Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #29

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

With 2 people entirely dependent on this vehicle, I would clearly have 2 keys, one for each of us.

I would probably not have a hide-a-key

Agree, I rodeo by myself and travel hours from home, overnights, etc. I keep a spare truck key in my LQ and a spare LQ key in my truck.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Wow, impressive! Maybe it will become an example for police training elsewhere. Or could motivate precincts to mandate DV training/psychology.

I think the officers have come in for unfair criticism. I believe they acted fairly and professionally under the circumstances.

We should remember that they did NOT have that thing that all of us have now...

Hindsight.

MOO

 

[Mike in WNY]

The photo isn't clear enough for me, I actually thought the mask was a beard for a second.

No doubt. So many of these "sighting" photos look like they were taken with a potato!

 

[Pippi77]

Have we had any verification yet that he actually went home for a week? I know Gabby's mom thought he did, but I was wondering if the neighbors said anything about seeing him home that week.

I am only finding the quote from the mom in the DailyMail, a tabloid paper.

 

[passionflower]

Just a question for van owners. Can a van hit something and not have damage? Wondering if she could if hit her or run over her? JMOO

 

[OtisC]

Can we all just take a moment for any skinny, balding man with facial hair that isn’t BL at this time.

It is probably a record sales week for toupees and shaving cream.

 

[CLGM]

What in the world..

I was thinking it might be a traffic accident on 75, not related to this case.

 

[ab-initio]

Looking for an MSM confirmation that BL flew home for a period of time during their trip -- anyone?

It seems incongruent to me that someone who has been described by GP's best friend to have control issues, and has the overall optics of being an abusive narcissist would leave GP for a period of nearly a week. "Allowing" her to have her own experiences absent of him seems like atypical behaviour, so I'm curious if this trip has been confirmed to have happened (for whatever reason) or is spiraling conjecture.

maybe he’s on meds and has a psych appt. could be any number of reasons that he needed to go back home.

I'm not asking WHY he went home ... I'm looking for a sourced confirmation that he WENT HOME.

 

[soylattesandsleuthing]

Your post was so hard to assimilate, @I wonder, because of the triggers it set off for me.

But seeing the proverbial tree through my own forest of trauma, I think you nailed it!

Since this case is very emotional for a lot of people for a lot of different reasons, do you all think perhaps—when we speculate in graphic detail—we should include a “trigger warning” at the beginning of the post?

 

[whirrledpeas]

honestly - he has such a 'common' look - there are going to be way more false sightings than real ones. IMO. Gabby's look was much more unique and distinctive. I pass guys that look like BL at LEAST once a week.

My cousin has already had three people tell him he going to be mistaken for BL. I’d post a pic of him because it’s uncanny but I’d rather not have someone see it and mistake it for a sighting. It’s a very common look indeed.

 

[TheGardener]

When did BL's parents hire their lawyer? On what day?

 

[x_files]

At this point, numerous professionals in the field of psychology, including a forensic psychologist, as well as advocates who work directly with victims of domestic violence have attested that Gabby was displaying very typical characteristics of “reactive violence” or “reactive abuse”.

This is what we used to call “battered women’s syndrome”. Nobody doubts the ability of a thin, small framed female to inflict damage on a large male. But that isn’t what is happening here. Gabby says Brian grabbed her face just above her throat in the police video. That’s one step above strangulation. Holding onto somebody’s face like that screams “I can control you. I can kill you”. It’s an extremely threatening maneuver.

Regardless of what evidence comes to light, Gabby, as the deceased party, is indisputably the victim.

THANK YOU!!!

 

[Katerz]

That's Florida Patrol.... Hmmm

Is that who it is??

 

[NuttMegg]

New here so please excuse, there's no possible way I could dive through 30 pages prior so if any of this was rehashed, I appologize in advance.

As a preface, I want to state that I take no position on whether Brian committed murder or not. I simply think we do not possess enough evidence right now to condemn a man's life. Now that he is missing and could possibly be suicidal, I especially take pains to avoid judging his life. That's for a jury to decide, not me. Or social media.

I won't go into a longwinded post and I'll try to keep it as short and concise as I can, but a few things bug me about this case:

1. Despite many people trying to place their ex's face on Brian, the body cam and witness statements only confer that they were in a physically toxic relationship. Gabby, the witness Christopher, and Gabby's friend Rose all confirm that Gabby assaulted Brian. The 911 call and body cam show Brian would fight back. People seem to be all about DV here, but refuse to acknowledge that a small blonde girl could very easily be the aggressor sometimes. Even if she is not alive anymore.

2. Brian returning home without Gabby. While I get the whole "going about your daily life to appear innocent", both Brian and his family's actions during the time when he first returned home with the van did not appear to be people pretending. If you know your son committed murder and has something to hide, you're not sending him out to mow the lawn. Idk, that just seems weird to me. Almost as if Brian thought everything was fine at that point. That would imply that Brian and Gabby agreed to part ways - and the only way I can see someone leaving their S.O. in the middle of nowhere is when they're being left with someone they both know and trust. (more on that later)

3. The Aug 27/30th texts. If you just killed someone, and are pretending to be them, you don't make the mistake of texting them their grandfather's first name. There would be no reason for Brian to even message the mother about GP's grandfather. You'd want to have as little interaction as possible, I'd assume. Also, with all the planning GP and BL were doing with where they were going, and given their current location, making the mistake of saying Yosemite seems off as well. I know people get the two confused, but I'd imagine that would be after the fact upon recollection, and not while on the actual trip when you're right near Yellowstone. These were pretty glaring and suspect mistakes. Almost too glaring. Do I subscribe to the whole "Stan = send the authorities now"? I can't say. The wording is definately strange, and can be read as "Can you help send the authorities now...". That could imply a third person being involved.

4. Speaking of third person, now that police have announced there are no ties between the lesbian couple and GP case, people seem to have just forgotten that someone actually murdered those 2 poor women, which means there is a killer in the moab area. Gabby, and these two women aren't the only ones to go missing in the past few months in the moab area. Ty Erick Harvey also was reported missing on August 30th, 2021 in Moab. There was another man missing in June of this year in Moab but for the life of me I cannot find the article anywhere now that it's been drowned out in the sea of news reports with any keywords related to it bringing me back to GP case instead.

Grand County Sheriff seeking info on man missing from Moab area | Gephardt Daily

5. The fact that Brian is still listed as a person of interest, as opposed to a suspect, could be very telling of what evidence (or lackthereof) the police have to actually link him to her death. Either they think he's dead (which I doubt highly considering the efforts they're still putting forth) or they do not have enough evidence to charge him. Even after the autopsy? That potentially leads back to either an accident or third party.

6. Rose. Has anyone else heard reports that Brian's Instagram has been following and unfollowing Rose Davis, GP's alleged bff? Rose gives me bad vibes. Not only does she look exactly like GP in terms of size, shape, eyes and hair, but she came forward to the dailymail making statements that I found to be odd. For instance, Rose reported that Brian would set up hammocks for her and GP, but would not sit with them at the beach - preferring to sit alone. To me that sounds like someone who is uncomfortable being around Rose and GP at the same time. Why? Rose also stated she believes GP loved BL and BL loved GP.. but then went on to recount a time when BL stole GP's ID to stop her from going out dancing with Rose. According to her, GP came home and physically assaulted BL for this. She called it jealousy, but that's one sided. Could she have been a bad influence? Drugs? Could she have previously had a "thing" with GP that BL found out about and he was trying to do what was in GP's best interest? Why would Rose have a tracking app on GP's phone if she hung out with the both of them? Especially after only knowing GP for a year? I know a lot can happen in a year, but that just seems weird. Rose also stated that GP's friends back in NY were "bullying" her about GP staying with BL. Odd choice of words to describe friends trying to "look out" for their friend. Why would they "bully" her if Rose herself said they loved each other?

I have a whole bunch of other theories (or moreso questions) regarding Rose, but until we get more evidence they may as well just be wild conspiracy theories. Are police so focused on BL that they've ignored Rose's locations on her phone? Could she have met up with BL/GP after all? Did BL leave GP with Rose? Was there some sort of triangle going on? I mean, they both look alike, so it's not too far fetched to think BL might have been attracted to her. Going further down that rabbit hole, could Rose have been the one who checked out of the hotel that last time and not GP? That could potentially explain the Yosemite text.. and why Brian drove back to FLA and carried on as if nothing was wrong, not reporting her missing because he didn't think she was missing. If BL/Rose did have something going on, it would explain the reports of his Instagram following and unfollowing her during the time he's been missing. If any of these have been answered via evidence that I've missed please feel free to correct me.

I have a bad feeling the truth of this case is going to be much more complicated than people are claiming it to be. There are too many strange occurrences. I realize Occam's Razor says BL is not speaking, so he most likely had a hand in the death, given what we know. It's what we don't know that has me questioning all of this.

Edit: I definitely went more longwinded than I intended but tried to keep each point to at least a few sentences to get the full point across... apologies!

BBM Not true. The 911 call reports to police that BL was assaulting Gabby on the sidewalk, hitting and slapping her. That is the first report we've heard of that day. Christopher's report came after the 911 call. The body cam does not "show that Brian would fight back".

 

[Mike in WNY]

Occam's Razor, the simplest solution is almost always the best

Ahhhh.... but one has to know all the options/solutions before one can say which is the simplest.

 

[MLaps]

No doubt. So many of these "sighting" photos look like they were taken with a potato!

Or my mom took it with an old Nokia.

 

[x_files]

Occam's Razor, the simplest solution is almost always the best

In this case I absolutely agree.

 

[Mom24]

Interesting:

Search teams for #BrianLaundrie now looking at a specific area: “We’ve teamed up, we’ve broke them into different groups to do a line search and a grid search throughout a specific area in the #CarltonReserve,” said NPPD Commander Joe Fussel.

Well, let's hope Brian is finally going to be found.

 

[10ofRods]

It's my understanding that per Laundrie neighbors across the street, the camper was loaded and the parents & Brian left on Sept 11th, after Gabby was reported missing & after Gabby's van was seized.... and returned to Laundrie's home Mon 9/13.

Brian Laundrie's neighbors speak out amid investigation

If Brian's parents took him somewhere & were physically with him on 9/13 @ the time of their atty's call... https://twitter.com/nikthehat/status/1440838557954760705
Imo, that's a HUGE radius clue as to where Brian was on 9/13 or could still could be.
Cell phone records & pings should place Brian & his parents at the time of attorney Steven Bertolino's call.

I don't believe the parents.. not one ounce.
I don't think Brian is in the swamp.

I 100% think Brian intentionally disappeared via that camper on the 9/11-9/13 family camping trip with 100% help from his parents.
I 100% think mom & pop are all-in on a last minute planned on-the-run-in-hiding gig and are fully complicit in the cover-up.

I completely agree. And yes, the radius is quite large - so I'm prepared to wait here for Brian to be found sometime in the next year or two, sadly. I do think if he is in or around public lands, eventually, someone will recognize him - although I think we websleuthers can help by pointing out how his appearance might change. If he grows a full beard, for example and changes his eyebrow shape and stops shaving his head and dyes his hair a lighter color, etc., etc. But if he's on trail a long time, his hair will be dark again, IMO. And most of us can recognize a dye job.

I've interviewed men who spent full time living up and down the Rockies (from Canada to Mexico), without having a home and with a very small kit. They did know how to trap. My best friend did an entire study on these "mountain men." The man I interviewed said he would go for months without talking to anyone, deliberately avoiding people on trail and staying off trail a good part of the time. There are some missing person cases among this group of full time "mountain men," in which some of their kit has been found - and it's thought they are now deceased. It's obviously risky, but one park ranger told me that he thought the missing mountain man had fallen into a creek at high run-off, while collecting water because his water container was found nearby, but he wasn't. His backpack was also found nearby. But we will never know for sure - and no one thinks the guy intentionally died. He was actually not too far into the back country and was not a year round mountain man, but he spent most of his time in the mountains. I know several people who have done this, but it gets harder as people age.

At any rate, no one knows how many of these people are up in the mountains or what happens to most of them. The tradition in the mountains is to use nicknames, no one uses their real names (and personally, I regard any attempts by others to find out more about me when I'm hiking to be either annoying or scary).

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I am just thinking out loud, or in print so to speak.

• Is there any particular reason Brian Laundrie is not referred to by name in the seeking information poster put out by the FBI of Gabby's? He is always referred to as her boyfriend. GABRIELLE PETITO — FBI

• Brian is not listed on the FBI site for Missing or Wanted or Seeking info using his name - Most Wanted — FBI

• Brian is not listed in NAMUS, The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

• Brian is not listed in Florida Missing and Endangered Florida Missing Endangered Persons Search, criteria to be included here:

The Missing Endangered Persons Information Clearinghouse (MEPIC) operates in accordance Florida Statute 937.022.
Per statute, MEPIC may accept missing person's cases that meet the following criteria:

• Any missing child who is seventeen (17) years of age or younger; or
• Any missing adult who is between the ages of 18-25; or,
• Any missing person 26 years of age or older who is suspected by law enforcement of being endangered or the victim of criminal activity.

• Brian is listed in the Florida Crime Info Center under Missing: Missing Persons

Name: LAUNDRIE, BRIAN CHRISTOPHER
Nicknames:
Aliases:
Missing Person Circumstances:
Reporting Agency: NORTH PORT POLICE DEPARTMENT
Agency Case #: 21-054011
Date of Last Contact: 09/14/2021
Date of Birth: 11/18/1997
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Height: 5' 08"
Weight: 160
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Scars, Marks, Tattoos: TATTOO, HAND, NONSPECIFIC
Occupation:
Last Known Address City and State: NORTH PORT FLORIDA​