Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #32

[kspoon45]

If that were the case wouldn't it stand to reason that more people in that area would have seen or heard something and come forward by now? That camping area was full. Thats why red, white and bethune turned around and left

No, I don't think so. Obv. we have one homicide (Gabby) that occurred with no one noticing or hearing anything. There were others just a week before with no witnesses, so no, I do not agree that there's reason to believe that something would have been seen/heard.

 

[customCF]

No, nor me. I'd have hidden a body deep in the forest.

I can't believe he left Gabby just a few hundred metres/yards/feet from the van, but here's why I think he did:

It makes me think the murder wasn't planned, and he lost his temper, more so than usual, went berserk and he killed her pretty much where she was found.

If it was cold, calculated and planned, he'd have hidden her body deep in the forest, or elsewhere.

And he obviously didn't want to move her body, because the 2 vehicles that came along while the van was parked up scared him off and he was afraid he'd be witnessed.

I wonder if they set up their tent over there. Out of the way and secluded for privacy

 

[JMI]

Snipped for focused reply...
Or paid someone to secret him off somewhere via fishing boat, or?

Amateur opinion and speculation

That would depend on where it was used. Paying someone in Benton, IL certainly wouldn't get you on a boat in FL. Also, people that "disappear" other people aren't known to accept debit cards as means of payment.

Still thinking he emptied the accounts, and with $200-$300 withdrawal limits, he would have had to do it over multiple days, speaking to an intentional act to cover his tracks.

 

[SDFinColo]

Good morning everyone. Since BL was charged in federal court, it really would make sense that any subsequent charges of BL (or anyone else who may have been involved even after-the-fact) would also be charged federally.

18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact

 

[Bertha96]

It speaks volumes if only local LE is searching the reserve and the FBI is not (as mentioned earlier in this thread). That means they see the reserve as something other than his current location IMO. Someone else mentioned local LE could have been tasked with recovering evidence from the reserve which makes sense.

 

[blueberryjam]

Guilt after yo commit a major crime, makes you feel like you are wanted for a crime, because its inevitable.

Fear brought Brian back home where he sought guidance from his parents.

Parents probably wanted a little involvement as possible. The plan unfolded over time, it wasn't schemed out on a whiteboard over 3 days and 3 nights staying up all night drinking redbull. Real estate lawyer was a family friend; a proxy lawyer until BL was gone / caught.

Ok great, but according to a lot, they did scheme and set up this very elaborate, improbable escape plan, when he literally could just buy a plane ticket or drive to the border at the time. He could have livestreamed the entire trip for all LE were concerned.

 

[mompalm]

I think it is WFLA's news chopper:

Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) / Twitter


Our affiliate
@WFLA
has their chopper up now over the reserve. There is a temporary flight restriction -- law enforcement now keeping the news chopper at 1200 feet instead of 400 feet.

I wonder if that's more due to LE's use of drones rather than trying to keep anyone from seeing/recording the scene below?

Just my opinion

 

[customCF]

They very well may have just wanted the camper and it’s completely irrelevant. Why purchase a camper for probably a few grand at least when they could rent a uhaul truck or trailer or a plain old enclosed utility trailer even, or a rental suv, and get supplies and BL out of town that way. In the scenario of using it to get him out of town, they are left with an expensive piece of evidence clogging up their driveway. There are lots of cheaper ways to get stuff out of town. I highly doubt they’d be loading tons of survival stuff in their driveway, anyway. They would go out of town to purchase things and hit the road.

It is strange, there are better ways to move stuff if it's needed to be out of sight. Maybe they planned on sticking that camper somewhere but thought better of it for some reason

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

No, nor me. I'd have hidden a body deep in the forest.

I can't believe he left Gabby just a few hundred metres/yards/feet from the van, but here's why I think he did:

It makes me think the murder wasn't planned, and he lost his temper, more so than usual, went berserk and he killed her pretty much where she was found.

If it was cold, calculated and planned, he'd have hidden her body deep in the forest, or elsewhere.

And he obviously didn't want to move her body, because the 2 vehicles that came along while the van was parked up scared him off and he was afraid he'd be witnessed.

It does not make sense, reminds me of the Lori Vallow case, comments were they could drive 20 miles and dispose of the bodies in the Idaho wilderness where it would be highly unlikely they would be found yet they buried them in the backyard. I don’t think we can apply reason to many of these cases, the perps brains don’t work that way.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I had actually thought the FBI was directing this search. So that makes a big difference, that they’re not. And that they stated they do NOT believe he’s in the swamp.

Perhaps they are just looking for some stashed evidence in the swamp. The FBI is on a totally different path to find Brian!

 

[winterland121072]

As MassGuy said last week:

"There is a pattern here.

Brian's parents never report Gabby missing, despite her van being parked outside their house for days and days.

They know Brian and Gabby left together, and should be returning together.

A desperate family reaches out to them, and they callously ignore those messages.

Brian disappears, and they delay reporting his disappearance for a couple days.

They refuse to speak to law enforcement, while a frantic search is taking place across the country.

Gabby's family continues to make gut wrenching pleas for the Laundrie family to do the right thing, and they are met with tone deaf remarks from the Laundrie's attorney, and silence from the Laundrie family.

I see no innocent explanation here."

Great points. So BL shows up September 1 at his parents house. He tells them what happened. They retain attorney. Attorney tells them with no body there can be no conviction. Attorney tells them to stay quiet and say nothing. Family clandestinely sends him to undisclosed location. Family throws search off by suggesting he went to nature preserve.

It certainly is a possibility. The one point I have trouble fitting in this logical scenario is BL. He just seems like a young, unsophisticated idiot to me more than a cunning psychopath.

The family also does not have a lot of wealth (or so it appears). But they are adults and if they sent him into hiding, they know it can't last forever. BL will eventually be located. They can't fund an entire life for him in hiding.

Who knows...

 

[Quill]

The statement i read said $1k or more. I wonder if BL got that truck bed camper with Gabby's money? Then stuff to hide himself somewhere

Great point. I can't imagine that he spent all of that on gas and road food. I also wonder just how much more over the $1k? It definitely said $1k + .

 

[dlerrahlk1130]

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Friend Says He 'Didn't See a Dark Side' to Brian Laundrie Before Road Trip: 'Normal Guy'

it’s starting to come out

 

[Caring4Many]

I was just about to post the same thing. The FBI thinks he's NOT there...hmm.
Maybe Le is just seeking a phone or dropped/planted evidence.

"He also said that he doesn't believe the FBI expects to find Laundrie in the swamp and noted that the bureau likely recovered location data from the Laundries’ Ford Mustang and is probably monitoring friends and relatives who could potentially aid him on the run."

Gabby Petito case: Where could Brian Laundrie be 10 days after slipping away?

I sure hope they’re prepared for what’s next. Hiding him will only lead to being added to the America (the worlds) most hated people list. JMO of course but I can’t imagine anyone hiding him and thinking that they’ll come out of this and not suffer repercussions.

 

[blueberryjam]

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This isn't a movie

At the time of the camping trip he was not wanted for a crime, he was free to move about, travel, do whatever he wanted. He could go to Mexico, he could have flown to Canada. Why this elaborate, unnecessary rouse? People talking about parents influx of cash from real estate purchases. OK, just buy him a ticket to a non extradition country and give him cash, tick off the Covid checklist requirements. Fly out freely. These elaborate stories of camping trips and dropping him off in locations so he can hike to the border? Just drive him to the border. Also, he left his mustang at the reserve as a distraction? Just drive to the border, dump it there. I think we are overestimating this family and forgetting his status at the time he went missing did not hinder his movement.

And if the parents went and did this unnecessary and elaborate plan. Im not confident a seemingly normal family would be able to pull that off without leaving evidence of their actions. The FBI are confident in their assertions he went to the reserve. It is very hard to orchestrate an escape without leaving breadcrumbs like google searches, withdrawals of cash, purchasing of supplies, evading traffic cams, evading store cams, purchasing everything with cash. It just seems like we are giving these parents are bit more credit than I think they deserve. They are not masterminds. This is evident in him driving home to Florida and not straight to Mexico before any one was even suspicious. And them hiring a real estate attorney.

 

[SouthAussie]

I was just about to post the same thing. The FBI thinks he's NOT there...hmm.
Maybe Le is just seeking a phone or dropped/planted evidence.

"He also said that he doesn't believe the FBI expects to find Laundrie in the swamp and noted that the bureau likely recovered location data from the Laundries’ Ford Mustang and is probably monitoring friends and relatives who could potentially aid him on the run."

Gabby Petito case: Where could Brian Laundrie be 10 days after slipping away?

I think if we re-read that, we will see that Retired Miami-Dade Homicide detective, Pat Diaz, thinks that the FBI don't think BL's there. Not that the FBI said they don't think he is there.

 

[JuliaGoolia]

Is it at all possible that the theft is because the card is also linked to GP parents?
Sorry if this was mentioned already JMO

 

[SuperTmo]

wouldn't the phone batteries be dead by now? I suppose there could be a burner phone pinging...just keep putting in new batteries????? jmo

You can buy really good portable battery packs to charge your phone with. Plug it in to one of these and just let it sit being unused and I’m sure it would last a week or two. I have a few Anker power core power banks that I bought in 2017 for using during power failures. I used them fairly heavily with my last phone because it was so old but I was too cheap to replace it and they will charge my completely dead phone 3x before running out of power. So if I plugged a phone into it, especially one with a better battery than my old one had, I’m sure it could run for a week or two with no problem. If there is a phone pinging in that swamp, it’s probably set up with a power pack and is just hidden somewhere it can be dry, operating as a diversion. BL isn’t in there. Maybe his last phone is and his parents are calling it every now and then to 1) make it look like they are worried and 2) to keep it sending signals.

 

[x_files]

That's a great time line. I still think it's possible she took a couple of days to die. Like hit her head during an argument, had bad head wound, was unconscious, maybe he thought she'd recover but instead she eventually died, and that's when he left because he really didn't know what else to do. She was probably dying in the van the whole time he was hiking around, trying to decide what to do. She finally died on the 29th and that's when he moved her, and then left. That would still be murder.

All speculation.

Let's hope he's found today or very soon.

Interesting theory up to the point she might have died in the van. K9 would have detected it through scent. Dying, decomposing.

 

[SkidRogue]

I'm still interested in knowing why the back of their van was so trashed during their traffic stop. Might be normal for things to fall/move around given the terrain/the way they were driving? Perhaps thats how it always looks when they stop and they have to put everything in it's place once they've settled...

Since they sat up camp outdoors and slept in a tent, it might have just been more of a messy closet than an additional living space.