, for the first time in a few weeks. GP had told the police that she was working really hard and he didn't believe in her. So I think after that fight, and they weren't producing videos, maybe they decided to take a break from the trip and let her work in comfort in a hotel for a day or two or three. Was he with her? I don't know.

 

[dacjess]

For people catching up, facts that can be corroborated in media thread:

- GP is dead
- BL is missing and a person of interest
- GP/BL were seen in a cafe on Aug. 27
- GP’s death has been classified a homicide, cause of death not yet released
- GP’s van was taken from BL’a home in FL after she was last seen
- GP’s grandfather’s name is Stan
- LE has said they are searching the reserve due to BL’s parents saying that is where he was going (if they have other information it hasn’t been released)
- there are two separate stone crosses… one was placed at the place her body was found by her stepfather

A comprehensive timeline is at the beginning of this thread and in the media thread.

 

[10ofRods]

“In conversation about hiking … Brian talked about the longest time that he spent in the woods was 6 weeks and bragged about only having a large pack of either cheese or peanut butter crackers to sustain him for that time,” the source told The Post in a text.
Brian Laundrie 'well versed' in surviving in the wilderness

He does appear to be very thin/lean, disguised by his general use of oversized, baggy clothing.

Some of his outfits seem to have been specifically chosen for photo ops in red rock country in Utah, IMO. The shorts he's wearing in the Canyonlands pictures really match and even line up with the striated geology in the area. I've seen this before in the Insta-crowd (it's apparently almost a requirement for those who are going to pose at Horseshoe Bend or at Grand Canyon). Personally, I would guess that Gabby chose those outfits. Her own way of dressing is very up-to-date for what young women Instagrammers are wearing/styling themselves this season. But I do think Brian would want his clothing to be baggy, where ever he is, so it's something to look out for.

At any rate, I do believe he could go for a while without much food and we would have thought him to be very thin if he had been dressed in sizes that were more fitted. I have mentioned before that he might be what we call a "walker" in informal language. These are people (almost always male) who end up in the homeless population but are very hard to help/treat/study because their main activity is walking place to place, eating almost nothing. We have a number of them walking up and down the nearly dry river bed not too far from my house (I actually think I recognized a missing person amongst them, but LE can never locate the guy and others have called him in, not just me).

To say that walkers are elusive is an understatement.

 

[dacjess]

Doubt they can be successfully criminally charged. They were following attorney’s advice very carefully.

Just curious but how do we know what the lawyer’s advice to the family is?

 

[Midgie2]

Agreed. MOO BL doesn't have the kind of anger that makes him want to fight with anyone at anytime. It makes him want to fight with anyone he can dominate.

True. But, he’s also 23. in my experience they can get more bold with age.

 

[wasnt_me]

This caught my attention because I feel the opposite. Gabby was trying to build a community but her posts were incredibly short and not very "influencer-y" She was crying about how stressed she was about social media and "making it work" and they'd been travelling for weeks before the first youtube video went up. My belief is he was upset with how she was doing things, and that's why her latest Insta posts are all written/edited by what seems to be BL. His posts have been long and drawn out and narcissistic. He wants to be seen. He wants to be tagged.He wants brand deals. They were also fighting over her phone, so maybe he was trying to change her posts and make it more "influencer" and that caused a lot of tension and was why she felt like she was at fault when the police pulled over. I'd feel so silly crying to the police over social media posts so I think they didn't go into greater detail because she wanted to be taken seriously. MOO

I think this is the right track. It was about her work, but I think she was behind. Maybe she wasn't editing videos fast enough, etc. There were no videos being produced. That's what I see. and I can't imagine how hard it is to try to be "cool" and fun all day while filming. You can't enjoy the outdoors or your trip because you're too busy trying to get "the shot."

That trip had to be miserable.

 

[dtowndetective411]

His neighbors reported they’d recently seen brian on a family bike ride. Did they check for a bicycle missing from the laundrie house? If on bike, he could’ve traveled much farther without looking sketchy or identifiable walking alone down a road…

 

[JuliaGoolia]

Looking for original source
ETA Ok so i cant find the original source and I dont know if I can post it but it looks like a call log from the North Port PD for BL address. Can I post?